BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

cruizer101 · 19-10-2020 03:17PM

aFlabbyPanda wrote: »

I totally forgot to take them, will get them done today and up on DD.

See they are up now, looks well, bit of inevitable wear/staining on driver seat bolster but very hard not to have any on light colored leather. Shame your so far away from me.

tinofapples wrote: »

I don't think he/she is highlighting one of the best features of that model, the front ;-)

Definitely, great looking cars from the front. Obviously an Alfa fan though looks like a Giulietta in the drive also.

26000 Elephants · 19-10-2020 03:23PM

They've either replaced it with a giulietta or it's a second car. Obviously have good alfa experience, a good sign.

It's strongly priced for the current market - its high enough miles, old tax and pretty basic interior. Worth a haggle, though.

Interslice · 19-10-2020 03:30PM

tinofapples wrote: »

I don't think he/she is highlighting one of the best features of that model, the front ;-)

Yolk probably won't start to reverse it back :pac:

TigerTim · 19-10-2020 06:11PM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/yaris-aygo-nct-oct-2021-160-k-miles-1-owner-car-/26168690

1 owner Aygo with 12 months NCT, €999

Seemingly no advisories on test. Bargain if it checks out okay

I'm getting old. Can't believe the Aygo is around that long.

T.

2011abc · 19-10-2020 07:12PM

TigerTim wrote: »

I'm getting old. Can't believe the Aygo is around that long.

T.

While the Panda SEEMS less modern its a better car in nearly every respect .Hard to imagine any manufacturer could ever beat the Aygo's penny pinching in having only one hanging string to support parcel shelf !(And the lack of lower hatchback-glass only- makes akward loads like washing machines unfeasible .)

ohnonotgmail · 19-10-2020 07:19PM

2011abc wrote: »

While the Panda SEEMS less modern its a better car in nearly every respect .Hard to imagine any manufacturer could ever beat the Aygo's penny pinching in having only one hanging string to support parcel shelf !(And the lack of lower hatchback-glass only- makes akward loads like washing machines unfeasible .)

for the Tesla S they didnt even bother to include 1 string.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 19-10-2020 07:23PM

That aygo looks like a bargain but have you ever driven one? It’s like a Flinstones car.

punisher5112 · 19-10-2020 07:25PM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

That aygo looks like a bargain but have you ever driven one? It’s like a Flinstones car.

Yee would all laugh if you seen me in it... Did drive many years ago, wouldn't be something I could stock at.

2011abc · 19-10-2020 07:49PM

Only new car I ever bought ...52 mpg average (best ever 54 and I drive like the proverbial nun and never in urban areas),nowhere near book figures.Nice three cylinder thrum ,but sadly lacking rev counter .Not as much fun to thrash as Panda which does same mpg .Both cars capable of high miles if maintained .Many Aygos had free clutch upgrade under warranty

punisher5112 · 19-10-2020 07:50PM

2011abc wrote: »

Only new car I ever bought ...52 mpg average (best ever 54 and I drive like the proverbial nun and never in urban areas),nowhere near book figures.Nice three cylinder thrum ,but sadly lacking rev counter .Not as much fun to thrash as Panda which does same mpg .Both cars capable of high miles if maintained .Many Aygos had free clutch upgrade under warranty

3 cylinder and nice sounds don't go together at all..... Like nails on a black board.

Toyotafanboi · 19-10-2020 08:25PM

I think there's a certain enjoyment in the sound of trashing a 3 cylinder!

colm_mcm · 20-10-2020 09:10AM

The Aygo is great craic because it’s just an unrefined little go kart. Pops and bangs off the exhaust.

Same engine in the Yaris or iQ is unacceptable.

The turbocharged 1.0 3 cylinder Kia/Hyundai engine has a lovely exhaust note.

CoBo55 · 20-10-2020 11:29AM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

I think there's a certain enjoyment in the sound of trashing a 3 cylinder!

Especially if it goes bang and dies with a cloud of white smoke...

Interslice · 20-10-2020 08:35PM

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/saab-93-2-0t-sport-fsh-tax-nct-low-km/26218431

There is a sale on in longford across the range.

I know duke posted to this a few weeks ago for sale at 999 at a dealership in dublin so they might have got it for 800 with a haggle.

kalkat2002 · 21-10-2020 04:58AM

2008 9.3 diesel high miles

1200 eur

http://www.adverts.ie/21892662

kalkat2002 · 21-10-2020 05:02AM

2008 ford mondeo 1.6 petrol

Long tax & nct

1350 eur

http://www.adverts.ie/21889768

Rows Grower · 21-10-2020 09:00AM

Honda Civic's are the kings of bangernomics...

https://www.independent.ie/life/43-owners-and-still-going-strong-honda-civics-astonishing-tally-39647566.html

Duke O Smiley · 21-10-2020 09:29AM

Rows Grower wrote: »

Honda Civic's are the kings of bangernomics...

https://www.independent.ie/life/43-owners-and-still-going-strong-honda-civics-astonishing-tally-39647566.html

Motorcheck or Cartell (or one of those sites) posted on Twitter not too long ago that there is a Nissan Sunny out there with 75 owners.

Funnily enough, of the four 26 owner cars in that link, one is a black 2003 X5 which I had about two weeks ago..

Dravokivich · 21-10-2020 10:18AM

Would it have been owners or people changing owners to dodge tax?

bazz26 · 21-10-2020 11:12AM

I'd say a lot of that is to avoid tax arrears especially on cars on high motor tax rates. People "selling" their car to their dog or goldfish and "buying" it back a week later.

Idbatterim · 21-10-2020 11:16AM

bazz26 wrote: »

I'd say a lot of that is to avoid tax arrears especially on cars on high motor tax rates. People "selling" their car to their dog or goldfish and "buying" it back a week later.

True, wouldnt be a need for it, if the rates on many cars, werent so obscene. You can argue you know what you are getting before you buy with the tax though... the old system was convenient but ridiculous, drive a few months, go into garda station " oh my car was off the road" ...

bazz26 · 21-10-2020 11:25AM

There are always going to be people out there that want to avoid paying tax even if it were on the cheapest rate. I remember from another thread on here there was a 4 or 5 year old Golf R for sale that had something like 10 owners on it. The tax on that was only €570 per year and tax is the hardly the most expensive ownership cost on a Golf R.

punisher5112 · 21-10-2020 12:12PM

bazz26 wrote: »

There are always going to be people out there that want to avoid paying tax even if it were on the cheapest rate. I remember from another thread on here there was a 4 or 5 year old Golf R for sale that had something like 10 owners on it. The tax on that was only €570 per year and tax is the hardly the most expensive ownership cost on a Golf R.

Stick it to the gubernment

Idbatterim · 21-10-2020 12:15PM

bazz26 wrote: »

There are always going to be people out there that want to avoid paying tax even if it were on the cheapest rate. I remember from another thread on here there was a 4 or 5 year old Golf R for sale that had something like 10 owners on it. The tax on that was only €570 per year and tax is the hardly the most expensive ownership cost on a Golf R.

yeah, madness doing it on E570, double that or more, is where I get why some people do it...

Sam Russell · 21-10-2020 02:19PM

bazz26 wrote: »

There are always going to be people out there that want to avoid paying tax even if it were on the cheapest rate. I remember from another thread on here there was a 4 or 5 year old Golf R for sale that had something like 10 owners on it. The tax on that was only €570 per year and tax is the hardly the most expensive ownership cost on a Golf R.

It would be so easy to defeat that practice - just make it that transfer of ownership is only possible if the vehicle is taxed up to date. Also, vehicle cannot be declared off the road if the tax is out, unless the vehicle is currently registered as off the road.

Either taxing vehicle with motor tax is lawfully valid or it is not - but it should not be considered OK for people to evade the tax. Collecting it from people when they insure it might be a better idea - the vehicle must be insured.

Alternatively include third party insurance with the motor tax.

More enforcement is required.

punisher5112 · 21-10-2020 03:54PM

Sam Russell wrote: »

It would be so easy to defeat that practice - just make it that transfer of ownership is only possible if the vehicle is taxed up to date. Also, vehicle cannot be declared off the road if the tax is out, unless the vehicle is currently registered as off the road.

Either taxing vehicle with motor tax is lawfully valid or it is not - but it should not be considered OK for people to evade the tax. Collecting it from people when they insure it might be a better idea - the vehicle must be insured.

Alternatively include third party insurance with the motor tax.

More enforcement is required.

Doesn't happen like it use too to be honest, I got 6 months out of a UK import, then a few months here and their on 1.9 or 2.0 petrol and Diesel, never really kept cars long anyway.

Top Dog · 21-10-2020 05:01PM

bazz26 wrote: »

There are always going to be people out there that want to avoid paying tax even if it were on the cheapest rate. I remember from another thread on here there was a 4 or 5 year old Golf R for sale that had something like 10 owners on it. The tax on that was only €570 per year and tax is the hardly the most expensive ownership cost on a Golf R.

To be fair, in a case like that people were probably moving it on due to unwanted attention and the fear of it being stolen. Just look at boardsie JoeA3 who got rid of his for that reason.

CoBo55 · 21-10-2020 05:04PM

Sam Russell wrote: »

It would be so easy to defeat that practice - just make it that transfer of ownership is only possible if the vehicle is taxed up to date. Also, vehicle cannot be declared off the road if the tax is out, unless the vehicle is currently registered as off the road.

Either taxing vehicle with motor tax is lawfully valid or it is not - but it should not be considered OK for people to evade the tax. Collecting it from people when they insure it might be a better idea - the vehicle must be insured.

Alternatively include third party insurance with the motor tax.

More enforcement is required.

You can't declare a vehicle off road if the tax is already expired. Vehicle must be insured at the time of taxing too.

johndaman66 · 21-10-2020 05:08PM

bazz26 wrote: »

There are always going to be people out there that want to avoid paying tax even if it were on the cheapest rate. I remember from another thread on here there was a 4 or 5 year old Golf R for sale that had something like 10 owners on it. The tax on that was only €570 per year and tax is the hardly the most expensive ownership cost on a Golf R.

I remember that alright. Opened the ad with the line on why there were so many owners on the car. Irrespective of whether or not you agreed with his sentiment it struck me as a very poor way to kick off an ad, bad start and all that. He may have being better off to stick the comment in further down the ad.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-laguna-1-5d/26289977
Laguna 1.5 diesel
295k KM
NCT 07/21
Looks tidy.
Asking €1,650.

punisher5112 · 21-10-2020 07:04PM

CoBo55 wrote: »

You can't declare a vehicle off road if the tax is already expired. Vehicle must be insured at the time of taxing too.

1st part correct but 2nd part not.

Online you can add any policy or non existent one....

BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

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