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Huawei banned in US

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    #152
    Anteayer
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    my3cents wrote: »
    So whats to say that Huawei don't come out with their own OS that in time will come to rival Google?

    They may well do but it's unlikely to rival Android outside China. It's VERY hard to crack a market that this large and established with a huge ecosystem.


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    #153
    mrcheez
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    zep wrote: »
    So Amazon offered a refund base on the News? I've always had high praise for their customer service but I'm even surprised by this. Fair play Amazon.

    So I contacted Amazon chat today and they said I have 1 year from purchase date (which was last December 2018) to return my Huawei Watch 2 for a full refund if it no longer works due to Google's changes.

    Nice!


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    #154
    Sir Oxman
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    rolion wrote: »
    Any ideea what OSes will work great on the phones,anyone have tried them and feedback ,please !? Any good sites where i can get more literature,thanks.
    Read that Huawei has/had/have in plan their own operating system,any ideea what and where can we "taste" it ?


    Besides ubuntu touch which I know nothing about and it needs certain devices, there are custom Android roms for loads of devices



    Start here and search for your device:
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/


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    #155
    Hurrache
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    Anteayer wrote: »
    They may well do but it's unlikely to rival Android outside China. It's VERY hard to crack a market that this large and established with a huge ecosystem.

    Difference here is that Huawei are already well established and have a huge potential installation base already in place.
    mrcheez wrote: »
    So I contacted Amazon chat today and they said I have 1 year from purchase date (which was last December 2018) to return my Huawei Watch 2 for a full refund if it no longer works due to Google's changes.

    Nice!

    I wonder how many others will follow suit, I'm looking at you Argos.


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    #156
    The high horse brigade
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    Hurrache wrote: »
    Difference here is that Huawei are already well established and have a huge potential installation base already in place.

    Yes, people who are all already tied into the Google eco system


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    #157
    Hurrache
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    The high horse brigade wrote: »
    Yes, people who are all already tied into the Google eco system

    Surprisingly many aren't, there's a lot who won't care what OS they have if their phone works and has their apps.

    Now I'm fully integrated and won't be switching as I like Android.


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    #158
    Anteayer
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    They're effectively only another Android OEM. If they don't run Android, nobody will pay much attention to them. Launching a new OS is extremely challenging.


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    #159
    The high horse brigade
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    Hurrache wrote: »
    Surprisingly many aren't, there's a lot who won't care what OS they have if their phone works and has their apps.

    Now I'm fully integrated and won't be switching as I like Android.

    You talking about iPhone users?

    Most of the Android users who claim they aren't are completely integrated and they don't realise it. Like my Mam and Dad. They would be lost now if they lost Google services like Gmail, YouTube, Chrome and maps


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    #160
    mgbgt1978
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    The high horse brigade wrote: »
    There's bigger implications after that Huawei ban. All the Eir exchanges and cabinets use Huawei gear with Broadcom chips. Broadcom are US so no more firmware updates. Eir are not alone, Siro also use Huawei gear as do BT in the UK and Dutch and German telecoms also
    Seems to only concern any Google software on a Huawei device. Basically only relates to Android Phones...............so far.


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    #161
    The high horse brigade
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    mgbgt1978 wrote: »
    Seems to only concern any Google software on a Huawei device. Basically only relates to Android Phones...............so far.

    Until Broadcom announce they have to cut ties. And Microsoft, and Intel....


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    #162
    SleetAndSnow
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    The high horse brigade wrote: »
    Until Broadcom announce they have to cut ties

    They already have


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    #163
    Hurrache
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    The high horse brigade wrote: »
    You talking about iPhone users?

    Most of the Android users who claim they aren't are completely integrated and they don't realise it. Like my Mam and Dad. They would be lost now if they lost Google services like Gmail, YouTube, Chrome and maps

    No, the people who use the very basic features and don't fully buy into the ecosystem, those who don't even know their photos can be synced to their Google account, if they had one, that sort of thing.


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    #164
    Suckit
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    I wonder will a load of Huawei/Honor phones start appearing in warehouse deals. If they do, will surely be cheaper allowing for a lot of tinkering to try out other OS's.
    I've never seen Huawei mentioned in Sailfish blogs though. The newest version was released around 2 weeks ago, but they haven't made any real movement in a long time. Their last big announcement was that they won the contract for the Russian Government as the alternative to Android or iOS.
    Although with the bootloader locked....


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    #165
    CPTM
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    Can Google not just sell through another company registered in Ireland. I know they own companies all over the world.

    Why don't they just create an Irish company, give the software to them for free, and allow them to work with Huawei? I mean for all consumers outside the states.


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    #166
    youcancallmeal
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    CPTM wrote: »
    Can Google not just sell through another company registered in Ireland. I know they own companies all over the world.

    Why don't they just create an Irish company, give the software to them for free, and allow them to work with Huawei? I mean for all consumers outside the states.

    They might setup Google EU or Google Rest of the World to get around this but I think probably not because they'll be back to square one if another government does the same as the US. It's going to be very interesting to see how this all plays out. I've a feeling this is going to be a turning point for smart phones, like possibly the end of ios vs android and a point of divergence.


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    #167
    The high horse brigade
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    Hurrache wrote: »
    No, the people who use the very basic features and don't fully buy into the ecosystem, those who don't even know their photos can be synced to their Google account, if they had one, that sort of thing.

    You mean the people who don't use apps and just use it as a phone? That's hardly the market they should aim for? Launching their own OS is guaranteed to fail


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    #168
    Ken.
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    This has probably been asked and answered. On android phones there is a pile of crap I don't want. Maps,youtube,drive etc. I never use them but can't get rid of them. Can I now get rid of them?. I have a Huawei, Its my 3rd one and will be upgrading shortly with another one.


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    #169
    OldMrBrennan83
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    Nosnon wrote: »
    This has probably been asked and answered. On android phones there is a pile of crap I don't want. Maps,youtube,drive etc. I never use them but can't get rid of them. Can I now get rid of them?. I have a Huawei, Its my 3rd one and will be upgrading shortly with another one.

    Go to the app settings and disable them, it's quite easy. Though if you're using anything other than Google Maps then you're making a statement rather than them being "crap you don't want".


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    #170
    CPTM
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    Nosnon wrote: »
    This has probably been asked and answered. On android phones there is a pile of crap I don't want. Maps,youtube,drive etc. I never use them but can't get rid of them. Can I now get rid of them?. I have a Huawei, Its my 3rd one and will be upgrading shortly with another one.

    You don't use maps? How on earth do you cope?

    Yours sincerely,
    The millennials.


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    #171
    Ken.
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    OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »
    Go to the app settings and disable them, it's quite easy. Though if you're using anything other than Google Maps then you're making a statement rather than them being "crap you don't want".
    I have them disabled but they still take up space.
    CPTM wrote: »
    You don't use maps? How on earth do you cope?

    Yours sincerely,
    The millennials.

    TomTom app that's linked to my satnav.


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    #172
    The high horse brigade
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    Nosnon wrote: »
    This has probably been asked and answered. On android phones there is a pile of crap I don't want. Maps,youtube,drive etc. I never use them but can't get rid of them. Can I now get rid of them?. I have a Huawei, Its my 3rd one and will be upgrading shortly with another one.

    You can install a custom ROM without Google apps. Check out XDA for the model of your phone and be prepared to get your hands dirty


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    #173
    Suckit
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    Nosnon wrote: »
    This has probably been asked and answered. On android phones there is a pile of crap I don't want. Maps,youtube,drive etc. I never use them but can't get rid of them. Can I now get rid of them?. I have a Huawei, Its my 3rd one and will be upgrading shortly with another one.


    You could root it and then unistall the apps you don't want/need.
    https://www.xda-developers.com/magisk-canary-root-huawei-honor-devices-emui-9/
    https://huaweiadvices.com/root-huawei-emui-phones-magisk-download/


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    #174
    Ken.
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    The high horse brigade wrote: »
    You can install a custom ROM without Google apps. Check out XDA for the model of your phone and be prepared to get your hands dirty

    You bastard:D. I've to be up at 4.30am. Was going to go to bed soon. That's gone out the window now.


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    #175
    Suckit
    Registered Users Posts: 11,215 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    ^^^^^^ Depending on the model of the phone, you may need to unlock the bootloader.

    ***

    The co-founder of QWANT reckons that Google has misinterpreted Trumps wording, and that they have overreacted.

    Also, https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-huawei-tech-usa-germany-ministry/berlin-were-examining-impact-of-u-s-sanctions-against-huawei-on-german-firms-idUKKCN1SQ0YD


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    #176
    rolion
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    Suckit wrote: »
    ^^^^^^ Depending on the model of the phone, you may need to unlock the bootloader.

    ***

    The co-founder of QWANT reckons that Google has misinterpreted Trumps wording, and that they have overreacted.

    Also, https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-huawei-tech-usa-germany-ministry/berlin-were-examining-impact-of-u-s-sanctions-against-huawei-on-german-firms-idUKKCN1SQ0YD

    I was wondering whats next but... trains !? Never tought that will be next on the banning list...
    more HERE


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    #177
    EmptyTree
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    CPTM wrote: »
    Can Google not just sell through another company registered in Ireland. I know they own companies all over the world.

    Why don't they just create an Irish company, give the software to them for free, and allow them to work with Huawei? I mean for all consumers outside the states.
    youcancallmeal wrote: »
    They might setup Google EU or Google Rest of the World to get around this but I think probably not because they'll be back to square one if another government does the same as the US. It's going to be very interesting to see how this all plays out. I've a feeling this is going to be a turning point for smart phones, like possibly the end of ios vs android and a point of divergence.
    I was thinking about this earlier, I wonder will the European Competition Commission have anything to say on this.


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    #178
    OldMrBrennan83
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    Panic over, all sorted for now.

    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1SQ27T


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    #179
    lsjmhar
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    Ubuntu touch has a navigation tool - uNav. No tracking and works brilliantly. I am using it four years and it has never failed me. U can leave Google if u want but u need to be willing to let go of instagram and whatsapp.


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    #180
    OldMrBrennan83
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    lsjmhar wrote: »
    Ubuntu touch has a navigation tool - uNav. No tracking and works brilliantly. I am using it four years and it has never failed me. U can leave Google if u want but u need to be willing to let go of instagram and whatsapp.

    Facebook own Instagram and WhatsApp. The former is available through any browser, both are available on other operating systems. WhatsApp is the most popular messaging service around and the one people actually use, so it would be stupidity to "let go" of that. Is it better to have a Signal account and message nobody?

    I don't care about tracking, in fact it's a massive convenience for me, and I can guarantee you 'unav' does not work as well as Google maps unless it's just a ripped off version of it for the tinfoil hat people. If it's standalone then it won't have even a pinch of the user data input to traffic info as Google Maps does.


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    #181
    EmptyTree
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    OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »
    Panic over, all sorted for now.
    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1SQ27T
    Hopefully, but a precedent has now been set (whether or not Huawei are blocked from Google services). Be interesting to see how this shapes the future of smartphone OS.

    My current phone is an honor - absolutely superb phone. I was really looking forward to my next phone being Huawei. Hopefully they're let back into the fold.


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