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Saoradh dissident republican march in Dublin

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  • Registered Users Posts: 244 ✭✭Pythagorean


    If this vermin are allowed to proliferate, then it is only a matter of time before there is another Omagh bomb.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    I condemn all attacks.

    Has that stopped them?

    You never condemned attacks on the ruc for example.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,906 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    janfebmar wrote: »
    You never condemned attacks on the ruc for example.

    The RUC were disgraced and had to be re-structured because they were not partisan.

    I am not here to be grilled by you either.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,460 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    banning them would empower them. by allowing them to march they are exposed.

    True. The Gardaí do have pretty good record in keeping tabs on these groups as it is. Unfortunately there is nothing new about these marches. If you go down O'Connell Street on a Saturday afternoon you'll often find these groups present. The Connolly Memorial at North Dock is another spot where these eejits like to hang out.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,993 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    I get that they have a right to assemble, march etc. but do they have a right to contravene traffic law?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,282 ✭✭✭✭elperello




  • Registered Users Posts: 15,870 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Let them at it, but ban sunglasses and other means of avoiding identification together with a ban on military type clothing, ie berets, combat gear and so on.

    I suppose it might not matter much since they are mostly from NI anyway and who would know them.

    Bet they wouldn't march in Derry or anywhere else now. Just shows you how they operate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭h2005


    Have any of them been identified by the papers? Name and shame them


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,186 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Could the KKK have a march tomorrow down O'Connell Street? I got the impression from RTE News at 9 today that pretty much anyone could hold a march without the need to notify anyone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    I'm torn on this. Whilst I can't understand why more people didn't stand up to them in the streets of Dublin and Cork at the same time maybe it's better they're just ignored.

    If they were attacked it would just feed their agenda.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    The RUC were disgraced .

    In your eyes. Most of the many thousands acted lawfully and properly. Yet you condoned attacks on them / people sniping and shooting at them.
    The psni were disgraced In the eyes of the lads who shot at them the other night..to them they were all "crown forces".
    You both condoned attacks on the police, no difference.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,906 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    janfebmar wrote: »
    In your eyes. Most of the many thousands acted lawfully and properly. Yet you condoned attacks on them / people sniping and shooting at them.
    The psni were disgraced In the eyes of the lads who shot at them the other night..to them they were all "crown forces".
    You both condoned attacks on the police, no difference.

    You waste your time finding a post were I condoned violence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,194 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    The RUC were disgraced and had to be re-structured because they were not partisan.

    I am not here to be grilled by you either.


    So you didn't condemn them.

    What if that young journalist had survived and some PSNI officer had been killed? I am certain that we wouldn't have seen the same level of condemnation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    You waste your time finding a post were I condoned violence.

    You did not call attacks on the police violence, you called that war. And you condoned it. Go back and look at your posts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,906 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    janfebmar wrote: »
    You did not call attacks on the police violence, you called that war. And you condoned it. Go back and look at your posts.

    I called it a conflict/war. And I never condoned violence..ever. I understand why it happens, and why it will continue to happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,281 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    janfebmar wrote: »
    In your eyes. Most of the many thousands acted lawfully and properly. Yet you condoned attacks on them / people sniping and shooting at them.
    The psni were disgraced In the eyes of the lads who shot at them the other night..to them they were all "crown forces".
    You both condoned attacks on the police, no difference.

    ?

    They had to be disbanded. Rarely something that happens to organisations in good standing or held in high regard.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,870 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    There is an undercurrent of support for those who wish to eliminate the UK from any involvement in NI, such as it is. That will not change anytime soon.

    In the meantime, we have a polarised system now. SF no seats in Westminster, DUP, lotsa seats there. Middle ground have no chance.

    Oh, and no Assembly either. WTF are they at?

    NI is a tad toxic, no, scratch that it IS toxic.

    And as long as the Republic is not drawn into the shenanigans, let them at it for now.

    But something has to give soon surely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,870 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I called it a conflict/war. And I never condoned violence..ever. I understand why it happens, and why it will continue to happen.

    When you are explaining you are losing my friend ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    lawred2 wrote: »
    ?

    They had to be disbanded.
    They were renamed. Same as Telecom Eireann became Eircom.
    It was the terrorists who lost their weapons / were disbanded.

    .


  • Registered Users Posts: 66,906 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    When you are explaining you are losing my friend ;)

    If you are Irish, you always lose to Janfebmar. I have learned to live with it. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    I called it a conflict/war. And I never condoned violence..ever.

    But you condoned "the war" against the crown forces. Same as the lads the other night.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    I think there’s a sinister undercurrent of support for these bastards from angry malcontents who advocate for a socialist republic brought about by violent revolution. The whole, ‘oh it’s terrible, but....’


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    If you are Irish, you always lose to Janfebmar. I have learned to live with it. :D

    I am am Irish myself and proud of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,287 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Maybe time to make it offence to impersonate a member of the defence forces.

    I thought wearing current issue DF gear was illegal. Gear from other armed forces wouldn't be.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,870 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    So the consensus is that murder by dissidents is murder?

    Just like any murder in society? There should be no other way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 861 ✭✭✭Sean.3516


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    So less than 48 hours after the senseless shooting dead of journalist Lyra McKee in Derry during rioting, the dissident republican group Saoradh brazenly marched through Dublin city centre yesterday.

    I consider this march to be a direct affront to democracy in this country and something sinister and very unwelcome.

    An insult to Lyra McKee and her partner and family and a direct challenge to our State and society.

    Should they even have been allowed march?

    As strongly as I believe that this Saoradh crowd are nothing but incel marxist wannabe revolutionary knobs with nothing better to do playing soldiers, if they fill out the right forms and follow the law around organizing marches in the capital then I believe they have every right to do it.

    But yea, I have serious concerns about all this “ooh ah up the ra” infantile gob****ery becoming more and more common again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,287 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Hedgelayer wrote: »
    Another shower of sjws dressed up as soldiers.

    Probably a bunch of vegan sympathisers, you'd see the way they dress like plants.

    Worthless wasters, nobody gives a **** about their cause, bunch of tossers

    Are we just naming things we don't like now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    The sad thing is that the vast majority of saoradh **** werent even born during the troubles and really haven’t a clue what they represent or want. They’re silly little ****tards who think violence and terrorism are cool and believe wearing military uniform gives them some form of power. But in reality they’re simply unemployed (and probably unemployable) arseholes from Derry and Strabane who have zero public support and sadly the media publishing their stupid little march only empowers them to do it again. What a sad pathetic bunch of ****.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,194 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    If you are Irish, you always lose to Janfebmar. I have learned to live with it. :D


    The problem is that your definition of Irishness is too restrictive.

    Unless someone is rabidly in favour of a United Ireland, then they are not Irish in your opinion. That is a hangover of reductionist SF thinking.

    Someone like me, who is a proud GAA follower and Irish music lover, but who doesn't believe in immediate Irish unity and is apathetic about the Irish language is somehow less of an Irishman. God knows what you think of the recently naturalised.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    When you are explaining you are losing my friend ;)

    When you keep making things up it forces people to explain. Interesting tactics but not really getting you further than quips like this.


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