Extinction Rebellion Ireland

Calhoun

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Go on so what research have you carried out that makes you believe the reintroduction of wolves would not have a determential effect on wildlife and livestock. Bearing in mind wolves have no existed in the wilds of this country in nearly 25O years.
Now here's your chance to prove you are not an idiot parroting what you heard that fool E Ryan say.
Failing to answer confirms you yourself are the spoofer.

Ignored like any serious challenge or questions to back up some of the stuff being said.

Took me about 2 days to figure out that being an environmentalist all you have to do is take your kids out for a day at the zoo to see the future heroes protest, watch David Attenborough, go for nature walks and holiday at home.

end of the road

SafeSurfer wrote: »

It’s basically middle class virtue signalling while maintaining lifestyles that the majority on the planet can only dream of.

nope it's a protest around climate change and environmental issues.



a protest which has people from all walks of life involved.

Micky 32

end of the road wrote: »

nope it's a protest around climate change and environmental issues.



a protest which has people from all walks of life involved.

Lol , do you not think after 3 am you should be in bed resting , lights and wifi, smartphone turned off? If you were asleep you wouldn’t be using energy and you’ll be reducing your carbon footprint. ;-)

end of the road

Micky 32 wrote: »

Lol , do you not think after 3 am you should be in bed resting , lights and wifi, smartphone turned off? If you were asleep you wouldn’t be using energy and you’ll be reducing your carbon footprint. ;-)

no as my footprint is small anyway.
and i go to bed when i decide to go.

Montage of Feck

Micky 32 wrote: »

When they realise they are not getting what they want they will eventually resort to yellow vest tactics, wait until you see.

Other than taxing the working class what exactly do they want?

Thelonious Monk

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

So you think it's an acceptable position for us in the developed West to say to underdeveloped countries 'soz guys but because of climate change blah blah ye guys can't have the lifestyle that we enjoy. Do you see a credibility problem here?

No i dont think we can say that. But i dont think we can live the way we do either, its not sustainable. Hopefully we can move towards a cleaner way of living that isnt so obsessed with consumption worldwide and put looking after the earth to the fore in government policies. It sounds like a pipe dream but i cant think how else the planet can be healthy.

Thelonious Monk

cnocbui wrote: »

That reminds me..

Hilarious but Greta doesnt have an EV. Only an idiot would think EVs are anything but a red herring. Private car ownership of any kind is something we need to move away from sooner or later, we cant keep designing how we live around everyone having their own massive steel box.

Thelonious Monk

The Oort Cloud wrote: »

You are talking about pollution. What has that got to do with climate change?. Too many people are getting mixed up between pollution and climate change, do they even understand the differences I wonder. Fair play to you all the same, at least you are doing something to clean-up some polluted areas, but for some odd reason a lot of folk keep talking about cleaning up pollution when their main comments are more associated with climate change - global warming. Both different issues.

As i have already explained twice, pollution and nature are part of the green movement and ER manifesto.

blinding

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Hilarious but Greta doesnt have an EV. Only an idiot would think EVs are anything but a red herring. Private car ownership of any kind is something we need to move away from sooner or later, we cant keep designing how we live around everyone having their own massive steel box.

Should there be enough taxis ( at an affordable price ) to meet every ones needs at all times .

I think some city should try this . No privately owned cars inside say the city limits ( or some suitable border )

Could multiple passing taxis be possible now with todays phones . Much cheaper transport for multiple passenger journeys .

The thing is the governments that are playing the Green Tax Game also want all the money they receive from Private Vehicle Ownership .

Thelonious Monk

blinding wrote: »

Should there be enough taxis ( at an affordable price ) to meet every ones needs at all times .

I think some city should try this . No privately owned cars inside say the city limits ( or some suitable border )

Could multiple passing taxis be possible now with todays phones . Much cheaper transport for multiple passenger journeys .

The thing is the governments that are playing the Green Tax Game also want all the money they receive from Private Vehicle Ownership .

There's a town in canada where the government has subsidised uber for citizens to use as public transport. Sharing schemes are the way forward.

blinding

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

There's a town in canada where the government has subsidised uber for citizens to use as public transport. Sharing schemes are the way forward.

Sounds interesting . Hopefully not just one company , Competition is good .

Galway in Ireland should be doing something like this . Disaster traffic wise .

If self driving cars ever work out then a lot of transport problems could be solved Particularly if owning private cars in a City was prohibitively expensive .

Wanderer78

Thelonious Monk wrote:

There's a town in canada where the government has subsidised uber for citizens to use as public transport. Sharing schemes are the way forward.

blinding wrote:

Sounds interesting . Hopefully not just one company , Competition is good .

Uber tends to be loved by libertarians, while it monoplies pre-existing markets, driving competitors out of the market, and by also generally increasing worker insecurities in that market, we need to be extremely careful how we implement changes moving forward, market competition isn't necessarily always good for society or the environment for that matter

20Cent

cnocbui wrote: »

That reminds me..

How about governments agree that companies cannot avail of child labour and have to pay workers in these countries a living wage. Job done. Make more difference than one person giving up their phone.

Montage of Feck

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

There's a town in canada where the government has subsidised uber for citizens to use as public transport. Sharing schemes are the way forward.

Uber are the epitome of everything that's wrong with the growing consumerist society.

Thelonious Monk

Montage of Feck wrote: »

Uber are the epitome of everything that's wrong with the growing consumerist society.

Yes its basically a pyramid scheme. I was just pointing out a gov subsidised kind of car sharing scheme in one city to show that there are other ways.

Plumbthedepths

Calhoun wrote: »

Ignored like any serious challenge or questions to back up some of the stuff being said.

Took me about 2 days to figure out that being an environmentalist all you have to do is take your kids out for a day at the zoo to see the future heroes protest, watch David Attenborough, go for nature walks and holiday at home.

Tbh I didn't expect an answer to my question as I suspect Beech is nothing but a windup merchant.

blinding

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yes its basically a pyramid scheme. I was just pointing out a gov subsidised kind of car sharing scheme in one city to show that there are other ways.

Hows about the government controlled the technology / computer side of Uber and let licensed operators avail of that technology /computer side .

Uber seem to have too much control of this market . A monopoly .

20Cent

20Cent wrote: »

How about governments agree that companies cannot avail of child labour and have to pay workers in these countries a living wage. Job done. Make more difference than one person giving up their phone.

What a fantastic idea..
Why didn't anyone else think of this?

You should tell people..
I reckon you'd be a shoe in for next years Nobel Peace Prize..

20Cent

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What a fantastic idea..
Why didn't anyone else think of this?

You should tell people..
I reckon you'd be a shoe in for next years Nobel Peace Prize..

Thanks.
I'm sure plenty of people have thought of that. But the political will isn't there to implement such policies. Political will comes from public pressure which is what ER is doing.

Micky 32

end of the road wrote: »

no as my footprint is small anyway.
and i go to bed when i decide to go.

My post was meant for a bit of light heartness but seeing as you mentioned it that your carbon footprint is small it’s still part of a huge footprint. How many people in the world are up late like you and i lights on and on their computers? Adds up to a lot of energy use worldwide

As for the second part of your sentence, exactly!. No one likes to be told what to do when their freedom is threathened. No one will be told when they can and can’t fly or drive especially by ER

20Cent

How about a grant for businesses to buy video conferencing equipment or a tax break for reducing business flights. All types of options available.

Plumbthedepths

20Cent wrote: »

Thanks.
I'm sure plenty of people have thought of that. But the political will isn't there to implement such policies. Political will comes from public pressure which is what ER is doing.

People need governments to help them make an ethical consumer choice?

20Cent

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

People need governments to help them make an ethical consumer choice?

Sure looks like that doesn't it.

Plumbthedepths

20Cent wrote: »

Sure looks like that doesn't it.

Well basically it makes people like these clowns in ER complete hypocrites tbh. Using products that are known to exploit child labour.

cnocbui

20Cent wrote: »

Sure looks like that doesn't it.

In that case, the government should just take everyone's money from them and buy the things they think people should have. People are innately irresponsible and selfish and shouldn't be allowed to act with free will.

Wanderer78

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Well basically it makes people like these clowns in ER complete hypocrites tbh. Using products that are known to exploit child labour.

you ll find all of us are hypocrites at some stage in life, i pride myself in my hypocrisy

Wanderer78

cnocbui wrote: »

In that case, the government should just take everyone's money from them and buy the things they think people should have. People are innately irresponsible and selfish and shouldn't be allowed to act with free will.

free will.....hahaha ffs, no such thing on this planet

Plumbthedepths

Wanderer78 wrote: »

you ll find all of us are hypocrites at some stage in life, i pride myself in my hypocrisy

It's the pretence they are not hypocrites that I find amusing.

Micky 32

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

It's the pretence they are not hypocrites that I find amusing.

And this thread is full of them lol

cnocbui

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Hilarious but Greta doesnt have an EV. Only an idiot would think EVs are anything but a red herring. Private car ownership of any kind is something we need to move away from sooner or later, we cant keep designing how we live around everyone having their own massive steel box.

Good idea. Think I'll go find some companies making saddles and equestrian clothing and pile in to the max. Returns should be epic.