Extinction Rebellion Ireland

end of the road · 11-10-2019 6:37pm

20Cent wrote: »

A video from an obvious grifter convinces you but a whole body of science doesn't. Maybe the scientists should make YouTube channels for incels might get the message across.

tbh the video comes across as being made for giggles at the expence of the people who believe it's contents.
i could be wrong but that is what i got from giving it a watch.

cj maxx · 11-10-2019 6:42pm

lleti wrote: »

I thought you cared about the planet? Why are you fine with massive holes being dug into it?

Holes can be filled back in with the earth that was taken out. Ruin local flora ok , but that can be reestablished in time.
Digging holes has nothing to do with climate change.
Its burning what is there that is the problem

Galwayguy35 · 11-10-2019 6:43pm

_Brian wrote: »

It’s important for people to see how quickly the official spokesperson for ER folds under questioning by someone armed with cold hard facts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO1TTcETyuU&feature=share

Choosing to irritate and obstruct ordinary people going about their lives is wrong. They stopped people on public transport and indeed abused people going to work on bicycles.
This is disruption for the sake of disruption and nothing else.

The alarmist message they are peddling has been proven wrong. Their spokesperson admitted they were just using alarmist numbers and language to get attention. That’s fundamentally the wrong way to get public attention and support. The vast majority of the coverage they have received has been in relation to how unhinges their theory is and how unreasonable they are.

"I'm now joined by Zion Lights", he was some man to keep a straight face while saying that.

She was a typical crusty, when presented with cold hard facts she had no answers.

blinding · 11-10-2019 6:47pm

The Oort Cloud wrote: »

These people are drug addicts, MDMA, LSD, DMT and many other drugs that these fruitcakes are on. They are even stopping cancer patients getting in to hospital for major treatment. They also said that they want all aircraft flights ended by 2025. These people are completely insane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFkN5H4CCY0

Hugely entertaining . Thanks for posting .

Micky 32 · 11-10-2019 6:52pm

Jesus i’m now more scared of these people than climate change!

SEPT 23 1989 · 11-10-2019 6:58pm

Micky 32 wrote: »

Jesus i’m now more scared of these people than climate change!

You should be

I watched one of these headbangers on the C4 news a while back and he said that democracy might have to step aside in order to tackle “climate change”

Dangerous people

mgn · 11-10-2019 7:02pm

Micky 32 wrote: »

Jesus i’m now more scared of these people than climate change!

What about the wolves that fool Ryan what to bring back, it's no wonder people only laugh at them.

end of the road · 11-10-2019 7:09pm

mgn wrote: »

What about the wolves that fool Ryan what to bring back, it's no wonder people only laugh at them.

what about them?
they are irrelevant, they won't be reintroduced to ireland. there is quite likely little support for such a proposal thankfully.

Plumbthedepths · 11-10-2019 7:10pm

20Cent wrote: »

A video from an obvious grifter convinces you but a whole body of science doesn't. Maybe the scientists should make YouTube channels for incels might get the message across.

Incel?
I can safely assume anything you say is not worth taking any notice of.

The Oort Cloud · 11-10-2019 7:16pm

20Cent wrote: »

A video from an obvious grifter convinces you but a whole body of science doesn't. Maybe the scientists should make YouTube channels for incels might get the message across.

What? What are you talking about?. I was talking specifically about those crazy Extinction Rebellion nut-cases on that video. The proof that these people are headbangers is plain and clear to see, science has nothing to do with their insanity. Try to read my post properly next time and not twist my comments around for your own agenda, thank you.

20Cent · 11-10-2019 7:19pm

The Oort Cloud wrote: »

What? What are you talking about?. I was talking specifically about those crazy Extinction Rebellion nut-cases on that video. The proof that these people are headbangers is plain and clear to see, science has nothing to do with their insanity. Try to read my post properly next time and not twist my comments around for your own agenda, thank you.

Didn't watch the video. That fella is a known nutjob. He was/is part of infowars, fake news idiots.

Beechwoodspark · 11-10-2019 7:23pm

20Cent wrote: »

Didn't watch the video. That fella is a known nutjob. He was/is part of infowars, fake news idiots.

Fake news right wing loonies

I honestly am amazed at how naive some boardsies are

mgn · 11-10-2019 7:27pm

end of the road wrote: »

what about them?
they are irrelevant, they won't be reintroduced to ireland. there is quite likely little support for such a proposal thankfully.

It just goes to show you the way the think.

Micky 32 · 11-10-2019 7:28pm

mgn wrote: »

What about the wolves that fool Ryan what to bring back, it's no wonder people only laugh at them.

Oh he’s cute enough, the biggest threat from wolves would be livestock like sheep and lambs , he obviously has it in his head meat farming will be eventually banned.

The Oort Cloud · 11-10-2019 7:29pm

20Cent wrote: »

Didn't watch the video. That fella is a known nutjob. He was/is part of infowars, fake news idiots.

You really don't have a clue of basic common sense do you. :rolleyes:

The same nut-cases were saying and doing the same with 'Global Cooling' in the 1970's. Same fruit-cakes the lot of them. Extinction Rebellion followers are typically uneducated and mostly never worked a day in their live's to clean themselves and at least to wash themselves, complete hypocrites the lot of them. They should be put in prison alone just so they can be forced to have a wash for the disruption they are causing.

Thelonious Monk · 11-10-2019 7:31pm

What's the strange obsession with these people's personal hygiene, of which you all know nothing about? Like seriously it seems like you feel threatened by these people if they're making you that angry. ISIS terrorists don't even face this ire from posters. I know f*ck all about them and haven't watched any of their videos, but the fact they are trying to highlight how we are destroying nature at a very alarming rate makes me glad at least someone is trying, although some of their methods are extreme. The ones here in Dublin aren't causing any harm so fair play to them.

Micky 32 · 11-10-2019 7:32pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

You should be

I watched one of these headbangers on the C4 news a while back and he said that democracy might have to step aside in order to tackle “climate change”

Dangerous people

When they realise they are not getting what they want they will eventually resort to yellow vest tactics, wait until you see.

Beechwoodspark · 11-10-2019 7:39pm

It’s really not about individual carbon footprints

It’s about the system as a a whole.

Plumbthedepths · 11-10-2019 7:40pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Fake news right wing loonies

I honestly am amazed at how naive some boardsies are

Amazing that you call anyone naive when on another thread you said wolves should be reintroduced.

Subcomandante Marcos · 11-10-2019 7:42pm

Checkmate19 wrote: »

Anyway maybe taught these climate scientists are just earning a crust so cant say anything different. Probably get back handers off electric car manufacturers. I think is all nonsense.

Can you let me know which EV manufacturers are giving backhanders? I could do with a new car and a holiday.

Beechwoodspark · 11-10-2019 7:42pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Amazing that you call anyone naive when on another thread you said wolves should be reintroduced.

Very much doubt you have done the level of research that I have done regarding the reintroduction of wolves

99.9% on here are casual spoofers.

20Cent · 11-10-2019 7:43pm

The Oort Cloud wrote: »

You really don't have a clue of basic common sense do you. :rolleyes:

The same nut-cases were saying and doing the same with 'Global Cooling' in the 1970's. Same fruit-cakes the lot of them. Extinction Rebellion followers are typically uneducated and mostly never worked a day in their live's to clean themselves and at least to wash themselves, complete hypocrites the lot of them. They should be put in prison alone just so they can be forced to have a wash for the disruption they are causing.

The vast consensus of scientists are nutjobs, paul watson is smart though.
This is why trump won.

Wanderer78 · 11-10-2019 7:44pm

Subcomandante Marcos wrote:

Can you let me know which EV manufacturers are giving backhanders? I could do with a new car and a holiday.

You can feck off, there's only so much in the kitty, and I'm not giving up any of mine

Beechwoodspark · 11-10-2019 7:46pm

The Oort Cloud wrote: »

These people are drug addicts, MDMA, LSD, DMT and many other drugs that these fruitcakes are on. They are even stopping cancer patients getting in to hospital for major treatment. They also said that they want all aircraft flights ended by 2025.

Just in that video it’s been discredited.

It’s the usual right wing kremlin funded idiot hosting.

Beechwoodspark · 11-10-2019 7:47pm

Just in that video it’s been discredited.

It’s the usual right wing kremlin funded idiot hosting.

Plumbthedepths · 11-10-2019 7:47pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Very much doubt you have done the level of research that I have done regarding the reintroduction of wolves

99.9% on here are casual spoofers.

You wish to see an apex predator reintroduced to a country that is populated by docile sheep and cattle with no natural predator.Whatever research you did must have been restricted to the Disney channel.

Subcomandante Marcos · 11-10-2019 7:48pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

You can feck off, there's only so much in the kitty, and I'm not giving up any of mine

Look buddy, I haven't been making these GIS maps and spending hours trying to make sense of data for nothing, I want my EV money!

mgn · 11-10-2019 7:51pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You wish to see an apex predator reintroduced to a country that is populated by docile sheep and cattle with no natural predator.Whatever research you did must have been restricted to the Disney channel.

The will be telling us next that wolves are now vegetarian, so there safe to be let roam the countryside.

Plumbthedepths · 11-10-2019 7:54pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

You are a spoofer. Can tell them 10 miles off

Go on so what research have you carried out that makes you believe the reintroduction of wolves would not have a determential effect on wildlife and livestock. Bearing in mind wolves have no existed in the wilds of this country in nearly 25O years.
Now here's your chance to prove you are not an idiot parroting what you heard that fool E Ryan say.
Failing to answer confirms you yourself are the spoofer.

Wanderer78 · 11-10-2019 7:57pm

20Cent wrote:

The vast consensus of scientists are nutjobs, paul watson is smart though. This is why trump won.

Trump won because millions of Americans have been fcuked over by countless governments, both democratic and republican, for decades

Plumbthedepths · 11-10-2019 7:57pm

mgn wrote: »

The will be telling us next that wolves are now vegetarian, so there safe to be let roam the countryside.

Vegetarian? light weights don't they know Vegan is where it's at now.

The Oort Cloud · 11-10-2019 8:02pm

20Cent wrote: »

The vast consensus of scientists are nutjobs, paul watson is smart though.
This is why trump won.

You fail again to understand the wording of my comments. I never said scientists are nut-jobs, you twisted my comments in a strange way, I'm sorry but you are not making any sense. Where in my post did I say that scientists are nut-jobs? I cant find what you are claiming.

Beechwoodspark · 11-10-2019 8:07pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Trump won because millions of Americans have been fcuked over by countless governments, both democratic and republican, for decades

Why didn’t he run as an independent

Reps hav fcuked over the “coping classes” for years

Plumbthedepths · 11-10-2019 8:10pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Why didn’t he run as an independent

Reps hav fcuked over the “coping classes” for years

Any chance you'll share that extensive research you undertook to confirm reintroducing Wolves to the Irish countryside is a good idea?

SafeSurfer · 11-10-2019 8:10pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Taking drugs! Long hair! Different clothes to me!! Get the police to baton charge them at once!!!
Seriously some of you weirdos belong in the 1950s. Old men yelling at clouds. Do you want everyone in the world to dress and look the same way you do?
Whether you believe in Global Warming or not, the current model we are operating on can only lead to catastrophe. Expanding and a continually growing consuming economy can't keep going. Something needs to change or we are all f*cked.

Why? The good times are only starting. Soon the robots will do all manual work for us leaving us more time to consume. Never have more people had it so good. Even the people who have it bad, have it pretty good compared to those of a couple of centuries ago.

Thank you capitalism.

Thelonious Monk · 11-10-2019 8:15pm

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Why? The good times are only starting. Soon the robots will do all manual work for us leaving us more time to consume. Never have more people had it so good. Even the people who have it bad, have it pretty good compared to those of a couple of centuries ago.

Thank you capitalism.

Consumption at the current rates comes at a price, I mean if you don't understand why you can't be very bright.

SafeSurfer · 11-10-2019 8:19pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Why? The good times are only starting. Soon the robots will do all manual work for us leaving us more time to consume. Never have more people had it so good. Even the people who have it bad, have it pretty good compared to those of a couple of centuries ago.

Thank you capitalism.

Consumption at the current rates comes at a price, I mean if you don't understand why you can't be very bright.

Everything comes at a price. That’s capitalism for you.

Thelonious Monk · 11-10-2019 8:20pm

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Everything comes at a price. That’s capitalism for you.

so would you not like us to conduct ourselves in a way that doesn't cause so much destruction to the natural world? Or do you just not care?

SafeSurfer · 11-10-2019 8:24pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Everything comes at a price. That’s capitalism for you.

so would you not like us to conduct ourselves in a way that doesn't cause so much destruction to the natural world? Or do you just not care?

The green agenda is to monetise the environment, monetise nature. You know those ads on daytime TV where you can sponsor a snow leopard or restore a kids sight for €3 a month? Even though the snow leopard is cuter I’m going with the kid every time.

Plumbthedepths · 11-10-2019 8:26pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

so would you not like us to conduct ourselves in a way that doesn't cause so much destruction to the natural world? Or do you just not care?

Do you think developing nations are going to be happy to exist as they are now and not aspire to what societies in the West have been enjoying for decades.

Thelonious Monk · 11-10-2019 8:32pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Do you think developing nations are going to be happy to exist as they are now and not aspire to what societies in the West have been enjoying for decades.

I don't know, but our own back yard is being destroyed. Look up species decline in Ireland and natural habitats. Or all the fish kills from river spillages. Same all over the world really. I go to beach cleanups in Dublin, but it's pointless really. There's an endless stream of rubbish being f*cked all over our island. And it's just getting worse. How people are ok with this is beyond me, because India and China, or something.
I give up...

Thelonious Monk · 11-10-2019 8:33pm

SafeSurfer wrote: »

The green agenda is to monetise the environment, monetise nature. You know those ads on daytime TV where you can sponsor a snow leopard or restore a kids sight for €3 a month? Even though the snow leopard is cuter I’m going with the kid every time.

News to me, I know some people working in conservation, they are certainly not in it for the money, they could earn a lot more in other sectors.

Micky 32 · 11-10-2019 8:47pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I don't know, but our own back yard is being destroyed. Look up species decline in Ireland and natural habitats. Or all the fish kills from river spillages. Same all over the world really. I go to beach cleanups in Dublin, but it's pointless really. There's an endless stream of rubbish being f*cked all over our island. And it's just getting worse. How people are ok with this is beyond me, because India and China, or something.
I give up...

I was waiting for the “ i haven’t had a bit for months!” ;-), to be fair though i do agree with you about the rubbish etc.

lola85 · 11-10-2019 8:49pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I don't know, but our own back yard is being destroyed. Look up species decline in Ireland and natural habitats. Or all the fish kills from river spillages. Same all over the world really. I go to beach cleanups in Dublin, but it's pointless really. There's an endless stream of rubbish being f*cked all over our island. And it's just getting worse. How people are ok with this is beyond me, because India and China, or something.
I give up...

That’s environmental damage.

Nothing to do with climate change.

Thelonious Monk · 11-10-2019 8:52pm

lola85 wrote: »

That’s environmental damage.

Nothing to do with climate change.

Ok but as I said earlier, the mission statement of ER is

"using civil disobedience to compel government action on climate breakdown, biodiversity loss, and the risk of social and ecological collapse"

So environmental damage is part of their agenda. That's my main concern.

Plumbthedepths · 11-10-2019 8:57pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I don't know, but our own back yard is being destroyed. Look up species decline in Ireland and natural habitats. Or all the fish kills from river spillages. Same all over the world really. I go to beach cleanups in Dublin, but it's pointless really. There's an endless stream of rubbish being f*cked all over our island. And it's just getting worse. How people are ok with this is beyond me, because India and China, or something.
I give up...

So you think it's an acceptable position for us in the developed West to say to underdeveloped countries 'soz guys but because of climate change blah blah ye guys can't have the lifestyle that we enjoy. Do you see a credibility problem here?

AMKC · 11-10-2019 9:36pm

So I suppose none of these people in Extinction Rebellion (Terrible name by the way) buy clothes in Penneys, Dunnes or Tesco scene as they decided to interrupt shoppers just going about there business inn Penneys during the week. I suppose they are too poor to shop in BT as they just went in there to get support and backer but Posh people will not have liked that and they will only have done themselves more harm than good. I Know M&S that is where these people shop sure it is mid range shop you do not need to be not poor or rich just well off to shop there. My point I am making is unless these people are super green living in a zero carbon zero, pollution house a driving a Hydrogen oh wait sorry you can not buy any of them here yet so it would have to be on Electric car which gets charged from Power station which is burning some sort of fuel. Why should I care or believe anything they say? Don' get me wrong I think Electric cars are great and there is some people out there that should not be allowed anywhere near an ICE powered car.
I think the only reason they are in it is to be in a group. They no doubt all go drinking and get drunk after there protests. I heard the Guards had to pull some of them away from Leinstear House around 12 am last night. My brother said to me today the Guards should have just left them there for the night see how they like that and I agree. Why could they not have joined the Greens and got there points across that way. All they are doing is making things harder for the ordinary hard working person.

end of the road · 11-10-2019 10:01pm

AMKC wrote: »

So I suppose none of these people in Extinction Rebellion (Terrible name by the way) buy clothes in Penneys, Dunnes or Tesco scene as they decided to interrupt shoppers just going about there business inn Penneys during the week. I suppose they are too poor to shop in BT as they just went in there to get support and backer but Posh people will not have liked that and they will only have done themselves more harm than good. I Know M&S that is where these people shop sure it is mid range shop you do not need to be not poor or rich just well off to shop there. My point I am making is unless these people are super green living in a zero carbon zero, pollution house a driving a Hydrogen oh wait sorry you can not buy any of them here yet so it would have to be on Electric car which gets charged from Power station which is burning some sort of fuel. Why should I care or believe anything they say?

because science is saying it's accurate. and there is no such thing as the perfect, hypocracy free human being.

AMKC wrote: »

Don' get me wrong I think Electric cars are great and there is some people out there that should not be allowed anywhere near an ICE powered car.
I think the only reason they are in it is to be in a group. They no doubt all go drinking and get drunk after there protests. I heard the Guards had to pull some of them away from Leinstear House around 12 am last night. My brother said to me today the Guards should have just left them there for the night see how they like that and I agree. Why could they not have joined the Greens and got there points across that way. All they are doing is making things harder for the ordinary hard working person.

they are protesting because they care about climate change and environmental issues.
joining the greens would be pointless as it's a party going nowhere, whereas this protest is working well.
people often go drinking, and with others, that shouldn't be a shock.

SafeSurfer · 11-10-2019 10:25pm

end of the road wrote: »

AMKC wrote: »

So I suppose none of these people in Extinction Rebellion (Terrible name by the way) buy clothes in Penneys, Dunnes or Tesco scene as they decided to interrupt shoppers just going about there business inn Penneys during the week. I suppose they are too poor to shop in BT as they just went in there to get support and backer but Posh people will not have liked that and they will only have done themselves more harm than good. I Know M&S that is where these people shop sure it is mid range shop you do not need to be not poor or rich just well off to shop there. My point I am making is unless these people are super green living in a zero carbon zero, pollution house a driving a Hydrogen oh wait sorry you can not buy any of them here yet so it would have to be on Electric car which gets charged from Power station which is burning some sort of fuel. Why should I care or believe anything they say?

because science is saying it's accurate. and there is no such thing as the perfect, hypocracy free human being.

AMKC wrote: »

Don' get me wrong I think Electric cars are great and there is some people out there that should not be allowed anywhere near an ICE powered car.
I think the only reason they are in it is to be in a group. They no doubt all go drinking and get drunk after there protests. I heard the Guards had to pull some of them away from Leinstear House around 12 am last night. My brother said to me today the Guards should have just left them there for the night see how they like that and I agree. Why could they not have joined the Greens and got there points across that way. All they are doing is making things harder for the ordinary hard working person.

they are protesting because they care about climate change and environmental issues.
joining the greens would be pointless as it's a party going nowhere, whereas this protest is working well.
people often go drinking, and with others, that shouldn't be a shock.

Have you seen their manifesto?

They demand not just net carbon zero, but all greenhouse gases to be net zero by 2025.

Good luck with that. I look forward to your Tiananmen Square protests.

The Oort Cloud · 11-10-2019 10:26pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I don't know, but our own back yard is being destroyed. Look up species decline in Ireland and natural habitats. Or all the fish kills from river spillages. Same all over the world really. I go to beach cleanups in Dublin, but it's pointless really. There's an endless stream of rubbish being f*cked all over our island. And it's just getting worse. How people are ok with this is beyond me, because India and China, or something.
I give up...

You are talking about pollution. What has that got to do with climate change?. Too many people are getting mixed up between pollution and climate change, do they even understand the differences I wonder. Fair play to you all the same, at least you are doing something to clean-up some polluted areas, but for some odd reason a lot of folk keep talking about cleaning up pollution when their main comments are more associated with climate change - global warming. Both different issues.

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