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Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

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    #2132
    Mr.Micro
    Registered Users Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    Riskymove wrote: »
    Hindsight!! The guy can't win

    If it turned out that the suspect used the knife to kill the victim in the van while guards looked on people would aks why they didn't shoot him

    That did not happen. Let us stick to what we know.


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    #2133
    pah
    Registered Users Posts: 3,471 ✭✭✭pah


    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    Neither am I, but at that point Justine had still not been found and he was the link to vital information.

    FFS the guys on the scene were operating on the info that a female had been abducted by a man in this vehicle, unless there was info to suggest otherwise they had to proceed on the assumption she was still in the car. Any actions deemed to be hostile from that point had to be dealt with swiftly. They were.


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    #2134
    [Deleted User]
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    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    That did not happen. Let us stick to what we know.

    Maybe you should take your own advice


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    #2135
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    That did not happen. Let us stick to what we know.

    Maybe you should take your own advice


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    #2136
    Mr.Micro
    Registered Users Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Maybe you should take your own advice

    Which is ?


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    #2137
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,887 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    That did not happen. .

    How do you know that they knew she wasn't in the van?


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    #2138
    Sunflower 27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,955 ✭✭✭Sunflower 27


    Riskymove wrote: »
    How do you know that they knew she wasn't in the van?

    I'd imagine he would have seen her if she was. I'm sure they assessed the situation, not blindly shoot into a van with potentially innocent victims inside.


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    #2139
    RobbieMD
    Registered Users Posts: 449 ✭✭RobbieMD


    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    A bullet to incapacitate, instead of taser or negotiation? One bullet was all it took.

    The Garda who shot him didn't have a taser though. At most pepper spray, a baton and his firearm. You can be sure he attempted negotiation first and then ramped up his force options. Using a baton would've been impractical in an enclosed space like a car. Pepper spray doesn't stop a knife being swung wildly. His only other option was to use his firearm. The aim isn't to kill but to stop the threat. The Garda knows he must account for each round fired and by all accounts, one round was sufficient and measured.


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    #2140
    tara73
    Registered Users Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭tara73


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Some encouraging news from the Consul to the Philippines Mark Congdon. He told RTE Drivetime he has just come from being with Jastine's parents and they are "improving every day". He says he has been showing them videos and photos of the vigils around Ireland and telling them about the funding efforts and they are really touched.

    Sounds like he is doing a fantastic job for them and is personally overseeing all the numerous arrangements to get her back home.


    sorry if I missed it being stated already, but are her parents not here in Ireland? So she was here all by herself?? Or did she had other family members here?


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    #2141
    tara73
    Registered Users Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭tara73


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Some encouraging news from the Consul to the Philippines Mark Congdon. He told RTE Drivetime he has just come from being with Jastine's parents and they are "improving every day". He says he has been showing them videos and photos of the vigils around Ireland and telling them about the funding efforts and they are really touched.

    sorry, double post, see post before


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    #2142
    TomOnBoard
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    tara73 wrote: »
    sorry if I missed it being stated already, but are her parents not here in Ireland? So she was here all by herself?? Or did she had other family members here?

    Parents are in Ireland. Mark Congdon is the consul of, not to, the Phillipines in Ireland


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    #2143
    Strazdas
    Registered Users Posts: 18,303 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    tara73 wrote: »
    sorry if I missed it being stated already, but are her parents not here in Ireland? So she was here all by herself?? Or did she had other family members here?

    Sorry, I should have said Consul 'of' the Philippines of course. Jastine's parents are indeed living in Ireland and have been for many years. In fact, they are the reason she moved to Ireland (to join them, having lived with her grandparents in the Philippines previously).


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    #2144
    Ronan|Raven
    Registered Users Posts: 8,144 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    Massive crowd today at the funeral home in Bray.
    Such a terrible waste of a young life. It really is infuriating to see her with her whole life ahead of her laid out. I hope he died roaring, shooting was too good for him.


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    #2145
    chicorytip
    Registered Users Posts: 4,107 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    orangerhyme wrote:
    Larry Murphy and John Crerar both were married with kids and committed very similar crimes in the same area.


    Both are now free men, I presume? The crime Murphy was convicted of was different in the sense of the level of planning he engaged in beforehand. The victim had been stalked and her movements monitored before being abducted, brutally raped and almost suffocated when, by chance, two men (hunters, I think) happened to come upon the scene and Murphy fled. His modus operandi would suggest this was not the first occasion he had struck and he could have been active throughout the entire Leinster region. An utterly evil bastard who should have been locked away for life.


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    #2146
    tayto lover
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    Mr.Micro wrote: »
    That did not happen. Let us stick to what we know.

    We know that he murdered the little girl by strangling her within an hour of kidnapping her. Then he went on an alcohol and coke binge to celebrate.
    Then when he found out he was suspected he decided to take the cowards way out.
    He deserved to die BUT it was too quick.


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    #2147
    4ensic15
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    chicorytip wrote: »
    Both are now free men, I presume? The crime Murphy was convicted of was different in the sense of the level of planning he engaged in beforehand. The victim had been stalked and her movements monitored before being abducted, brutally raped and almost suffocated when, by chance, two men (hunters, I think) happened to come upon the scene and Murphy fled. His modus operandi would suggest this was not the first occasion he had struck and he could have been active throughout the entire Leinster region. An utterly evil bastard who should have been locked away for life.

    Larry has done his time and should be left in peace.


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    #2148
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,127 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    4ensic15 wrote: »
    Larry has done his time and should be left in peace.

    No he should not . Every woman in this country should be warned about him and know who he is . He is a vile and vicious criminal .


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    #2149
    wellwhynot
    Registered Users Posts: 280 ✭✭wellwhynot


    4ensic15 wrote: »
    Larry has done his time and should be left in peace.

    Are you joking? I very much hope so. Peace is the last thing Larry Murphy deserves. I despair!


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    #2150
    CollyFlower
    Registered Users Posts: 6,031 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    4ensic15 wrote: »
    Larry has done his time and should be left in peace.



    Pffft, Larry should never be left in peace, not until he dies.


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    #2151
    4ensic15
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!


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    #2152
    wellwhynot
    Registered Users Posts: 280 ✭✭wellwhynot


    4ensic15 wrote: »
    Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!

    I don’t think anyone on this thread or anyone I have ever met ever has sinned as much as Larry Murphy.


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    #2153
    4ensic15
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    wellwhynot wrote: »
    I don’t think anyone on this thread or anyone I have ever met ever has sinned as much as Larry Murphy.

    There is only evidence of 1 sin. I'd say a lot of people on this thread have sinned more than once.


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    #2154
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,127 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    4ensic15 wrote: »
    Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!

    I take it you never knew the victim ? I know of her and people who know her and believe me Larry Murphy deserve no mercy


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    #2155
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Oh, for f*ck sake, have a bit of respect. Take your trolling to another thread. Campaign for the rapist somewhere else

    This is not a thread for Larry Murphy


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    #2156
    4ensic15
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I take it you never knew the victim ? I know of her and people who know her and believe me Larry Murphy deserve no mercy

    So, a friend of a friend? Now you are setting yourself up as judge jury and executioner. Mob rule.


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    #2157
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,127 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    4ensic15 wrote: »
    So, a friend of a friend? Now you are setting yourself up as judge jury and executioner. Mob rule.

    Go away .you are so inappropriate trolling on this thread


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    #2158
    4ensic15
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Go away .you are so inappropriate trolling on this thread

    When someone doesn't go along with the mob rule cosy consensus they are made the enemy. That is what caused Christ to be killed.


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    #2159
    Esel
    Registered Users Posts: 22,109 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    4ensic15 wrote: »
    When someone doesn't go along with the mob rule cosy consensus they are made the enemy. That is what caused Christ to be killed.

    Are you angry about anything in particular at present?

    Not your ornery onager



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    #2160
    CollyFlower
    Registered Users Posts: 6,031 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    I can't believe how much this tragic murder has affected me, I just can't stop thinking about it.. I didn't know Jastine or her parents.... I don't give donations to strangers but I felt compelled to give to the GFM Fund.


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    #2161
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,127 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    CollyFlower wrote: »
    I can't believe how much this tragic murder has affected me, I just can't stop thinking about it.. I didn't know Jastine or her parents.... I don't give donations to strangers but I felt compelled to give to the GFM Fund.

    I think it struck a chord because it could have been us , or our sister or daughter or girlfriend . Its everyones nightmare and someone is now suffering that horror


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