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Recommend electric folding scooter for end of commute (Mod Note Post #1)

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    #482
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,127 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Don't agree it's more dangerous than a bicycle. It stops quickly and doesn't go near as fast.
    When did we become so soft that scooting was seen as dangerous.


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    #483
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 13,458 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    grogi wrote: »
    Bicycles do require you to pedal - going fast is hard - and have much bigger wheels - thus navigating the potholes is easier. Electric scooter is much more dangerous and I wouldn't like to see any wanker going around on one. I also don't believe that Gardai will be able to keep them under control.

    Sure the Gardai cant even keep scramblers under control!


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    #484
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    grogi wrote: »
    Bicycles do require you to pedal - going fast is hard - and have much bigger wheels - thus navigating the potholes is easier. Electric scooter is much more dangerous and I wouldn't like to see any wanker going around on one. I also don't believe that Gardai will be able to keep them under control.




    Hard to control. How many scrambles and little quads are flying around the green areas in Dublin? no license/insurance/tax nothing......they can go alot quicker than a scooter.....


    They are more of a nuisance than a scooter


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    #485
    grogi
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    antodeco wrote: »
    Sure the Gardai cant even keep scramblers under control!
    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Hard to control. How many scrambles and little quads are flying around the green areas in Dublin? no license/insurance/tax nothing......they can go alot quicker than a scooter.....

    I count myself lucky then - I literally have no idea what you're talking about...


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    #486
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Don't agree it's more dangerous than a bicycle. It stops quickly and doesn't go near as fast.
    When did we become so soft that scooting was seen as dangerous.

    You're only looking at low end ones. There are many more,

    This one does 30kph
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=109080662&postcount=417

    This one 40kph
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108801308&postcount=363


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    #487
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    beauf wrote: »
    You're only looking at low end ones. There are many more,

    This one does 30kph
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=109080662&postcount=417

    This one 40kph
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108801308&postcount=363




    They are rated at that speed when a mouse is on them.....unfortunately the oversized Irish man will restrict the speed a bit....first time I stood up on the M365 the tyre blew out with the weight of me :P:P:P


    I joke, but not a chance in hell with an adult they get close to that speed. My sister in law took the M365 for a spin. She is very petite and it didn't get up to that speed.


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    #488
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    grogi wrote: »
    I count myself lucky then - I literally have no idea what you're talking about...


    I don't live in Dublin but I go in and out of Dublin regular, you will see them dotted around different parts of Dublin.....not too hard either, normally you can hear long before you can see


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    #489
    beauf
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    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    They are rated at that speed when a mouse is on them.....unfortunately the oversized Irish man will restrict the speed a bit....first time I stood up on the M365 the tyre blew out with the weight of me :P:P:P


    I joke, but not a chance in hell with an adult they get close to that speed. My sister in law took the M365 for a spin. She is very petite and it didn't get up to that speed.

    The M365 is 250w the others are more powerful.


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    #490
    loyatemu
    Registered Users Posts: 14,851 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    grogi wrote: »
    Bicycles do require you to pedal - going fast is hard - and have much bigger wheels - thus navigating the potholes is easier. Electric scooter is much more dangerous and I wouldn't like to see any wanker going around on one. I also don't believe that Gardai will be able to keep them under control.

    do you have proof they're more dangerous? Pedestrians have been killed by cyclists but it's incredibly rare, I don't think the risk from scooters is likely to be much higher (they weigh about the same as a bike but I assume most of that weight is in the base in the form of batteries).


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    #491
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Heres a Vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tuQqSXrVlo&feature=youtu.be


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    #492
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    loyatemu wrote: »
    do you have proof they're more dangerous? Pedestrians have been killed by cyclists but it's incredibly rare, I don't think the risk from scooters is likely to be much higher (they weigh about the same as a bike but I assume most of that weight is in the base in the form of batteries).

    The US has both for a while. One opinion is that people under estimate the speed of the scooters and get out of their depth very fast. I've no opinion on it either way.
    the death rate on shared Lime and Bike e-scooters is roughly one per 10.75 million trips. There have been just two bike share deaths nationwide, making the death rate roughly one for every 61.5 million trips,


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    #493
    Martynet
    Registered Users Posts: 152 ✭✭Martynet


    quarryman wrote: »
    Still loving my Zoom Stryder. About 450km done on it now.

    The best part is the full suspension. I don’t know how anyone clocks up miles on the M365 without any suspension on it.

    I love bunny hopping off the odd kerb on my way home.

    My advice: don’t cheap out on the models with no suspension. Irish roads just aren’t made for it.

    Same here. Went for Dualtron Spider. Should come this weeks. It's the longest waiting in my life... Ordered it at the end of november. Btw, you are welcome to share any info and experince, photos, etc in the FB group "Electric Scooter Ireland", I created recently. And if you know any other riders, invite them in too. cheers


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    #494
    Martynet
    Registered Users Posts: 152 ✭✭Martynet


    grogi wrote: »
    A scooter like that is not really suitable to be driven on a road - rather cycle paths and walkways. But it still is very fast - and it is very easy to make serious harm - hurt a pedestrian when riding a scooter like that.

    I am all for making our transport much more sustainable. But as it stands, just making them legal is a recipe for disaster IMHO. They really would need to be seriously limited - to ~10 kmh - to be allowed to be used without insurance and driving license.

    When I cycle to work, my speed going downhill is around 40-50 km/h. So I don't think that bicycle is less harmfull than a scooter. I think that scooters should be allowed in cycling lane, to keep the riders safe. Most of the scooter riders keep the average speed around 25-35 km/h. Which is perfectly safe. I wouldn't allow scooter on the path, unless there is no road or cycle lane.

    Anyway, lots has to change, because scooters and other similar gadgets are amazing commuting devices... And we need to find political support and more riders :)


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    #495
    bigslick
    Registered Users Posts: 992 ✭✭✭bigslick


    Anyone considering the Xiaomi M365 Amazon Spain currently have it at €369 https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B077QHRLPB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1AT7YVPFBWXBL&psc=1, though you will have to use ParcelMotel/AddressPall etc for delivery to Ireland. I got mine through here and was €380 at the time, so this is even better deal.

    Re: suspension, i havent had much an issue with this. As one previous poster said, just be conscious of potholes and youre fine. I have had to tighten handlebars slightly every two weeks or so due to vibrations, but for my purposes doesnt cause me any issues.


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    #496
    SteM
    Registered Users Posts: 6,609 ✭✭✭SteM


    bigslick wrote: »
    Anyone considering the Xiaomi M365 Amazon Spain currently have it at €369 https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B077QHRLPB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1AT7YVPFBWXBL&psc=1, though you will have to use ParcelMotel/AddressPall etc for delivery to Ireland. I got mine through here and was €380 at the time, so this is even better deal.

    Re: suspension, i havent had much an issue with this. As one previous poster said, just be conscious of potholes and youre fine. I have had to tighten handlebars slightly every two weeks or so due to vibrations, but for my purposes doesnt cause me any issues.

    One of the lads in work has one of these but says punctures are a pain to fix. Anyone had any issues fixing punctures on these?


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    #497
    Shefwedfan
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    SteM wrote: »
    One of the lads in work has one of these but says punctures are a pain to fix. Anyone had any issues fixing punctures on these?




    Seen a video with some stuff they pumped into the tyre to stop puncture....


    to fix a puncture it is very difficult to take the wheel off


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    #498
    bigslick
    Registered Users Posts: 992 ✭✭✭bigslick


    SteM wrote: »
    One of the lads in work has one of these but says punctures are a pain to fix. Anyone had any issues fixing punctures on these?

    Have done about 600kms on it so far with no punctures (touch wood) yet. Best way to avoid punctures is to make sure the tyre PSI is always at right level (40-50 PSI) at all times. This means I usually pump up the front tyre about once a week, after using it to and from work 5 days a week. Also avoid potholes, and glass, which I have noticed more and more since having.

    You can use a liquid called Slime (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000W45GGW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1) to help prevent punctures. You deflate tyre, squeeze it into the tyre inner tube, inflate, and then if you get a puncture the slime oozes into the puncture and temporarily seals it. Though I have heard stories from people that it does not work as expected. If punctures are an issue, you can buy solid rubber tyres to install instead, however this makes ride a bit harder.

    If you do get a puncture it is the front one which is most difficult to replace, as the motor is contained in front wheel. Rear tire is easy enough in comparison. Lots of videos online on how to do it though, but would need few hours to complete. I would advise getting the EU/UK version for this reason, as it comes with two spare sets of tyres, while the International version sold by Gearbest etc do not, and inflatable tyres can run about €20 a pop.


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    #499
    andy_g
    Registered Users Posts: 7,559 ✭✭✭andy_g


    SteM wrote: »
    One of the lads in work has one of these but says punctures are a pain to fix. Anyone had any issues fixing punctures on these?

    im using solid tyres on my m365 and to be honest its not too much harder ride


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    #500
    Northern Monkey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭Northern Monkey


    Does anyone own one of these have large feet? I’m thinking about getting one but not sure if both on my size 13’s will fit on it!


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    #501
    Garibaldi?
    Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭Garibaldi?


    Looking at you tube videos of people on scooters Id say shoe size wouldn't be an issue, Appropriate foot wear though. Saw one woman in highish heels on a scooter yesterday!


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    #502
    Garibaldi?
    Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭Garibaldi?


    What's the best way to carry a few belongings on these scooters?


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    #503
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Northern Monkey wrote: »
    Does anyone own one of these have large feet? I’m thinking about getting one but not sure if both on my size 13’s will fit on it!

    Go look at one in a three shop. They are pretty massive these scooters.


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    #504
    Northern Monkey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭Northern Monkey


    beauf wrote: »
    Go look at one in a three shop. They are pretty massive these scooters.

    Cheers, I didn’t realise they had display models in the 3 shop. Will have a look!


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    #505
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Blanch does. Dunno about the others. Theres also that bike shop I linked to earlier.


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    #506
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,127 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Garibaldi? wrote: »
    What's the best way to carry a few belongings on these scooters?

    There's a little messages hook you can get just ordered one EUR 2.62


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    #507
    cojomo2
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    3 have confirmed the warranty on these is a 2 year collect and return. Be mad to buy one from china based on that..pretty good deal.


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    #508
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 13,458 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    They €429 in a three store?


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    #509
    cojomo2
    Registered Users Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭cojomo2


    antodeco wrote: »
    They €429 in a three store?

    449 I think


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    #510
    cojomo2
    Registered Users Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭cojomo2


    cojomo2 wrote: »
    449 I think

    Was going to buy one this weekend..out of stock in all stores, no date for new stock..


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    #511
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,127 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    cojomo2 wrote: »
    Was going to buy one this weekend..out of stock in all stores, no date for new stock..

    They are in stock I checked earlier, you just met the wrong person, can be bought in all 3 stores and delivered home to you.


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