~ Pre-Clearance and PassportControl queries ~

ION08

Hi Guys,

Traveling to the US soon and I believe my flight from DUB will depart from T1 (Gates 300+)

Would love to go through pre-clearence but I think this is only for US bound flights leaving from T2 if I'm not mistaken?

Can anyone confirm?

Humour Me

Who are you flying with?

Luckysasha

If your going from T1 them I'm guessing it's not a direct flight from Dublin to the US. In which case you can't do preclearace in Dublin.

ION08

Luckysasha wrote: »

If your going from T1 them I'm guessing it's not a direct flight from Dublin to the US. In which case you can't do preclearace in Dublin.

It's not a direct flight

Thanks, thought as much

Luckysasha

I always fly direct to the US just for this reason. If I can't get a direct flight to whet I'm going I will pick up an internal flight in the US rather than in Europe

Fred Swanson

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Wanderer2010

Has pre clearance gotten worse since Trump? Are people handing over facebook passwords and getting x rayed?

Fred Swanson

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ozbackineire

Hi,

I am travelling to Brussels on Friday evening for the long weekend. There has been a lot of coverage in the news in the past few days about getting through immigration at a number of airports including Brussels for citizens from Non-Schengen countries with wait times of up to 4 hours. :eek:

I was wondering has anyone travelled to Brussels recently and can let me know their experience? Are the wait time's as bad as the news make out? Is it affecting Irish aswel as British people? We are landing at 10:30 on Friday night on a Ryanair flight so I was hoping the queue's might be shorter. Anyone any experience of that?

Any help is appreciated because right now I am dreading the trip!

Midnight Sundance

Hi,
I've just been reading online there that many travellers in airports across Europe are experiencing long delays due to stricter passport checks. It said that many tourists are missing flights due to the queues.
I wanted to check if this is perhaps an exaggerated by the papers or has anyone experienced delays ?
I'm particularly interested in Portugal ( faro) airport as I'm travelling there this weekend.
I want to gauge how long/ much extra airport time I should budget into my travel .
Faro airport is pretty bleak and would hate to be there any longer than required .

Yamanoto

I was through both Madrid & Porto last week (MAD being one of the airports mentioned in recent reports) & though there were queues, they moved quickly & were nothing out of the ordinary. That being said, the pics from Schipol looked fairly daunting & I've certainly never encountered anything like that on the many occasions I've been through the airport.

HeidiHeidi

"Security check before getting into airport, security check before getting to check-in, security check after check-in."

A FB post from a pal of mine this morning. He was returning from the south of Spain, not sure which airport.

k123456

Portugal is mentioned in several of the new items, as having delays

redcup342

ozbackineire wrote: »

Hi,

I am travelling to Brussels on Friday evening for the long weekend. There has been a lot of coverage in the news in the past few days about getting through immigration at a number of airports including Brussels for citizens from Non-Schengen countries with wait times of up to 4 hours. :eek:

I was wondering has anyone travelled to Brussels recently and can let me know their experience? Are the wait time's as bad as the news make out? Is it affecting Irish aswel as British people? We are landing at 10:30 on Friday night on a Ryanair flight so I was hoping the queue's might be shorter. Anyone any experience of that?

Any help is appreciated because right now I am dreading the trip!

It's affecting anyone flying from outside the Schengen Zone.



So if you are flying from/to anywhere that isn't Purple or Blue (Ireland Included)

Factor in up to 4 hours entering and leaving at Zavantem (You need to go through Border Control leaving the Schengen Zone as well) , from the Irish Side it's business as Usual.

madds

I'm flying to Perpignan on Sunday with the family. Anyone heard if there are issues there? Wondering if purchasing Fasttrack passes will help with the queues in Dublin.

Seems to be specifically linked to entering and exiting the Schengen zone. You get checked going in against various databases, and are subjected to the same procedure when leaving it. Apparently some delays have been longer than the length of the flights people were intending to catch. Inadequate staffing at passport control is being blamed as well.

The enhanced procedure has to be in place at all airports in the Schengen zone by October. Some airports have introduced it already hence the delays people are seeing now.

munchkin_utd

the papers are getting good mileage out of this story .

One view is to join Schengen !
http://www.independent.ie/life/travel/eoghan-corry-join-schengen-and-all-our-airport-queueing-issues-are-over-35995707.html

Maybe a more pragmatic solution would be schengen preclearance at Irish airports, essentially whats done at ports in England and France and the Eurostar trains, but infrastructurally that might prove difficult.

mahamageehad

Hi all,
My little sister is heading from Brussels Charleroi to Bucharest tomorrow early. The flight is at 9.10, and the earliest bus she can get gets here there at 7:30. It's Ryanair so she'll have the boarding pass already, and she's just bringing hand luggage, but she's panicking about queues now because of the Schengen thing. She's considering going to the airport tonight on the last bus and sleeping there, but I think that's overkill. Anyone that's been there (especially recently) know how long it usually takes to get through the airport??

(Side note- I just realised Romania isn't Schengen, I was expecting a quick and easy trip from Frankfurt tomorrow but that doesn't seem likely now! )

Fred Swanson

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Locker10a

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Which police force would staff these checks?

Surly local police in each respective country

Fred Swanson

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mugsymugsy

Faro is a nightmare of an airport at the best of times. Peak season and with extra security I would allow an extra 30 mins to get through whatever time you normally allow yourself.

Average Irish pub after security if you are early and want one last drink before home.

CeilingFly

madds wrote: »

I'm flying to Perpignan on Sunday with the family. Anyone heard if there are issues there? Wondering if purchasing Fasttrack passes will help with the queues in Dublin.

Dublin queues are just normal peak queues - Can't see major issues on Sunday.

When you arrive in Perpignan have a look and see what local situation is as they'll be implementing the schengen rules on exit.

howyanow

I flew from Faro on Tuesday just gone.We were probably 20 mins getting through security.We had a 9pm departure so maybe it's worse at other times of the day.The food court was very busy when we got through and there was very little seating!

mahamageehad

Just updating this in case anyone comes looking for the same info.

My parents flew from Brussels to Dublin last week, arrived at the airport 2 hours in advance and barely made their plane as there was so much queuing. That's why we were worried initially. However, since Charleroi is a tiny airport, we thought she should just chance going this morning. So, she arrived there this morning, and it took exactly 12 minutes from arriving at the airport to sitting at her gate. So the delays don't appear to be affecting that airport, at least not early morning anyways!

munchkin_utd

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exactly why i didnt mention this detail !
Between france and Uk its a bilateral aggrement. Between Ireland and USA the same. To implement something between Ireland and all of Schengen would be totally different.

In all honesty, if there's only a consistently massive issue with arrival into Iberian holiday destinations then you'd probably only really need to have some sort of Portugal/ Spain joint effort, or even just Spain having officers on the ground in Ireland.

its probably a bit pie in the sky of a suggestion especially when these delays may only be teething problems, but theres more chance of some sort of pre-checks in Ireland for Schengen passengers than Ireland joining schengen.

Afroshack

I flew home from Lisbon this week and the queues were pretty long at passport control, security not so much. Had it not been for the fact that the terminal was so small and ryanair delayed their departure times, I would have missed my flight. The electronic passport scanners all broke down at the same time and there were two members of staff to manually scan everyone's passport. Spent about 90 minutes altogether queueing.

dring

Reading in the Spanish media that BCN airport has had huge delays at security control recently, the staff are on a go-slow(double/treble checking everything) in protest at hours, lack of personnel and I presume money. Some are having to work 14 hour shifts. Talks broke down yesterday and an all out strike is planned from the 14th

ozbackineire

Original poster back with an update!

Arrived in the airport 4 hours ahead of departure time yesterday and got through security and passport control in under 20 minutes!! this was at 12 midday so a pretty busy time usually. Flew in and out of Brussels International airport. no problems for me thankfully

Fred Swanson

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killbillvol2

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You can buy some wonderful chocolate in Zavantem!

Fred Swanson

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Mr rebel

ozbackineire wrote: »

Original poster back with an update!

Arrived in the airport 4 hours ahead of departure time yesterday and got through security and passport control in under 20 minutes!! this was at 12 midday so a pretty busy time usually. Flew in and out of Brussels International airport. no problems for me thankfully

Except for waiting in an airport for 3 hours 40 minutes before your flight!!
Perhaps some queuing would have been welcome to help pass the time:p

ozbackineire

Just chilled out, people watched, read a book, had some food! the time went by very quickly. preferred that than standing in a Q for 4 hours!

kerry4sam

Mod Note:

Maybe keep an eye on the Aviation & Aircraft forum, esp this thread.

Thanks,
kerry4sam

Doltanian

Will be flying Dublin to Abu Dhabi on EY42 Thursday morning at 09:25am, will be driving a long distance so was wondering would the standard 2hrs before abe cceptable to arrive in Dublin Airport between 7am to 7:25am, some people have said I'd need three hours is what is being advised now but I'm unsure.

Also as I'm not overly familiar with Dublin traffic I'm wondering what would the M50 be like between 6:30am to 7:25am on a Thursday morning between the Red Cow going to the Airport.

killbillvol2

Doltanian wrote: »

Will be flying Dublin to Abu Dhabi on EY42 Thursday morning at 09:25am, will be driving a long distance so was wondering would the standard 2hrs before abe cceptable to arrive in Dublin Airport between 7am to 7:25am, some people have said I'd need three hours is what is being advised now but I'm unsure.

Also as I'm not overly familiar with Dublin traffic I'm wondering what would the M50 be like between 6:30am to 7:25am on a Thursday morning between the Red Cow going to the Airport.

I just don't understand this. Why would you want to cut it fine if you're driving a long distance to the airport. Get there early, relax, sleep on the plane.

One small accident on the M50 and you miss your flight.

Gamebred

Flying Friday from T1 @ 9.40 gate closes at 9.10, guessing 8am is a safe time to arrive in the airport?

VG31

Gamebred wrote: »

Flying Friday from T1 @ 9.40 gate closes at 9.10, guessing 8am is a safe time to arrive in the airport?

That should be fine. 8 am is one of the quieter times of the day in my experience.

malcomb3

Hi all. I'm traveling to the US next in a few months and I'm anxious about the preclearance which I have never used before. What kind of questions will I be asked? Will it matter that I am not working?

Dodge

'Where are you going?' was the only question I was asked 2 weeks ago

They can't tell if you're working or not

Subcomandante Marcos

They probably won't ask you anything, if they do it will be stuff like where are you going, who are you staying with, why are you going there or how long will you be staying.

Del2005

malcomb3 wrote: »

Hi all. I'm traveling to the US next in a few months and I'm anxious about the preclearance which I have never used before. What kind of questions will I be asked? Will it matter that I am not working?

They can ask you any questions that they want. Usually the question isn't important it's the answer they are looking at. Don't volunteer information just answer the question asked and unless they instigate don't tell jokes.

malcomb3

Thanks

malcomb3

What checks do they do for electronic devices such as a laptop? Will I need to turn it on?

Del2005

malcomb3 wrote: »

What checks do they do for electronic devices such as a laptop? Will I need to turn it on?

Immigration can require you to turn on and give the password to any device you are carrying, along with the password for any email/social media accounts.

For security it's best to have some battery as they sometimes ask to see it working to make sure that it's not got contraband inside.

malcomb3

Del2005 wrote: »

malcomb3 wrote: »

What checks do they do for electronic devices such as a laptop? Will I need to turn it on?

Immigration can require you to turn on and give the password to any device you are carrying, along with the password for any email/social media accounts.

For security it's best to have some battery as they sometimes ask to see it working to make sure that it's not got contraband inside.

Social media logins seems insane but okay.

Dodge

malcomb3 wrote: »

What checks do they do for electronic devices such as a laptop? Will I need to turn it on?

No, you probably won't have to turn it on. We had phones turned on, tablets off. Made no difference

TBH I think you're over thinking it a little. They see thousands of people each day and don't have time to interrogate everybody. Once you have your ESTA and your passport matches that and the flight, you'll be done in seconds

Del2005

malcomb3 wrote: »

Social media logins seems insane but okay.

They are checking for people trying to immigrate illegally into their country. Having your Bon Voyage party pics on your social media would be a giveaway.

A lot of companies are stopping their staff from bringing work laptop's on international flights as the immigration in every country demands the right to access all media that is carried regardless of the how confidential it is or it being Intellectual property.

bfa1509

I flew to Southampton this week. I had absolutely no issue flying over, I didn't even need a passport, just some form of photo ID.

On the way back however it was a different story. I was hoping to get through Dublin airport quickly as I had to catch a bus. Of course, what am I greeted by at Dublin airport? A massive queue at passport control. Why is it that when travelling within the EU that I still have to prove who I am using a passport? What would happen if I didn't have my passport?

I was really annoyed as I missed the bus because it took so long to get through. I travel regularly to stockholm for work also and it's always the same story coming back in. I wouldn't mind but the non-eu citizens seem to get fast tracked through their own stalls!! Ridiculous!

endacl

Why do borders have border controls? Because borders?