Lunchtime Live with Ciara Kelly [Mod warning post #1]

Silentcorner

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Regular Main Presenters
Shane Coleman - Louth
Kieran Cuddihy - Kilkenny
Pat Kenny - Dublin
Ciara Kelly - Dublin
Sean Moncrieff - (born in London), reared in Galway
Ivan Yates - Wexford
Ger Gilroy - Kildare
Joe Molloy - Kildare
Nathan Murphy - Mayo
Eoin Sheehan ‐ Kerry
Tom Dunne - Dublin

Regular stand in presenters
Jonathan Healy - Cork
Andrea Gilligan - Donegal
Susan Keogh - Kildare
Richie McCormack - Dublin

That's a reasonable spread is it not? The only one whose origins i didnt know from listening to the station was Moncrieff. Each of the others refer to the context of stories with respect to their own home place fairly frequently.

On Bertie, is he on that frequently? I feel ive only seen him on odd enough occasions over last number of years. I think its recognized he's not a hectic communicator.

No a reasonable spread would be if the stations or RTE were based in different parts of the country...the presenters all live in the same media bubble, which is one reason why Senior members of FF, Senior members of the Dublin Local Authority, Senior members of the Financial Institutions all based in Dublin all managed to evade media attention despite the endemic political and planning corruption that has stained the ability of Dublin to grow in a well planned manner, which is one reason why Dublin is one of the worst congested cities in the world.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/dublin-one-of-worst-cities-in-world-for-traffic-congestion-1.3791651

Dublin citizens have to navigate the consequences of that planning corruption every day forever more, but again, our media does not like to bring attention to the victims of white collar crime.

Political/Planning corruption is impossible without media complicity, it is not healthy when they are all based in one of the most insular parts of an insular island.

Bertie Ahern should be ostracized, full stop, there is no excuse for him to be on RTE, he has been on regularly over the last few years, I have noted that they will not put him on front of an audience....they know themselves what would happen.

Silentcorner

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

There must be a handful, maybe several, councillors on the national airwaves each week -- be that radio or TV or both. The fact that Jim O'Callaghan is a senior counsel (there must be fewer than 500 of them in a country of nearly 5 million humans) would presumably have vastly increased his eligibility.

I'm not a naïve person, I completely agree that nepotism is a feature of the media industry. But you're probably grasping at straws here.

No you are wrong...he was on that show on numerous occassions because his sister was a Co Presenter...he was never presented as Senior Councel he was presented as a Councillor which is why is I remember it so well.... stop making excuses for blatant abuse of positions of power...you wouldn't see this kind of nonsense in most other developed nations, it is embarrassing.

He had run unsuccessfully for FF in 2007, he became a councillor in 2009, he started appearing on National TV (I have never seen a councillor on that show before or since) in about 2011/2012...he was elected TD in 2016.

Brass neck wouldn't begin to describe what the stunts RTE have pulled off over the years, this being only one of many.

redbuck

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Silentcorner wrote: »

We are pathetically insular and media and South Dublin are particularly insular, it is not jealously, frankly, more and more of us have just had enough!

Regular Main Presenters
Shane Coleman - Louth
Kieran Cuddihy - Kilkenny
Pat Kenny - Dublin
Ciara Kelly - Dublin
Sean Moncrieff - (born in London), reared in Galway
Ivan Yates - Wexford
Ger Gilroy - Kildare
Joe Molloy - Kildare
Nathan Murphy - Mayo
Eoin Sheehan ‐ Kerry
Tom Dunne - Dublin

Regular stand in presenters
Jonathan Healy - Cork
Andrea Gilligan - Donegal
Susan Keogh - Kildare
Richie McCormack - Dublin

That's a reasonable spread is it not? The only one whose origins i didnt know from listening to the station was Moncrieff. Each of the others refer to the context of stories with respect to their own home place fairly frequently.

On Bertie, is he on that frequently? I feel ive only seen him on odd enough occasions over last number of years. I think its recognized he's not a hectic communicator.

How do you know where every presenter comes from?

redbuck

redbuck wrote: »

How do you know where every presenter comes from?

It’s not that hard, you just listen , usually comes up in chat or slagging on most shows, I knew about PK Ciara Kelly never stops talking about Greystones , Andrea Gillian mentions Donegal a lot, Ivan Yates banging on about Wexford non stop. It comes up!

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Silentcorner wrote: »

.... stop making excuses for blatant abuse of positions of power...you wouldn't see this kind of nonsense in most other developed nations, it is embarrassing.

Really?

Have you seen what goes on in America and the UK, our two most comparable countries probably.

Fox news is effective propaganda station for Republicans and anyone connected to them and in particular the current president.

Nigel Farage seems to get disproportionate bookings on the BBC, even before Brexit for someone who failed to get elected to Westminster 7 times.

Silentcorner

Silentcorner wrote: »

No you are wrong...he was on that show on numerous occassions because his sister was a Co Presenter...he was never presented as Senior Councel he was presented as a Councillor which is why is I remember it so well.... stop making excuses

Look, I'll leave you to your clearly very fixed beliefs.

To get somewhat back on-topic, Ciara Kelly has maintained or even increased her listenership as compared to George Hook's figures. As far as I know, she has no family connections in either the media or, for that matter, in medicine. She got where she is by dint of hard work. Shouting from the sidelines about her or other journalists may give you some satisfaction, but it will be left to others to determine whether your points have any merit at all.

Silentcorner

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Look, I'll leave you to your clearly very fixed beliefs.

To get somewhat back on-topic, Ciara Kelly has maintained or even increased her listenership as compared to George Hook's figures. As far as I know, she has no family connections in either the media or, for that matter, in medicine. She got where she is by dint of hard work. Shouting from the sidelines about her or other journalists may give you some satisfaction, but it will be left to others to determine whether your points have any merit at all.

She has arrived on our airwaves at a time when media standards are in the toilet, I gave but one example, not just here in Ireland but across the developed world, which leave's ordinary people in a bind as to who or what to believe not an easy task for an ordinary person...when you have toxic group think in a media industry it affects all of us.

I leave you to your belief that there is nothing wrong...nothing to see here!

Silentcorner

Silentcorner wrote: »

She has arrived on our airwaves at a time when media standards are in the toilet,

She has arrived on our airwaves at a time when there has probably never been more competition for media jobs. Irish media has probably never been so professional as it is today.

It was predicted that her JNLR figures would plummet after the departure of George Hook. In fact they have stabilised or even risen. I suspect, on that basis, listeners disagree with you.

Silentcorner

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

She has arrived on our airwaves at a time when there has probably never been more competition for media jobs. Irish media has probably never been so professional as it is today.

It was predicted that her JNLR figures would plummet after the departure of George Hook. In fact they have stabilised or even risen. I suspect, on that basis, listeners disagree with you.

Right, we are poles apart on this one, the Irish media landscape will be a lot different in 10 years to what it is now, not because the industry is booming but because it is imploding...

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Silentcorner wrote: »

Right, we are poles apart on this one, the Irish media landscape will be a lot different in 10 years to what it is now, not because the industry is booming but because it is imploding...

You seemm very passionate in your view of the Irish market, I don't know why.

Lyric FM, Newstalk, Classic hits, Today FM are all national stations which have come on the scene within the last 20 years or so. Many regional stations have also formed and flourished over the same timeframe.

TG4 and Virgin Media also originated within that timeframe with the latter being taken over by Virgin Media.

These are not strong indications of an imploding scene.

Yes technology is impact the space because of streaming and in the radio sense, podcasts, but, one thing radio will always have over podcasts is the immediacy of the content. Quite often if you listen to a sports or current affairs podcast even 2 or 3 days after it is released, it is obsolete due to real world events having taken place.

monstermag

Ciara is hardly a wet week in the job and she seems to be off more than Pat.

jimmyw

monstermag wrote: »

Ciara is hardly a wet week in the job and she seems to be off more than Pat.

Well to be fair, most radio presenters even other stations,seem to have this perk, random days off, then maybe three weeks absent, nice work if you can get it. I think most jobs would be lucky to have 10 days.

redbuck

monstermag wrote: »

Ciara is hardly a wet week in the job and she seems to be off more than Pat.

Enjoy it while shes gone, I personally think Susan is a far superior upgrade to Dr Kelly.

Squall Leonhart

I don't.

While I may prefer her views and whatnot, her presenting style is weak. There just is no flow or naturalness to it.

That said I know who I'd rather have a coffee or pint with, Susan all the way.

monstermag

redbuck wrote: »

Enjoy it while shes gone, I personally think Susan is a far superior upgrade to Dr Kelly.

I was just thinking that the other day. She's a much better all rounder. I liked Ciara when she had that medical slot with George Hook nice bit of banter between them, but l can take or leave her lunchtime show.

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jimmyw wrote: »

Well to be fair, most radio presenters even other stations,seem to have this perk, random days off, then maybe three weeks absent, nice work if you can get it. I think most jobs would be lucky to have 10 days.

Don't know where you live but minimum annual leave in Ireland is 20 days/annum for a full time job.

jimmyw

Not a fan of Susan at all, a bit wooden if you like, robotic. It sounds like she trying to hurry up the guests by finishing the contributors sentences.
I prefer Ciara for the most part, even though I don't always agree with her, but at least she is open to other peoples view.

jimmyw

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Don't know where you live but minimum annual leave in Ireland is 20 days/annum for a full time job.

I live in a cabin in the woods.....ha! not including the Bank holidays, it does seem they get much more than that though.

meeeeh

I think very few presenters are able to make phone in programmes bearable. Ciara Kelly is good enough for me to last through the programme every so often, Susan Keogh is not. Neither is Andrea Gilligan. And George Hook was awful too when they attempted it when he took over midday slot. But in general I listen to the programme less now that is caller dominated. If I want to listen to someone who knows nothing about the subject they are talking about I'll talk to myself.

nullzero

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Don't know where you live but minimum annual leave in Ireland is 20 days/annum for a full time job.

I think what they meant was days taken off consecutively. A lot of employers prefer to limit employees to two weeks (ten working days) consecutive leave at a time maximum. Some employers don't mind but I've seen people arguing with companies over this issue and it seems reasonably common.

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meeeeh wrote: »

I think very few presenters are able to make phone in programmes bearable. Ciara Kelly is good enough for me to last through the programme every so often, Susan Keogh is not. Neither is Andrea Gilligan. And George Hook was awful too when they attempted it when he took over midday slot. But in general I listen to the programme less now that is caller dominated. If I want to listen to someone who knows nothing about the subject they are talking about I'll talk to myself.

Its non expert opinion (and is certainly evident at times) but is no harm to have on to give Joe Public the opportunity to say what their experience is on a matter.

'Experts' sometimes too obviously have a bias.
I wouldn't like to hear every NT show use the format but think it works given breakfast, Pat Kenny and Hard shoulder are full on normal current affairs discussion show and Moncrieff is sitting way outside the box.

Don't get the hatred for Susan Keogh. Find her more than capable.

meeeeh

jimmyw wrote: »

I live in a cabin in the woods.....ha! not including the Bank holidays, it does seem they get much more than that though.

Minimum leave is 20 plus bank/national holidays (Good Friday not one of them). Anyway they are contractors and I know Yates said he is only paid for shows he presents. They are not comparable to full time employees.

monstermag

I'm only guessing here but I'd imagine some of that leave could be media training. So she would be entitled to the same annual leave on top of training days as other employees at newstalk apart from Pat who obviously negotiated quite a nice contract (one of the perks of being headhunted)
Either way fair play if she can get 2,3,4 weeks it's all the same to me, l don't begrudge her, l suppose my point is Pat is missed when he's out whereby Ciara doesn't really have that X actor and her stand in is well able to fill her boots.

jeremyj1968

monstermag wrote: »

I'm only guessing here but I'd imagine some of that leave could be media training.

I honestly doubt she would take direction from anyone.

jimmyw

It's kinda silly that someone would be back today for just the one day in the week, but at least she is so I can start listening again......😋 ha!!

Del.Monte

Some fool on suggesting that Longford become the new capital of Ireland because its full of empty shops and industrial units - same as the rest of rural Ireland. I want Enniscorthy to be the new capital as it falls into that category - should I ring in. :rolleyes:

sydthebeat

Del.Monte wrote: »

Some fool on suggesting that Longford become the new capital of Ireland because its full of empty shops and industrial units - same as the rest of rural Ireland. I want Enniscorthy to be the new capital as it falls into that category - should I ring in. :rolleyes:

absolutely.... call in and make the argument.

someone on now referring to wicklow / north wexford and the commute to dublin.

Del.Monte

I must be some kind of superhero according to Susan as I moved to Co.Tipperary; Co.Leitrim, the Isle of Man and latterly Co.Wexford without knowing a soul in any of the locations.

JJayoo

Time to turn the radio off.

Remember when she would make the odd appearance on George Hook's show and laugh and fawn over all George's pervy comments, once she gets the job the fake outrage kicks in.

SEPT 23 1989

Lovely bit of balance today

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