Lunchtime Live with Ciara Kelly [Mod warning post #1]

Grolschevik

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Cudlihy on breakfast
Ciara Kelly
Moncrief

Not far left in that none want a workers revolution but perfectly in lock step with the whole cultural Marxist agenda

Bollocks. Read a book that isn't Peterson.

Do you have any idea what 'cultural Marxism' is supposed to be? Unless you're talking about the serious philosophy propounded in the 1930s, you're referencing a right-wing trope perpetuated by racists and incels. I'd think twice before using the term.

Mad_maxx

Grolschevik wrote: »

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Hang on let me re-post a rant broadcast by Newstalk only yesterday:

"Where is the body diversity, where are the fat Roses?

Where’s the socio-economic diversity? Where are the Roses from different kinds of backgrounds and different complicated family backgrounds?

Where is the Rose from the Travelling community or the Homeless rose? Where are the women who don’t have the degrees or the PhDs?"

Nothing far left about that eh? Haha righteo. What would you call it, fair and balanced?

Nope. That's mainstream right-on white woman liberal feminism. Nowhere near so-called 'far left'. Hillary Clinton could have said that.

If people think that's far left, their political centre must be way right of what the majority in this country believe.

It's classic middle class virtue signalling, it costs nothing, involves the one mouthing having to do nothing but improves their career prospects

It's still of the left culturally, the number of media leftists fighting economic wars could hardly fill a phone box in Ireland but the culture war has endless foot soldiers

Mad_maxx

Grolschevik wrote: »

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Cudlihy on breakfast
Ciara Kelly
Moncrief

Not far left in that none want a workers revolution but perfectly in lock step with the whole cultural Marxist agenda

Bollocks. Read a book that isn't Peterson.

Do you have any idea what 'cultural Marxism' is supposed to be? Unless you're talking about the serious philosophy propounded in the 1930s, you're referencing a right-wing trope perpetuated by racists and incels. I'd think twice before using the term.

Jordan peterson
Incels
Trope

Good bingo

Grolschevik

Mad_maxx wrote: »

It's classic middle class virtue signalling, it costs nothing, involves the one mouthing having to do nothing but improves their career prospects

It's still of the left culturally, the number of media leftists fighting economic wars could hardly fill a phone box in Ireland but the culture war has endless foot soldiers

Ironically, I agree with you on this! I disagree that they're leftist.

nullzero

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

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Parental leave
Irish law disallows the sharing of parental leave between both of a child's parents, mandating that only the female parent (if any) is allowed leave from work. This establishes a situation where only one parent is ordained as primary care-giver from the very beginning, and effectively cajoles the female into staying away from the workforce for longer. If she doesn't, the household will be down a significant level of income at a time which is very costly for young families.

Menopause
This topic was discussed on today's programme. There is no legislative provision available for women who are experiencing adverse symptoms of menopause to take leave from their employment or have their employment contracts temporarily amended. This is the case even where women can demonstrable proven side-effects of menopause, which effects are well-documented in scientific literature. Menopause doesn't affect men in this way, and if it did, I am certain there would be legislative provisions to allow people to take a break from work just as easily as if they were experiencing any other physical or mental symptoms.

Parental leave? Really?
I'm trying to imagine the benefits of women returning straight into the workforce after having a child so the child's father can take care of them instead,despite the father's inability to beast feed the child (yes I know milk can be expressed in advance but it isn't ideal) or the fact that men haven't evolved to be the primary care givers to infants and are less adept at it. Jesus I loved when my kids were tiny but my wife wanted things done her way with them until they were well over a year old.
Then there's baby brain, the hormonal changes in the body that make everyday tasks do difficult.
It is notable that in Ireland we only give maternity leave for the first six months of the childs life, other (scandanavian) countries tend to split parental leave over the course of two years, so we'd need massive changes in our system to meet those (admittedly preferable) standards.

And menopause? Yeah men don't suffer with that. And if we did there wouldn't be any legislative provisions made for it. As it happens men tend to suffer with severe mental health issues and have much higher rates of suicide, what legislative provisions have been made to tackle that particular issue?

Grolschevik

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Jordan peterson
Incels
Trope

Good bingo

Have you not noticed a pattern yet?

Grolschevik

I'm out of this ****.

Wrestling with pigs and all that.

monstermag

Noticeable that Susan got very little support from her colleagues if any at all. Not a dickie bird out of Ciara kelly. Yates wasn't impressed nor was Pat.

meeeeh

Does she need their support? What for? And frankly except Roses and a few men in this thread who like their women docile nobody really gives a damn. She is certainly not the first person criticising Rose of Tralee.

monstermag

meeeeh wrote: »

Does she need their support? What for? And frankly except Roses and a few men in this thread who like their women docile nobody really gives a damn. She is certainly not the first person criticising Rose of Tralee.

Stop degrading the women who by their choice freely participate in the Rose of Tralee. Are you sure you're not a misogynist.

Tell me how

monstermag wrote: »

Stop degrading the women who by their choice freely participate in the Rose of Tralee. Your a misogynist.

This post is so middle class virtue signalling.

Am I doing this right?

Grolschevik

Grolschevik wrote: »

Bollocks. Read a book that isn't Peterson.

Do you have any idea what 'cultural Marxism' is supposed to be? Unless you're talking about the serious philosophy propounded in the 1930s, you're referencing a right-wing trope perpetuated by racists and incels. I'd think twice before using the term.

Don't waste your time with anyone that uses the term 'cultural marxist'.

Jordan Peterson is currently cowering from Prof. Richard Wolff. They were to attend the same talk in Idaho not too long ago but when Peterson heard Wolff would be there he upped his speaking fee to a price far out of reach of the organisers.

Wolff has since said he would travel to a place of Peterson's convenience at any time to have a debate. Deathly silence from Charlatan Peterson.

jeremyj1968

Faugheen wrote: »

She called her an idiot, after Susan implied that Roses can’t stick up for themselves or speak out.

Did she really call her an idiot. This segment sounds pretty controversial, I might listen back to it.

Huntergonzo

Grolschevik wrote: »

I'm out of this ****.

Wrestling with pigs and all that.

We didn't come around to your point of view so you threw a garden variety insult and fécked off.......once again a favourite of the far left :-)

Mad_maxx

Grolschevik wrote: »

Mad_maxx wrote: »

It's classic middle class virtue signalling, it costs nothing, involves the one mouthing having to do nothing but improves their career prospects

It's still of the left culturally, the number of media leftists fighting economic wars could hardly fill a phone box in Ireland but the culture war has endless foot soldiers

Ironically, I agree with you on this! I disagree that they're leftist.

Different types of left and right

The left believe strongly in regulating everything, beit markets or speech and ideas, they are all about control

Keogh is annoyed these women are not all ivana baciks with a few travellers thrown in to show how "inclusive" the whole thing is

Mad_maxx

meeeeh wrote: »

Does she need their support? What for? And frankly except Roses and a few men in this thread who like their women docile nobody really gives a damn. She is certainly not the first person criticising Rose of Tralee.

Liberals are so condescending

Huntergonzo

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Liberals are so condescending

Personally I couldn't give a flying fúck about the Rose of Tralee, bar fleeting seconds here and there I've never watched it.

But whether the left likes it or not, Susan Keogh's rant reads like a sjw/feminist beginners manual, and Newstalk pumps this bile out all too often, that's what my point is here.

Also there was some bizarre comment made by meeeeh about liking docile women. Were all the women on the show docile, honest question and how is that even relevant anyway?

meeeeh

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Personally I couldn't give a flying fúck about the Rose of Tralee, bar fleeting seconds here and there I've never watched it.

But whether the left likes it or not, Susan Keogh's rant reads like a sjw/feminist beginners manual, and Newstalk pumps this bile out all too often, that's what my point is here.

Also there was some bizarre comment made by meeeeh about liking docile women. Were all the women on the show docile, honest question and how is that even relevant anyway?

Will judging by this thread you certainly don't like the women who voice their opinion.

sydthebeat

What's stopping the traveller community from entering???

Huntergonzo

meeeeh wrote: »

Will judging by this thread you certainly don't like the women who voice their opinion.

Depends on the opinion, I judge the content of the opinion, not the gender of the person expressing their opinion. A wild concept I know, but that's me.

For example, probably my most despised presenter on Newstalk is Shane Coleman.......he's a man would you believe.

Mad_maxx

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Liberals are so condescending

Personally I couldn't give a flying fúck about the Rose of Tralee, bar fleeting seconds here and there I've never watched it.

But whether the left likes it or not, Susan Keogh's rant reads like a sjw/feminist beginners manual, and Newstalk pumps this bile out all too often, that's what my point is here.

Also there was some bizarre comment made by meeeeh about liking docile women. Were all the women on the show docile, honest question and how is that even relevant anyway?

I wouldn't watch it if you paid me, nor would I watch horse racing or formula one for cash

I don't like to see any of them politicised however, everything is political to the current progressive left

Huntergonzo

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I wouldn't watch it if you paid me, nor would I watch horse racing or formula one for cash

I don't like to see any of them politicised however, everything is political to the current progressive left

I do enjoy horse racing I must say but I can't stand F1.

Anyway I think politics (particularily people's social views) should be as non invasive as possible.

For decades, this country was essentially a far right theocracy under the iron fist of the catholic church. Thankfully everybody eventually realized that this was all wrong and their influence dramatically faded.

However we have to be very careful not to allow the far left to take their place because they're every bit as bad.

Faugheen

jeremyj1968 wrote: »

Faugheen wrote: »

She called her an idiot, after Susan implied that Roses can’t stick up for themselves or speak out.

Did she really call her an idiot. This segment sounds pretty controversial, I might listen back to it.

Should rephrase, Kirsten Mate Maher called Susan an idiot, not the other way around.

Fan of Netflix

It's kind of ironic at the same that Susan Keogh attacks the Rose of Tralee and says doesn't represent modern Irish women and the roses don't stand up for themselves. And then Rose of Tralee Kirsten Maher, the first mixed race one ever, says she is an idiot and puts her back in her box. And the ex Australian Rose Brianna Parkins also had a go back. Poor Susan crawled back under her rock quickly. Delicious.

Mad_maxx

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I wouldn't watch it if you paid me, nor would I watch horse racing or formula one for cash

I don't like to see any of them politicised however, everything is political to the current progressive left

I do enjoy horse racing I must say but I can't stand F1.

Anyway I think politics (particularily people's social views) should be as non invasive as possible.

For decades, this country was essentially a far right theocracy under the iron fist of the catholic church. Thankfully everybody eventually realized that this was all wrong and their influence dramatically faded.

However we have to be very careful not to allow the far left to take their place because they're every bit as bad.

Ireland was never close to "far right", the church was involved in everything, I'll grant you that

Mad_maxx

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I wouldn't watch it if you paid me, nor would I watch horse racing or formula one for cash

I don't like to see any of them politicised however, everything is political to the current progressive left

I do enjoy horse racing I must say but I can't stand F1.

Anyway I think politics (particularily people's social views) should be as non invasive as possible.

For decades, this country was essentially a far right theocracy under the iron fist of the catholic church. Thankfully everybody eventually realized that this was all wrong and their influence dramatically faded.

However we have to be very careful not to allow the far left to take their place because they're every bit as bad.

Ireland was never close to "far right", the church was involved in everything, I'll grant you that

Fan of Netflix

It's also highly ironic Irish media types talking about diversity and representing modern Ireland etc. The Irish media must be the least diverse industry in Ireland. The vast vast majority are white. The vast majority are middle class and above. The vast majority are from Dublin or Greater Dublin (Susan Keogh = Kildare, Ciara Kelly = Greystones). Many of those in Irish media went to private schools. Many people in the Irish media are even related to each other. RTE is like a family business with the amount of nepotism.

Maybe so called journalists and media people should get their own house in order before lecturing others.

Huntergonzo

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Ireland was never close to "far right", the church was involved in everything, I'll grant you that

Unfortunately we were far right socially (extremely socially conservative if you like) under the watchful eyes of De Valera and McQuaid.

Tell me how

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

It's also highly ironic Irish media types talking about diversity and representing modern Ireland etc. The Irish media must be the least diverse industry in Ireland. The vast vast majority are white. The vast majority are middle class and above. The vast majority are from Dublin or Greater Dublin (Susan Keogh = Kildare, Ciara Kelly = Greystones). Many of those in Irish media went to private schools. Many people in the Irish media are even related to each other. RTE is like a family business with the amount of nepotism.

Maybe so called journalists and media people should get their own house in order before lecturing others.

You obviously didn't see what was said about Dil Wickremasinghe when she had a show there. Or probably did but choose to forget it.

The rest of your post reminds me of why I think so many complain so loudly about Irish media figures. I think it is routed in some form of jealousy. They see people getting paid to sit and pontificate about their opinions for 2 hours a day while the annoyed listener has to work a 9-5 somewhere.

Pretty much every thread about every show/presenter is the same. 'They're so bad', 'They only care about their opinion', 'what do they know', ' will they ever let someone finish'.

I don't like every show or presenter or think they are wonderful, wouldn't listen to Ryan Tubridy if he was sitting across from me for example and have a growing hatred for the home design show on NT on sunday morning.

But this complain, complain, complain is routed in something which has nothing to do with the person on the radio I reckon.

Fan of Netflix

Tell me how wrote: »

You obviously didn't see what was said about Dil Wickremasinghe when she had a show there. Or probably did but choose to forget it.

The rest of your post reminds me of why I think so many complain so loudly about Irish media figures. I think it is routed in some form of jealousy. They see people getting paid to sit and pontificate about their opinions for 2 hours a day while the annoyed listener has to work a 9-5 somewhere.

Pretty much every thread about every show/presenter is the same. 'They're so bad', 'They only care about their opinion', 'what do they know', ' will they ever let someone finish'.

I don't like every show or presenter or think they are wonderful, wouldn't listen to Ryan Tubridy if he was sitting across from me for example and have a growing hatred for the home design show on NT on sunday morning.

But this complain, complain, complain is routed in something which has nothing to do with the person on the radio I reckon.

This is just gaslighting. I am not jealous of them, I just find them irritating. Many radio presenters in Ireland don't deserve to be where they are. Ciara Kelly is a doctor that knew the right people. The new flavour of the month Doireann Garrihy is related to several people in RTE and media. She was supposedly hired because she has 20k followers on twitter. Pathetic.

They neither inform nor entertain. I do resent the fact that they have such a platform that is undeserved. And in the case of RTE we are funding this with obscene money.