Dublin City Marathon 29 Oct 2017 - *** NOTE: no number transfer!

Zebra3

Have signed up for this and will be starting in the first wave. Will be my fourth and final marathon of the year.

They tweeted two days ago that there's less than 2,000 spots left. Anyone know how many spaces are open this year? Will it break the 20,000 mark? Is it the fourth biggest marathon in Europe now?

chrislad

Last I saw, there was 1,000 spots left. I expect a sold out announcement by midweek. Fair dues to them. I've done it the past two years, but I'm giving it a miss in favour of Berlin a month earlier this year. Both times, it was very well organised with amazing support. If you're on the fence, I highly recommend (the event, the pains of a marathon less so... )

ooter

Last year was the first time it sold out and this year it's going to sell out almost 2 months sooner than it did last year, the move to Sunday has been a huge success.

Zebra3

Yeh, the move to Sunday was fantastic. Waking up the following day and being able to have a lie-in....

Great with that respect for locals, the fact that it's not a public holiday abroad on the Monday must have been so off putting for people flying in from abroad and even for folks up north.

FutureGuy

Signed up today. I'm probably OK in terms of my training right now so I can jump onto a training plan. Running twice during week and up to 8 miles on Sunday.

Going to add 2 miles into the midweek schedule and go out Tues, Wed, Thu, Sat, Sun.

Rockyman7

even less entries left now....the team of 50 pacers have just entered...

Djoucer

Looking forward to the FB comments when it sells out.

Personal fav is the "but I raised money for charity already."

Dublin marathon have been superb in keeping people updated.

Should be a great race given the numbers.

Itziger

Zebra3 wrote: »

Have signed up for this and will be starting in the first wave. Will be my fourth and final marathon of the year.

They tweeted two days ago that there's less than 2,000 spots left. Anyone know how many spaces are open this year? Will it break the 20,000 mark? Is it the fourth biggest marathon in Europe now?

That's an incredible jump in numbers. I doubt it would be top 4. Some big ones out there. London, Berlin, Paris, Rotterdam, Frankfurt, Vienna, Barcelona????

Ones that mix Full and Half make it harder sometimes to count.

Van.Bosch

<500 places left

RayCun

Itziger wrote: »

That's an incredible jump in numbers. I doubt it would be top 4. Some big ones out there. London, Berlin, Paris, Rotterdam, Frankfurt, Vienna, Barcelona????

Ones that mix Full and Half make it harder sometimes to count.

London, Berlin, Paris are all bigger

Rotterdam about 13,000 in the marathon
Frankfurt 15,000
Barcelona 16,000
Vienna somewhere around there

but add in the other races and the others would be bigger events

Itziger

RayCun wrote: »

London, Berlin, Paris are all bigger

Rotterdam about 13,000 in the marathon
Frankfurt 15,000
Barcelona 16,000
Vienna somewhere around there

but add in the other races and the others would be bigger events

Yeah, I did a bit of research after posting and was surprised at some of the numbers. Watch out for Valencia, growing by the year, kinda similar to Dublin. I'd be interested in seeing the difference between numbers registered, starters and finishers.

So, is Dublin cut off 20,000?

RayCun

Itziger wrote: »

Yeah, I did a bit of research after posting and was surprised at some of the numbers. Watch out for Valencia, growing by the year, kinda similar to Dublin. I'd be interested in seeing the difference between numbers registered, starters and finishers.

So, is Dublin cut off 20,000?

yeah, 20k afaik

probably about 17k starting, I suppose the further away the entry closes, the more likely it is that people's plans will change

Gillo

Djoucer wrote: »

Looking forward to the FB comments when it sells out

People have had plenty of warning, I've said it to someone I know a couple of times and guaranteed they'll still miss the cut off.

That said I've just searched my inbox for my confirmation email to be sure I'd definitely entered. I'm looking forward to it at this stage despite my training being a lot lower than last year.

Arsenium

Decided not to do it this year after doing it the last few years. Just wanted to work on other stuff instead of committing to a block of marathon training. Still though....as the deadline looms large....I'm starting to get real pangs of nostalgia and regret...I think it's best if I turn off the internet till they close it off :-)

kin9pin

Gillo wrote: »

People have had plenty of warning, I've said it to someone I know a couple of times and guaranteed they'll still miss the cut off.

That said I've just searched my inbox for my confirmation email to be sure I'd definitely entered. I'm looking forward to it at this stage despite my training being a lot lower than last year.

Can you remind me who the confirmation email was from? I'm having trouble finding mine. 99.9999999% sure I did register!

It's ok, found it

Gillo

kin9pin wrote: »

Can you remind me who the confirmation email was from? I'm having trouble finding mine. 99.9999999% sure I did register!

It's ok, found it

Just in case anyone else panics confirmation@eventmaster.ie

El Caballo

is the course the same as 2014 or have they made any changes?

Singer

El Caballo wrote: »

is the course the same as 2014 or have they made any changes?

There were a few minor changes made in 2015, and they've been kept since. Up Manor St. and sideways into the park rather than just all the way up Chesterfield, but then a straighter finish to Merrion St. from Merrion Road.

Well described here:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=97463033&postcount=6885

Phoebas

Only 150 entries left and they expect it to sell out today, according to FB.

The Black Oil

Down to 250 places, apparently.

https://twitter.com/dublinmarathon/status/884867102338940929

My second go at it this year. Can't wait.

RubyK

Sold out

RayCun

and the timer starts... now!

dintbo

RayCun wrote: »

and the timer starts... now!

I can't believe I missed it! It's definitely sold out? And I've raised all this money for.....

nah only kidding. I entered months ago. Roll on October

chris85

Selling out 3 and a half months early is fairly good going. The move to a Sunday and a well organised day is working well for the event. Looking forward to first Dublin marathon and first full race series this year. Should be fun.

Wubble Wubble

RayCun wrote: »

and the timer starts... now!

109 days to go

ooter

Jaysus it wasn't that long ago you could register in October without any bother, just shows how popular the event has become.

ariana`

Wubble Wubble wrote: »

109 days to go

:eek:

Arsenium

ooter wrote: »

Jaysus it wasn't that long ago you could register in October without any bother, just shows how popular the event has become.

Hi all, I'm looking for an entry for DCM 2017 if anyone has any going......

Sorry..joke....not serious.....

Working class heroes

Are they taking entries on the day?

chrislad

Working class heroes wrote: »

Are they taking entries on the day?

No.

ger664

On Facebook as sold out. Had been well notified that it would sell out so no one should have any complaints.

On a side note how big can they safely make this ?

HibernianRunner

I registered yesterday evening having read this thread. Was gonna leave it until August to see how my training was going. Just as well.

Zebra3

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/the-dublin-marathon-has-now-sold-out-1.3152270?mode=amp

Fifth biggest marathon in Europe according to this piece.

slowsteady

Arsenium wrote: »

Hi all, I'm looking for an entry for DCM 2017 if anyone has any going......

Sorry..joke....not serious.....

Trade one for an Ed Sheeran ticket......

Booked in a rush of blood on 1st Jan. Now laid up since Manchester Marathon in April with plantar fasciitis......

Maybe settle for a hurling final ticket now that Kilkenny are not in it:P:P

Only joking about the tickets, not the pf unfortunately

youngrun

Elite entry likely the only route in,

unless you go via a tour operator from abroad

Gillo

ger664 wrote: »

On a side note how big can they safely make this ?

I was wondering the same myself, theoretically they could stage more starts, but that'd lead to later finishers and roads being closed longer into the day (realistically it's more than one day a year for residents of affected area's as other events lead to road closures too).
More marshals would be required too, not to mention the additional space around Merrion Square and Fitzwilliam Street / Baggot Street.
It'd be great if they could fit more people on but I imagine it's harder than it sounds.

Glad now I booked early despite being worried about being able to get all the training in (double jobbing & college make it tricky to fit loads of training in)

youngrun

ger664 wrote: »

On Facebook as sold out. Had been well notified that it would sell out so no one should have any complaints.

On a side note how big can they safely make this ?

Probably going to lose 3000 entrants anyway from the 20k so 17/18k is as big as current route manages?

Last year 16762 finishers of a 19500 entry

Havent done it in a number of years I think there were 10k back then or so, would imagine its pretty crowded in midpack as there are still not many sub 3

Murph_D

It's terrific that Dublin Marathon is a sell out event, year after year. There is capacity to develop a bigger field by increasing the commitment to closing roads, but that requires a degree of political will and a bit of political clout. Sell-out numbers deliver that clout, and hopefully the event will get even bigger. It just goes to show that you don't need an easy course to attract the crowds.

RayCun

youngrun wrote: »

Havent done it in a number of years I think there were 10k back then or so, would imagine its pretty crowded in midpack as there are still not many sub 3

There's always a huge bump in the number of finishers around four hours. Even with more waves, proof of times required for faster waves, etc etc to spread people out, that four hour pace group would be like a pig being swallowed by a snake

Gillo

As it's chip timed you could theoretically have two four hour groups to reduce the bottle necks; say if group A started at 9:20 and group B started at 9:30 or 9:35. The problem would be trying to actually implement something like that on the morning as the vast majority of peopl will want to be in the first group.

BeepBeep67

Gillo wrote: »

As it's chip timed you could theoretically have two four hour groups to reduce the bottle necks; say if group A started at 9:20 and group B started at 9:30 or 9:35. The problem would be trying to actually implement something like that on the morning as the vast majority of peopl will want to be in the first group.

Unintentionally piloted that approach with 1:40 groups in the half last year :pac:

ger664

youngrun wrote: »

Probably going to lose 3000 entrants anyway from the 20k so 17/18k is as big as current route manages?

Last year 16762 finishers of a 19500 entry

Havent done it in a number of years I think there were 10k back then or so, would imagine its pretty crowded in midpack as there are still not many sub 3

My thinking is that the powers that be think that they can handle 20,000 runners. I am assuming they have to plan for everyone turning up thats has entered. Realistically 18,000 is probably what will toe the line. If they are not taking drops into consideration then they could increase the entry to 22,500 as it stands.

youngrun

ger664 wrote: »

My thinking is that the powers that be think that they can handle 20,000 runners. I am assuming they have to plan for everyone turning up thats has entered. Realistically 18,000 is probably what will toe the line. If they are not taking drops into consideration then they could increase the entry to 22,500 as it stands.

I think there should be a transfer market/window for race entries, going to be thousands unused , and both race organisers and possible entrants can benefit financially and running wise respectively

Im sure online systems can handle this, have used a transfer in a couple of events myself. also safer than having bandits taking on the route etc

RayCun

More of an argument for it now, alright, with entries closing so much earlier.

at the same time, most big city marathons (London, new york, Paris, Berlin) don't allow transfers. A certain drop-out rate is expected.

Frankfurt allows transfers, for 10 euro
Marine Corps marathon allows transfers, for $50
Edinburgh charges £15

None of them give the original entrant their money back.

If DCM introduced a 20 euro transfer fee, how many people would even bother paying it? People swap numbers now, when it is against the rules, wouldn't they just keep swapping directly without paying the fee?

Hitman3000

Gillo wrote:

As it's chip timed you could theoretically have two four hour groups to reduce the bottle necks; say if group A started at 9:20 and group B started at 9:30 or 9:35. The problem would be trying to actually implement something like that on the morning as the vast majority of peopl will want to be in the first group.

Berlin has done this. Started pace groups in different time zones. Last year for example 2 3.45 pacers in zone E and 2 in zone F.

ger664

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Berlin has done this. Started pace groups in different time zones. Last year for example 2 3.45 pacers in zone E and 2 in zone F.

Yes but pacers will get the grief from runners who started in the second group catching up with the first group and them complain that they went to fast when they blow in the second half.

Hitman3000

ger664 wrote:

Yes but pacers will get the grief from runners who started in the second group catching up with the first group and them complain that they went to fast when they blow in the second half.

Up to the organisation to explain this. Berlin didn't do it or the participants missed the announcement.

normanoffside

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Berlin has done this. Started pace groups in different time zones. Last year for example 2 3.45 pacers in zone E and 2 in zone F.

I wouldn't copy Berlin, pacers are fairly poor quality over there compared to Dublin.
Better to have 3 or 4 pacers together as if one has a problem you are not left with one on their own in such a big Marathon.

youngrun

RayCun wrote: »

More of an argument for it now, alright, with entries closing so much earlier.

at the same time, most big city marathons (London, new york, Paris, Berlin) don't allow transfers. A certain drop-out rate is expected.

Frankfurt allows transfers, for 10 euro
Marine Corps marathon allows transfers, for $50
Edinburgh charges £15

None of them give the original entrant their money back.

If DCM introduced a 20 euro transfer fee, how many people would even bother paying it? People swap numbers now, when it is against the rules, wouldn't they just keep swapping directly without paying the fee?

I d say a good few would. Have organised a few races and it is always a common question/request .People wouldnt mind paying if they want to run badly enough. Give a window that doesnt cause admin hassle .

aero2k

RayCun wrote: »

More of an argument for it now, alright, with entries closing so much earlier.

at the same time, most big city marathons (London, new york, Paris, Berlin) don't allow transfers. A certain drop-out rate is expected.

Frankfurt allows transfers, for 10 euro
Marine Corps marathon allows transfers, for $50
Edinburgh charges £15

None of them give the original entrant their money back.

If DCM introduced a 20 euro transfer fee, how many people would even bother paying it? People swap numbers now, when it is against the rules, wouldn't they just keep swapping directly without paying the fee?

I don't know if they still do it, but in 2015 Rotterdam allowed you to pay €5 extra when entering, which would allow a refund of the entry fee up to one month before the race in the event you needed to cancel for any reason.

RacoonQueen

RayCun wrote: »

More of an argument for it now, alright, with entries closing so much earlier.

at the same time, most big city marathons (London, new york, Paris, Berlin) don't allow transfers. A certain drop-out rate is expected.

Frankfurt allows transfers, for 10 euro
Marine Corps marathon allows transfers, for $50
Edinburgh charges £15

None of them give the original entrant their money back.

If DCM introduced a 20 euro transfer fee, how many people would even bother paying it? People swap numbers now, when it is against the rules, wouldn't they just keep swapping directly without paying the fee?

I think you'd get a lot of people paying the fee so they can have their result in their own name.