US considering Preemptive Strike against North Korea.

CoolHandBandit

CoolHandBandit wrote: »

I do hope somehow North Korean military leaders can organise a coup to overthrow their leader before it all goes pear shaped.

No chance. Kim has been ruthless in executing any who even think of opposing him. And apparently nobody knows where he hangs out.
Ever notice that when he visits a facility all the generals have little notebooks to write down every word Kim says?

archer22

archer22 wrote: »

You most certainly are not...judging by posts I have seen on foreign websites, it looks like a large proportion of humanity hopes he gives the orange clowns thugs a hiding.

Posts on foreign websites?

Snigger.

North Korea is the sick man of the world. Friendless, sitting in the corner, everyone else thinks it's weird. And worst of all, one of those weirdoes with a misplaced superiority complex.

Dubh Linn

Right, but what makes this latest threat any different. NK launches a missile test, US says this, that and the other, blah blah blah, then everything is back to square one again. Can somebody not just do something about it before NK upsets the wrong person or makes another big mistake...

Noddyholder

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

Am I the only person rooting for mr Kim ?

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

He's the better of two evils to be fair

No I would say you would have many supporters here, On boards its like anything but America, even if its a fecking lunatic who has been screaming and test firing rockets & missiles for years now, Its about time someone put this Mad monk to bed.

netherlands15

Deleted User wrote: »

Posts on foreign websites?

Snigger.

North Korea is the sick man of the world. Friendless, sitting in the corner, everyone else thinks it's weird. And worst of all, one of those weirdoes with a misplaced superiority complex.

as kim jong il once said,

all criticism is self-criticism

ChikiChiki

netherlands15 wrote: »

i agree with you and was not joking,

a test is scheduled for saturday,

So tomorrow it is. Neither side will back down. How can anybody state it won't affect us? That's a very narrow minded view. Nuclear war would be catastrophic for the whole planet. Destruction, death, destroyed economies. I believe we are now at the closest point to all out nuclear war since the cuban missile crisis.

It seems hyperbolic writing that, but I am taking into account we do not have rational thinking people in power.

Noddyholder

Silane wrote: »

Seems very strange to me that America dropped it's first MOAB yesterday, on caves in Afghanistan. Those things are ridiculously expensive, why bother wasting it on a few terrorists on Afghanistan?, it's basically playing the worlds most expensive game whack-a-mole.
I think they were testing it out before dropping them on North Korea, possibly as a follow up to bunker buster attacks on the nuclear facilities.

The price or expense of war does not enter into it, Sure hasn't India & Pakistan got nuclear weapons & quite big armed forces yet they find it hard to feed there populations.

Silane

ChikiChiki wrote: »

So tomorrow it is. Neither side will back down. How can anybody state it won't affect us? That's a very narrow minded view. Nuclear war would be catastrophic for the whole planet. Destruction, death, destroyed economies. I believe we are now at the closest point to all out nuclear war since the cuban missile crisis.

How will there be a nuclear war? North Korea don't have ICBM's, there's nothing to suggest they have miniaturised warheads to launch against anybody.

Noddyholder

ChikiChiki wrote: »

So tomorrow it is. Neither side will back down. How can anybody state it won't affect us? That's a very narrow minded view. Nuclear war would be catastrophic for the whole planet. Destruction, death, destroyed economies. I believe we are now at the closest point to all out nuclear war since the cuban missile crisis.

You could be right, but what can one do ? NK has to be brought down, Every month there dear leader is getting more brazen & crazy,he murdered his own brother last month for being disloyal, Its now or never with him, I rather it now.

Dubh Linn

Dubh Linn wrote: »

Right, but what makes this latest threat any different. NK launches a missile test, US says this, that and the other, blah blah blah, then everything is back to square one again.

Except that they are making very rapid progress and having nuclear missiles capable of striking California is coming up fast.

Dubh Linn wrote: »

Can somebody not just do something about it before NK upsets the wrong person or makes another big mistake...

This was Obama's strategy. He hoped China would do this, but Kim basically ignored them.

Dubh Linn

What N Korea needs is a coup. A coup that will actually work this time. Turkey was a lot less harsh than NK with their coup, and even now a Turkish referendum might change all that...

Back to NK, the soldiers and the people need to rise up and do it now.


Come to think of it, now that I have posted this, I probably will never get into NK ever, not that I ever intended to go there. However, that might change if the dictatorship is overthrown, which is unlikely to ever happen!

ChikiChiki

Silane wrote: »

How will there be a nuclear war? North Korea don't have ICBM's, there's nothing to suggest they have miniaturised warheads to launch against anybody.

Syria is a hotbed at the minute too. Trump is picking too many fights.

Caparison

Nothings gonna happen lads . Shettle down hye . Be grand . There just havin the craic

archer22

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Explain how someone who keeps millions of people in labour camps and does nothing to better the situation of their own populace is the better of two evils?

Try reading out America's charge sheet...genocide, slavery, imperial wars, concentration camps, wars of aggression, nuclear attacks, chemical weapons use on a vast scale (agent orange), using depleted uranium, using phosphorous, more wars of aggression, supporting genocide of Palestinians both by weapons supplies and at UN.

Sorry what's that you said North Korea had done again? :rolleyes:

Dubh Linn

Let's see, Trump's hit list at the moment:

Assad
Kim
Putin
ISIS

What else?

Silane

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Syria is a hotbed at the minute too. Trump is picking too many fights.

He made a point in Syria, that chemical weapons wouldn't be tolerated. It was a measured response, Russia were warned in advance to avoid casualties, I think that was a smart, reasonable thing to do. It made the point effectively, drew attention to the issue, but didn't draw the US into the wider conflict.

Here again with NK, now is the time to stop this lunatic, and the US response is drawing China in to correct it. There's a carrier strike group heading to NK, not an invasion force, maybe nothing will come of it, but the point is made that China need to act one way or another now.

Silane

Dubh Linn wrote: »

Let's see, Trump's hit list at the moment:

Assad
Kim
Putin
ISIS

What else?

CNN

ChikiChiki

archer22 wrote: »

Try reading out America's charge sheet...genocide, slavery, imperial wars, concentration camps, wars of aggression, nuclear attacks, chemical weapons use on a vast scale (agent orange), using depleted uranium, using phosphorous, more wars of aggression, supporting genocide of Palestinians both by weapons supplies and at UN.

Sorry what's that you said North Korea had done again? :rolleyes:

Whats the craic with the rolly eyes? I'm by no means a big fan of the United States in fact quite the opposite. I'm aware of all that you have mentioned.

Kim wants to keep his populace enslaved in 2017. They deserve better.

archer22

Silane wrote: »

He made a point in Syria, that chemical weapons wouldn't be tolerated. It was a measured response, Russia were warned in advance to avoid casualties, I think that was a smart, reasonable thing to do. It made the point effectively, drew attention to the issue, but didn't draw the US into the wider conflict.

Here again with NK, now is the time to stop this lunatic, and the US response is drawing China in to correct it. There's a carrier strike group heading to NK, not an invasion force, maybe nothing will come of it, but the point is made that China need to act one way or another now.

China does not give a fock about America and will not be dictated to by them..if it comes to war they will support North Korea.

And China has the technology to sink that piddly little carrier group in a few hours

Noddyholder

archer22 wrote: »

Try reading out America's charge sheet...genocide, slavery, imperial wars, concentration camps, wars of aggression, nuclear attacks, chemical weapons use on a vast scale (agent orange), using depleted uranium, using phosphorous, more wars of aggression, supporting genocide of Palestinians both by weapons supplies and at UN.

Sorry what's that you said North Korea had done again? :rolleyes:

For all its faults & mistakes I would rather be on the US side then NK, China, & Russia any day of the week.

Noddyholder

archer22 wrote: »

China does not give a fock about America and will not be dictated to by them..if it comes to war they will support North Korea.

And China has the technology to sink that piddly little carrier group in a few hours

Really :rolleyes::rolleyes: Do you really think there going to do that or is your obvious anti US stance blinding you from reality.

Piddly little carrier group You haven't a clue mate, good luck chairman archer.

Noddyholder

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Syria is a hotbed at the minute too. Trump is picking too many fights.

None of these :fights: are new , But instead of just ignoring them & letting them kindle, there is a new approach, like he said there would be. Whether it works or not I don't know, but there will be an outcome.

archer22

archer22 wrote: »

You most certainly are not...judging by posts I have seen on foreign websites, it looks like a large proportion of humanity hopes he gives the orange clowns thugs a hiding.

A classic case of "An enemy of my enemy is my friend!", dangerous thinking at it's worst.

Dubh Linn

Can Trump not just invade Syria and get it over and done with?

Noddyholder

Dubh Linn wrote: »

Let's see, Trump's hit list at the moment:

Assad
Kim
Putin
ISIS

What else?

But according to folks here a month ago putin was his friend & ally who helped get him elected

Noddyholder

Dubh Linn wrote: »

Can Trump not just invade Syria and get it over and done with?

Get what over & done with, The middle east has been in uproar since the end of ww2.

Dubh Linn

I would say that Trump could just nuke the entire place but...

skankkuvhima

Noddyholder wrote: »

But according to folks here a month ago putin was his friend & ally who helped get him elected

Ya I thought the same? I wonder were those folks full of BS?

Dubh Linn

Like I said, somebody needs to take action on NK.

wes

North Korea would almost immediately wipe Seoul out with conventional weapons. So a pre-emptive strikes could only really be justified if North Korea were about to attack. A nuclear test, which have happened before, isn't really reason enought to start another Korean war.