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My beautiful racist girlfriend

  • 07-01-2017 7:57pm
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    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭


    Long story short, I've started seeing a girl who has recently come out with some pretty racist remarks.

    She's a well educated, otherwise intelligent, fun and interesting person. Strangely for a racist, she's fairly well travelled and has lots of interesting opinions. But she is openly racist towards one particular foreign nationality.

    Her attitude stinks, and I've tried talking to her but she is unapologetic.

    What would you guys do? Is this a deal breaker for most people? It's a deal breaker for me in terms of any kind of on going relationships but most of my male friends think it's an overreaction.

    I'm not going to post details of her specific bigotry because would turn into an ugly debate on that nationality and probably a defence of her opinion.

    I'm just curious as to whether a racist attitude would cause AHers to break up with someone

    Should he dump her 197 votes

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    No
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Absolutely. Dropped like a hot spud.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭clairewithani


    Long story short, I've started seeing a girl who has recently come out with some pretty racist remarks.

    She's a well educated, otherwise intelligent, fun and interesting person. Strangely for a racist, she's fairly well travelled and has lots of interesting opinions. But she is openly racist towards one particular foreign nationality.

    Her attitude stinks, and I've tried talking to her but she is unapologetic.

    What would you guys do? Is this a deal breaker for most people? It's a deal breaker for me in terms of any kind of on going relationships but most of my male friends think it's an overreaction.

    I'm not going to post details of her specific bigotry because would turn into an ugly debate on that nationality and probably a defence of her opinion.

    I'm just curious as to whether a racist attitude would cause AHers to break up with someone

    Beauty fades. Bigotry/racism makes a person ugly in my view. Definitely a deal breaker for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,299 ✭✭✭hairyprincess


    Are her reasons justified? Has she experience of this race?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Lackey


    You will have to define what you mean by racist, the word has lost all meaning lately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Get away from this relationship pronto.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    I'd need to see a photo of the racist in question before I could offer a relevant opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,921 ✭✭✭buried


    Drop the hate.

    Make America Get Out of Here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭neonsofa


    Are her reasons justified? Has she experience of this race?

    Well unless she's had experience of the whole entire race that's irrelevant. Racism is never justified.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Are her reasons justified? Has she experience of this race?
    she cites plenty of bad experiences but nothing outstanding. Getting ripped off by a few Euro etc.

    To thw person who asked what I mean by racist, I'm not naming the nationality but yes it's clearly racism. We're not talking a qualified opinion on "some people from x", etc. She wants none of these people in the country


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,647 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    But she is openly racist towards one particular foreign nationality.
    Sounds like nationalism more than racism. You won't hear my Greek parent (or ex Greek Air force uncle) say a single nice thing about a Turk, (I suspect Armenians are the same way), Koreans have...issues.. with Japanese simply because they are Japanese, plenty of folks from Ireland have had issues with the English, not many Arabs will say good things about Israelis...
    These aren't racist opinions, they are based on national history. Racism is an opinion of superiority or better worth than someone because of skin color or ethnicity. Nationalism doesn't care about race, but definitely cares about the society that they come from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭The Raptor


    Sounds like a hypocrite for someone that has traveled. Did she think she was loved wherever she went. But she thinks it's OK to be racist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    How beautiful exactly?





    Come on, we're all thinking it


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Can a person be a good person and have a prejudice?

    I think they can, plenty of people I grew up with were racist or homophobic, it was simply the norm 20 years ago. I wouldn't share their views but it wouldn't make me write them off as people either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Ferrari3600



    I'm just curious as to whether a racist attitude would cause AHers to break up with someone


    Absolutely not, within certain limits.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,211 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Would ya put up with it for the ride?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 173 ✭✭HenryHill


    My girlfriend has views like this about Africans and I don't blame her to be honest.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sounds like nationalism more than racism. You won't hear my Greek parent (or ex Greek Air force uncle) say a single nice thing about a Turk, (I suspect Armenians are the same way), Koreans have...issues.. with Japanese simply because they are Japanese, plenty of folks from Ireland have had issues with the English, not many Arabs will say good things about Israelis...
    These aren't racist opinions, they are based on national history. Racism is an opinion of superiority or better worth than someone because of skin color or ethnicity. Nationalism doesn't care about race, but definitely cares about the society that they come from.

    That's not really what nationalism is
    I'm not going to get into semantics but if you're characterizing an entire people, be they a nationality or a skin tone, as having identical and uniformly negative characteristics, that's racism
    Or at least, it's ethically and morally equivalent to racism.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Dr Crayfish


    She wants none of these people in the country

    If it's the people I'm thinking of, none of us want them here!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    HenryHill wrote: »
    My girlfriend has views like this about Africans and I don't blame her to be honest.

    The whole continent like?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Robsweezie


    Contact BBC or channel 4 and try get a documentary out of it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 173 ✭✭HenryHill


    The whole continent like?

    No it's the black ones.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭The Raptor


    HenryHill wrote: »
    My girlfriend has views like this about Africans and I don't blame her to be honest.

    Is it black Africans or white Africans or just all Africans?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭JamboMac


    Long story short, I've started seeing a girl who has recently come out with some pretty racist remarks.

    She's a well educated, otherwise intelligent, fun and interesting person. Strangely for a racist, she's fairly well travelled and has lots of interesting opinions. But she is openly racist towards one particular foreign nationality.

    Her attitude stinks, and I've tried talking to her but she is unapologetic.

    What would you guys do? Is this a deal breaker for most people? It's a deal breaker for me in terms of any kind of on going relationships but most of my male friends think it's an overreaction.

    I'm not going to post details of her specific bigotry because would turn into an ugly debate on that nationality and probably a defence of her opinion.

    I'm just curious as to whether a racist attitude would cause AHers to break up with someone

    Why are you asking a question, when you've already decided for yourself. If you can't put up with it then leave, none of us can define whether she's really racist or not as all we have is your opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭EIREDriver


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    I'd need to see a photo of the racist in question before I could offer a relevant opinion.

    Need more info from OP.

    1) Photo of racist
    2) Nationality she doesn't like
    3) Contact details / Phone number of racist

    Seriously though if it bugs you a lot and her thoughts aren't valid at all probably best to end it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭The Raptor


    HenryHill wrote: »
    No it's the black ones.

    You should give her a black eye.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 163 ✭✭hannible the cannible


    It wouldn't bother me unless she was out in the middle of the night burning crosses in someone's garden , I mean I'm kinda racist myself but I'd draw the line at getting up in the middle of the night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭nostro


    Is intolerance towards racists not in and of itself racist. What you're really saying OP is that we are intolerant of her views because you do not agree with them.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 163 ✭✭hannible the cannible


    The Raptor wrote: »
    You should give her a black eye.

    Did you just advocate domestic violence ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    JamboMac wrote: »
    Why are you asking a question, when you've already decided for yourself. If you can't put up with it then leave, none of us can define whether she's really racist or not as all we have is your opinion.

    Spot on, she clearly deserves better.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    I'm aware of that

    I'm not asking for personal advice. I had a conversation with some male colleagues who felt that racist attitude wasn't a sufficient reason to end a new relationship.

    I'm curious as to whether that's a common view to hold


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    I've learned that eventually time makes us all prejudice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭foxatron


    If you said who she dislikes you might get a better picture of other peoples opinions on them as well. You never know she might be in the majority and not the minority....but I doubt it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭Four Phucs Ache


    If she was an employee in an organisation and dealt with the public and a colleague overheard her views and reported her she would be spoken to.

    Not acceptable and by posting your issue it screams that your uncomfortable.

    A for dropping her , she is allowed her views and opinions as is everyone but if it's a deal breaker for you than let go.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    I'm aware of that

    I'm not asking for personal advice. I had a conversation with some male collwagues who thought a racist attitude wasn't a sufficientreason to end a new relationship.

    I'm curious as to whether that's a common view to hold

    It depends.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    nostro wrote: »
    Is intolerance towards racists not in and of itself racist
    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭EIREDriver


    Photograph of "beautiful girlfriend" and one of her mates.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    EIREDriver wrote: »
    Need more info from OP.

    1) Photo of racist
    2) Nationality she doesn't like
    3) Contact details / Phone number of racist

    Seriously though if it bugs you a lot and her thoughts aren't valid at all probably best to end it.

    The OP needs to test his resolve on this issue fully ........... I'd suggest that, the next time he's having intercourse with the racist, he pulls out around 30-20 second mark before the point of orgasm and say "We need to talk........" .......... if he can do that then he should break up with her as it's obviously something he can't ignore and/or get over, if he can't then he's weak and deserves a life of sexual bliss with this monster!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭The Raptor


    Did you just advocate domestic violence ?

    Was that a bit too much?


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Long story short, I've started seeing a girl who has recently come out with some pretty racist remarks.

    She's a well educated, otherwise intelligent, fun and interesting person. Strangely for a racist, she's fairly well travelled and has lots of interesting opinions. But she is openly racist towards one particular foreign nationality.

    Her attitude stinks, and I've tried talking to her but she is unapologetic.

    What would you guys do? Is this a deal breaker for most people? It's a deal breaker for me in terms of any kind of on going relationships but most of my male friends think it's an overreaction.

    I'm not going to post details of her specific bigotry because would turn into an ugly debate on that nationality and probably a defence of her opinion.

    I'm just curious as to whether a racist attitude would cause AHers to break up with someone


    Something tells me we'll see you in this thread soon :pac:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057686488&page=39


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    Relationship? You already know it's going nowhere by posting a question on a public forum. So you're really asking how long do the benefits outweigh the fact that you find this person repellent? Depends on you and how needy you are for the benefits.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    My missus wasn't particularly racist. Then about 5 years ago she started driving. Now, with plenty of near misses and incidents, she is very racist!:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    EIREDriver wrote: »
    Photograph of "beautiful girlfriend" and one of her mates.

    I'd drop those two racist scum in a heartbeat!!!

    This one however ............... http://www.thefrisky.com/2013-12-10/tila-tequila-is-now-a-nazi-sympathizer-who-calls-herself-hitila/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Hey op,
    I know you don't want to go into all the details. But is there anything more you can say?

    I ask that because your friends say it isn't a big deal. But you say it is. So any example you can give?
    It's hard to take a side when most of the details aren't said.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 163 ✭✭hannible the cannible


    The Raptor wrote: »
    Was that a bit too much?

    I didn't realise there was an acceptable amount of it , my apologies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    Her boyfriend is an idiot ........... and so is she!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Sounds like nationalism more than racism. You won't hear my Greek parent (or ex Greek Air force uncle) say a single nice thing about a Turk, (I suspect Armenians are the same way), Koreans have...issues.. with Japanese simply because they are Japanese, plenty of folks from Ireland have had issues with the English, not many Arabs will say good things about Israelis...
    These aren't racist opinions, they are based on national history. Racism is an opinion of superiority or better worth than someone because of skin color or ethnicity. Nationalism doesn't care about race, but definitely cares about the society that they come from.

    It's still racism of a sort. There's a clearer/historical reason for it but it's racism. If you dislike one person, not based on the person they are but because of their country/ethnicity/race then you're a bigot/racist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    Hey op,
    I know you don't want to go into all the details. But is there anything more you can say?

    I ask that because your friends say it isn't a big deal. But you say it is. So any example you can give?
    It's hard to take a side when most of the details aren't said.

    He's trying a social experiment here. Eventually he will post a picture of an extremely hot Russian chick, and say he dumped her because she hates on Georgians.

    And we'll all go: " no, that's not what we meant!"


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