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Breaking - explosions at Brussels Airport **Mod warning in post 1**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    ‘NO BORDERS’ ACTIVISTS WELCOME BRUSSELS ATTACK: A ‘GOOD THING’
    Leftists urge migrants to exploit "chaos" caused by bombings


    “Eurostar to Brussels suspended, Lille airport is taking some of the planes due to land in Brussel airport. It could mean some chaos and good chance some people will go to UK! Sorry there is a good side to everything


    http://www.infowars.com/no-borders-activists-welcome-brussels-attack-a-good-thing/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭GT_TDI_150


    Need to have a crack off this 'why' thing

    Why do they attack inoccent civilian targets in Europe?
    Answer #1: Because they hate what the 'west' stands for / No western person is innocent

    Why do they hate .....
    Answer #2: Because they were radicalized by Saudi funded Imans or by people already radicalised by imans

    This is where it gets complicated ...

    Why are they able to be radicalized? AND why do the Saudi's feel the need to fund imans to push a more violent / hatefilled version of the Koran?
    Answer #3a: Because they feel seperated / dis-enfranchised / ostracized in the communities they reside in.
    Answer #3b: Because they want to force the creation of the caliphate and envoke sharia law world wide

    Why do they feel all those things ... and why do they want to envoke sharia law
    Answer #4a: because they have refused to adjusted their way of life to the country they are living in and recognise their country of birth as exactly that.
    Answer #4b: because they faithfully believe the literal interpretation of a scripture from ages ago

    No this is where it gets easy again
    Why ...
    Answer #5: Because they are a pack of selfcentered, power hungry, women degrading, nutcases with homocidal tendancies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    This is a copy of the note the Turkey pinned to his jacket when they deported him to Netherlands

    https://twitter.com/RuudHteB/status/713069546970734593



    and Reuters are reporting he was also on USA watch list


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭thattequilagirl


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    Need to have a crack off this 'why' thing

    Why do they attack inoccent civilian targets in Europe?
    Answer #1: Because they hate what the 'west' stands for / No western person is innocent

    Why do they hate .....
    Answer #2: Because they were radicalized by Saudi funded Imans or by people already radicalised by imans

    This is where it gets complicated ...

    Why are they able to be radicalized? AND why do the Saudi's feel the need to fund imans to push a more violent / hatefilled version of the Koran?
    Answer #3a: Because they feel seperated / dis-enfranchised / ostracized in the communities they reside in.
    Answer #3b: Because they want to force the creation of the caliphate and envoke sharia law world wide

    Why do they feel all those things ... and why do they want to envoke sharia law
    Answer #4a: because they have refused to adjusted their way of life to the country they are living in and recognise their country of birth as exactly that.
    Answer #4b: because they faithfully believe the literal interpretation of a scripture from ages ago

    No this is where it gets easy again
    Why ...
    Answer #5: Because they are a pack of selfcentered, power hungry, women degrading, pork dodging ,nutcases with homocidal tendancies

    I just had a long talk with my Pakistani British friend about this. While not even a little bit excusing or apologising for the terrorists, she talked at length about the racism her father experienced as a Pakistani taxi driver, and gave numerous examples of horrific racism she experienced herself from childhood through to adulthood.

    She admitted that her parents didn't let her integrate in certain ways (didn't let her hang around town or dress scantily though she's always dressed in Western clothes and not covered her hair) and she says even though that was hard, she's grateful now as many of her white British friends ended up on drugs/pregnant as teens.

    She also spoke about how most of the guys her age like herself came from working class backgrounds where college wasn't an option and unemployment was rife.

    Added to this, she feels like Britain doesn't accept her community as British so she'll never be accepted as one of them but she's also not a true Pakistani - she's only been there once in her life - the UK is her homeland.

    So it's not any one thing, and none of it excuses murder, but it was interesting that through the hour long conversation, religion didn't even come in to it - it was all social/cultural stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭GT_TDI_150


    Anti terror action ongoing in france and Belgium tonight ...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭thattequilagirl


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    Anti terror action ongoing in france and Belgium tonight ...

    I was due to fly through Brussels tomorrow, trying to get home via Berlin instead. Last minute flight on a bank holiday- ISIS are costing me a fortune.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    Anti terror action ongoing in france and Belgium tonight ...

    PARIS (AP) — France's interior minister says a Frenchman has been arrested in the "advanced stages" of a plot to attack the country.
    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/3d640035002e415ab8c92dcbce4d61be/france-arrests-man-advanced-stages-attack-plot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭GT_TDI_150


    I just had a long talk with my Pakistani British friend about this. While not even a little bit excusing or apologising for the terrorists, she talked at length about the racism her father experienced as a Pakistani taxi driver, and gave numerous examples of horrific racism she experienced herself from childhood through to adulthood.

    She admitted that her parents didn't let her integrate in certain ways (didn't let her hang around town or dress scantily though she's always dressed in Western clothes and not covered her hair) and she says even though that was hard, she's grateful now as many of her white British friends ended up on drugs/pregnant as teens.

    She also spoke about how most of the guys her age like herself came from working class backgrounds where college wasn't an option and unemployment was rife.

    Added to this, she feels like Britain doesn't accept her community as British so she'll never be accepted as one of them but she's also not a true Pakistani - she's only been there once in her life - the UK is her homeland.

    So it's not any one thing, and none of it excuses murder, but it was interesting that through the hour long conversation, religion didn't even come in to it - it was all social/cultural stuff

    I think its a viscous circle tbh ... new generations fail to integrate ... new generations of 'locals' grow more weary ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭GT_TDI_150


    You have to wonder how many 'cells' and 'lone wolves' are 'ready to go' around Europe!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭thattequilagirl


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    You have to wonder how many 'cells' and 'lone wolves' are 'ready to go' around Europe!

    It's horrible. It's the first time I've travelled that I don't feel safe.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    You have to wonder how many 'cells' and 'lone wolves' are 'ready to go' around Europe!

    European police authorities know and prevent many terrorist attacks. This atrocity was expected to happen. Europe is turning out many Jihadist cells.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭GT_TDI_150


    It's horrible. It's the first time I've travelled that I don't feel safe.


    We went to Belgium 4 or so weeks ago to visit my family, after Paris, it took me a while to convince the missus is was safe ... it was eary to see the military presence in the airport, more so on the way home as we were early and paced that departure hall for 2 hrs .... from the reconstruction I've seen we sat very close to where bomb 1 went off ... SCARY

    We are due to go to Spain in a month ... not a hope will I be able to convince my missus for that trip I'd say ... it probably isnt logical to be fearfull but its understandable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭GT_TDI_150


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    European police authorities know and prevent many terrorist attacks. This atrocity was expected to happen. Europe is turning out many Jihadist cells.
    If they stop 9 out of 10 or even 99 out of 100, that still means at some point 20-30-40-100 or more people will be the unfortunate victims of one of these attacks :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    If they stop 9 out of 10 or even 99 out of 100, that still means at some point 20-30-40-100 or more people will be the unfortunate victims of one of these attacks :(

    Half a dozen islamic terrorists close Belgium, what is Europe going to do when 400 islamic terrorists rise up and start attacking simultaneously.

    http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-islamic-state-fighters-europe-20160323-story.html

    5,000 IS members thought to be in Europe.

    The police, ambulance, fire dept., army will be in chaos, and that is what IS want.

    The open boarder policy, and allowing all those refugees to maraud across Europe is going to come back to haunt Europe.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 794 ✭✭✭TheHillOfDoom


    Well they've done nothing at all at any point apart from taking out soft targets; women, children, men. Civilians.

    They are not criminal masterminds. A child could figure out what they do. They are evil cowards.

    Once we keep our intelligence on them tight, we'll be fine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    old_aussie wrote: »

    5,000 IS members thought to be in Europe.

    Who is the person/organisation behind this thought? Is it an educated guess or is that the number that are being watched?
    The open boarder policy, and allowing all those refugees to maraud across Europe is going to come back to haunt Europe.

    That would depend on how those people are treated, on how those people intigrate, on how radicalisation is policed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    old_aussie wrote: »
    The open boarder policy, and allowing all those refugees to maraud across Europe is going to come back to haunt Europe.

    Of course but the right-on SJW types will say you're just fear-mongering and r****t. They don't want to acknowledge the truth and spin the blame off on everything else except the true cause.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Well they've done nothing at all at any point apart from taking out soft targets; women, children, men. Civilians.

    They are not criminal masterminds. A child could figure out what they do. They are evil cowards.

    Once we keep our intelligence on them tight, we'll be fine.

    You mean Fine, like Brussels is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Ground invasion of the caliphate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,863 ✭✭✭✭inforfun



    That would depend on how those people are treated, on how those people intigrate, on how radicalisation is policed.

    Think his point is that after merkel invited the world in, it got very easy for those ****ers to hide in that endless stream of people and enter europe with no fuss whatsoever.

    1 of those assholes arrested in france admitted so much as getting back from Syria that way with 90 more of those pieces of excrement.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭denhaagenite


    inforfun wrote: »
    Think his point is that after merkel invited the world in, it got very easy for those ****ers to hide in that endless stream of people and enter europe with no fuss whatsoever.

    1 of those assholes arrested in france admitted so much as getting back from Syria that way with 90 more of those pieces of excrement.

    But they have no fuss whatsoever anyway. Why would they trek across Turkey, Macedonia, Greece etc etc which might take months and risk of life when they can just hop on a plane with their passports? If there was any real plan for the refugees they'd keep their mouths shut

    It's a smokescreen. They're all saying they're coming in with refugees so Europe will mistrust and mistreat these refugees. It will then be easier for them to recruit the refugees as jihadists.

    On an unrelated note, anyone hear Joe Duffy the other day? On with Ali Selim? God that other Imam, Ibrahim Noonan, didn't seem to be much of a fan at all...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,863 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    But they have no fuss whatsoever anyway. Why would they trek across Turkey, Macedonia, Greece etc etc which might take months and risk of life when they can just hop on a plane with their passports? If there was any real plan for the refugees they'd keep their mouths shut

    It's a smokescreen. They're all saying they're coming in with refugees so Europe will mistrust and mistreat these refugees. It will then be easier for them to recruit the refugees as jihadists.

    On an unrelated note, anyone hear Joe Duffy the other day? On with Ali Selim? God that other Imam, Ibrahim Noonan, didn't seem to be much of a fan at all...

    I know they would have travelled in other ways. This just made it so much easier.
    It is like getting from Kopenhagen to Malmo. There were ways before but that Oresund bridge made it a hell of lot easier and quicker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭denhaagenite


    inforfun wrote: »
    I know they would have travelled in other ways. This just made it so much easier.
    It is like getting from Kopenhagen to Malmo. There were ways before but that Oresund bridge made it a hell of lot easier and quicker.

    You're completely missing the point. The attackers were born in Belgium, have Belgian citizenship and Belgian passports. It would have been more difficult for them to get into any country in the Middle East ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭GT_TDI_150


    with all the technology available, you have to wonder why we dont all have visa-card style passports that need to be scanned at airports, train stations, border crossings, etc if your face/fingerprint doesnt match the swiped card, if you are on a watch list ... big red flashing light ... it isnt rocket sience!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    Being reported that they worked in the airport
    Amazing with their background!


    Has the flag movers been arrested for incitement for hatred?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭GT_TDI_150


    Being reported that they worked in the airport
    Amazing with their background!


    Has the flag movers been arrested for incitement for hatred?

    see, ... who is to say that the gentleman that walked the airport building filming while looking for his son who worked at a coffee shop isnt part of the network and was looking for more chock value material to get broadcast to the wider world?

    Would you film a blood soaked crying toddler sitting next to a lifeless body and hand it over to the press?

    PS: there are no reports to suggest that he is an ISIS sympatant but I just think its off behaviour. I would have put the phone down and started to help more people ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,863 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    You're completely missing the point. The attackers were born in Belgium, have Belgian citizenship and Belgian passports. It would have been more difficult for them to get into any country in the Middle East ffs.


    I am not saying the attackers were new refugees.
    I am saying they use the refugee stream to come back from their trip Belgium - Syria , France - Syria, Holland - Syria.

    At least 2 of the ones that blew themselves up in Paris in november came back from ISIS country pretending to be a refugee.
    1 who was arrested later admitted to have done the same thing himself with 90 others.
    And most likely those 90 are indeed born in Western Europe. No argument there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    see, ... who is to say that the gentleman that walked the airport building filming while looking for his son who worked at a coffee shop isnt part of the network and was looking for more chock value material to get broadcast to the wider world?

    Would you film a blood soaked crying toddler sitting next to a lifeless body and hand it over to the press?

    PS: there are no reports to suggest that he is an ISIS sympatant but I just think its off behaviour. I would have put the phone down and started to help more people ...

    He wasn't allowed to help the toddler because she would be easier to identify if she was beside her dead mother :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭GT_TDI_150


    apologies, this is true.

    but (unless we really have become that attached to our phones) pocket the phone and help people out of the building that you are allowed to move, like he does at the end of the video(but still with the phone on.

    I regret seeing that video tbh, the groans and screams are aweful, the child crying is heart braking


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Ground invasion of the caliphate.
    If they want to call themselves a state, let's treat them as such. Wipe them from the face of the earth. Completely destroy their leadership, infrastructure and finances.


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