Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

wonderfullife

LMAO.

RDA was wedged against the fence with his 2 feet planted beside each other. Stance is irrelevant when you're wedged against a fence.

If your argument is that Eddie will use the right-uppercut, left-hook combo on Conor against the fence then that's a very convenient argument to make.

In open-Octagon space, that combo is virtually impossible to execute on McGregor unless you have a death wish.

And comparing RDA with McGregor stylistically is another joke.

This is a much MUCH tougher fight for Alvarez than people think. A lot of people out there think it's going to be simple for Eddie. That all he has to do is shoot for a double-leg or get McGregor tied up in a clinch.

That's easier said than done when you have to avoid a left handed missile coming at your face.

wonderfullife

Just to be clear - I'm not saying Eddie can't hurt or KO Conor....he absolutely can. He's a UFC champion for a reason and Conor does get hit in his fights.

What i'm saying is Eddie's style (brawling, head-first combos) is tailor-made for Conor and he has KO'd almost every opponent who fought him in this style.

Nate Diaz throws similar volume but he doesn't lead with his head.

Watch any of the GIF's you posted above. Eddie leads with his head first, punches come after.

The last person to do that was Jose Aldo and he ended up unconscious pretty fast.

Lukker-

I think Eddie will go for singles rather than doubles, that front leg is just there for the taking with Conor's wide stance.

Gamebred

I think you are very foolishly writing Alvarez off tbh there is no bigger fan of Conor but to think all he will have to do is ping a left hand and its game over is very naive,Eddie has different ways of winning he just absolutely merked RDA standing who was on a run of wrecking people,he has his wrestling which he can use to decision people too,of course Conor can highlight reel any man alive up to possibly 170 but its no given here.

Killergreene

wonderfullife wrote: »

Well Owen Roddy and Peter Queally disagree with you.

That teep had a lot to do with the win over Nate - certainly in the opinion of Roddy and Queally. And i agree with them.

those two bums don't know the first thing about mma. we all know how their careers turned out; propping up the dole queue and getting their heads bashed in for 100 quid a night every few months. queally is the biggest pile of garbage to step inside a cage since pendred.


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wonderfullife

Lukker- wrote: »

I think Eddie will go for singles rather than doubles, that front leg is just there for the taking with Conor's wide stance.

yeah Firas Zahabi said if he was coaching Eddie he would 100% be recommending the single into double-takedown. Single leg him, push him against the fence, into the double.

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wonderfullife

darced wrote: »

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I'm pretty sure GSP's head-coach and head-coach of TriStar has his own reasons for saying it. Watch his breakdown of the fight!!

And that teep absolutely changed the momentum of the Diaz rematch. It took the wind from his sails. Of course the leg kicks and head shots mattered a lot too!

ASOT

Killergreene wrote: »

those two bums don't know the first thing about mma. we all know how their careers turned out; propping up the dole queue and getting their heads bashed in for 100 quid a night every few months. queally is the biggest pile of garbage to step inside a cage since pendred.

You should probably go back to sucking off kavanagh; Conor wouldnt be the fighter he is today without Owen.

Also someone should teep the thread so maybe it would become interesting again.

Depp

Killergreene wrote: »

those two bums don't know the first thing about mma. we all know how their careers turned out; propping up the dole queue and getting their heads bashed in for 100 quid a night every few months. queally is the biggest pile of garbage to step inside a cage since pendred.

i love how brave lads get with throwaway troll accounts!

darced

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wonderfullife

darced wrote: »

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I found it interesting in the Presser for 205 when Conor said "one of those elbows will dig into the sweet spot and that'll be all she wrote".

He butchered Steve O' Keefe with elbows in the clinch against the fence.

So you might well be right there.

Kavanagh said during his #OneZeroCon interview that he fully expects Eddie to have his moments where he pressures Conor in against the fence.

Gamebred

I'd be more worried about Eddie using his elbows on the fence tbh,Conor will over hook try turn him onto the fence and break the clinch back and get it back to the centre of the cage,as most know though Eddie will scoop the double a lot better than Nate could.

wonderfullife

Gamebred wrote: »

I'd be more worried about Eddie using his elbows on the fence tbh,Conor will over hook try turn him onto the fence and break the clinch back and get it back to the centre of the cage,as most know though Eddie will scoop the double a lot better than Nate could.

Do we have any reason to believe Eddie's JiuJitsu is superior to Conors?

The only bits of evidence we have from McGregors side of things in recent memory are:

Holloway fight - Dominated Max on the ground.

Mendes fight - He was very limited in his closed guard. He landed some nice elbows off his back but otherwise sustained a fair few strikes. And of course he executed an excellent guillotine escape.

Diaz 1 - modified X-Guard sweep into top control in Round 1 was high level. Failed guillotine escape Round 2.


Eddie has 7 submission wins but none of them have come against elite UFC/Bellator talent.

I'm not convinced Eddie will dominate on the ground if he succeeds in getting Conor down. Plus, you've got Conor putting in a lot of work with Kavanagh, Nelson and Danis on his jiujitsu in the last 18-24 months.

People seem convinced Eddie will have the advantage on the ground but i'm far from convinced. It's hard to grade Alvarez jiujitsu seeing as he isn't belted but i suppose purple or brown is a fair guess.

Gamebred

wonderfullife wrote: »

Do we have any reason to believe Eddie's JiuJitsu is superior to Conors?

The only bits of evidence we have from McGregors side of things in recent memory are:

Holloway fight - Dominated Max on the ground.

Mendes fight - He was very limited in his closed guard. He landed some nice elbows off his back but otherwise sustained a fair few strikes. And of course he executed an excellent guillotine escape.

Diaz 1 - modified X-Guard sweep into top control in Round 1 was high level. Failed guillotine escape Round 2.


Eddie has 7 submission wins but none of them have come against elite UFC/Bellator talent.

I'm not convinced Eddie will dominate on the ground if he succeeds in getting Conor down. Plus, you've got Conor putting in a lot of work with Kavanagh, Nelson and Danis on his jiujitsu in the last 18-24 months.

People seem convinced Eddie will have the advantage on the ground but i'm far from convinced. It's hard to grade Alvarez jiujitsu seeing as he isn't belted but i suppose purple or brown is a fair guess.

He's a brown belt under Ricardo Almeida,Alvarez is the better mma grappler its not even debatable.

Lukker-

wonderfullife wrote: »

Do we have any reason to believe Eddie's JiuJitsu is superior to Conors?

The only bits of evidence we have from McGregors side of things in recent memory are:

Holloway fight - Dominated Max on the ground.

Mendes fight - He was very limited in his closed guard. He landed some nice elbows off his back but otherwise sustained a fair few strikes. And of course he executed an excellent guillotine escape.

Diaz 1 - modified X-Guard sweep into top control in Round 1 was high level. Failed guillotine escape Round 2.


Eddie has 7 submission wins but none of them have come against elite UFC/Bellator talent.

I'm not convinced Eddie will dominate on the ground if he succeeds in getting Conor down. Plus, you've got Conor putting in a lot of work with Kavanagh, Nelson and Danis on his jiujitsu in the last 18-24 months.

People seem convinced Eddie will have the advantage on the ground but i'm far from convinced. It's hard to grade Alvarez jiujitsu seeing as he isn't belted but i suppose purple or brown is a fair guess.

Conor might have more technical jitz but that will only get him so far. Alvarez is a much more accomplished grappler and good wrestling is what tends to make the difference in grappling exchanges when 2 people have similar level BJJ imo.

Alvarez is also bigger and stronger and has a very smothering style.

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wonderfullife

Are we all saying that Conor won't level-change a la the Buchinger fight and take Eddie down himself?

It'd be the last thing Eddie is expecting as he comes in swinging..... just a thought!

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Zero-Cool

Eddie was made brown belt lately. I would absolutely love Conor to win by sub. If Eddie goes down, for Conor to take take his back instead of ground and pound, just get a sub win on his record.

John_D80

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Eddie was made brown belt lately. I would absolutely love Conor to win by sub. If Eddie goes down, for Conor to take take his back instead of ground and pound, just get a sub win on his record.

Submitted Dave Hill in CW. Hill is quite a decent grappler as well

Zero-Cool

John_D80 wrote: »

Submitted Dave Hill in CW. Hill is quite a decent grappler as well

Ah shyte ya how could i forget that epic rnc.

wonderfullife

darced wrote: »

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There are signs that he's falling into the Rousey Trap of having such a potent weapon and going back it time after time.

The SBG camp keep telling us that 155lb Conor is the best version we'll see. Conor keeps telling us his new cardio training is the way forward.

If all of the above is true, then he should be able to flow.

If he goes in just relying on his left hand to get the job done, it could be a rough night. Eddie will have drilled non-stop against counter-punching southpaws.

Mind you, we've plenty enough evidence that he can get his hand raised through that left hand alone.

2 weeks until UFC 205 Embedded pops. For me that's when the real buzz starts when i see that first episode drop.

Killergreene

Are u going to 205 wonderful ?
Couldn't afford to go myself.

Icelandicseige

wonderfullife wrote: »

There are signs that he's falling into the Rousey Trap of having such a potent weapon and going back it time after time.

The SBG camp keep telling us that 155lb Conor is the best version we'll see. Conor keeps telling us his new cardio training is the way forward.

If all of the above is true, then he should be able to flow.

If he goes in just relying on his left hand to get the job done, it could be a rough night. Eddie will have drilled non-stop against counter-punching southpaws.

Mind you, we've plenty enough evidence that he can get his hand raised through that left hand alone.

2 weeks until UFC 205 Embedded pops. For me that's when the real buzz starts when i see that first episode drop.

2 weeks? Ah you have me excited now.. I'll be sad if the rumours that he'll be taking a break after this are true..

But he can't really take a break if he holds two belts can he??

Killergreene

Devlin is having twins. Heard it from one of the lads training in sbg. Conor is taking six months off.

Muahahaha

DrPhilG wrote: »

Thanks for clarifying John.

I didn't post anything about it but my first reaction was certainly one of shock.

I'm sure you can see how most people would assume that it was Charlie's account.

Not sure what can be done about it? I'm sure twitter themselves don't give 2 hoots about someone being impersonated.

The likes of Twitter/Facebook ignore the first legal letter, are terse and dismissive on the second and then capitulate on the third. I work in the legal game and my boss has dealt with Facebook on behalf of a client who was being defamed. Under Irish defamation law the company that publishes a defamatory statement can be legitimately and successfully sued once a cease and desist letter has been sent and they dont do anything about removing the content. In our case Facebook just ignored the first letter, waffled a reply for the second and then finally when threatened with being sued for tens of thousands over ruining someones reputation they removed the content pretty sharpish. Facebook have an American culture that puts emphasis on freedom of speech at all costs but Irish law is very much in conflict with allowing anyone just saying anything they like about another person in a public forum.

The great thing about the law is everyone is equal before it, even multi-billion dollar companies

As for Twitter and trolls impersonating famous people they very much would deal with it if it is proved it is an impersonator. Twitter depend heavily on celebrities who drive huge volumes of traffic to their platform. So they are not going to shoot themselves in the foot if a troll impersonates someone well known and is sending out messages pretending to be them.

wonderfullife

Killergreene wrote: »

Devlin is having twins. Heard it from one of the lads training in sbg. Conor is taking six months off.

6 months isn't really a lay-off being honest. It's the very least he needs to chill after 5 fights in 16 months. Would put him back in action in late March, early April.

Also means he'd be definitely handing Aldo back the belt.

kumate_champ07

wonderfullife wrote: »

Well Paul Dollery and Kav are following him on Twitter. They've seen the picture.

I refuse to believe nobody has noticed that his profile picture is a punch landed that contributed to the death of a man.

The problem with Kavanagh is he refuses to accept "negativity" or criticism on Twitter. If i tweeted, in good faith, "is it not insensitive for Charlie to use that photo?" the chances are i'd be blocked.

I was blocked by Joe Rogan a while back for suggesting that hunting wild, endangered animals is not cool :rolleyes:

actually because people pay big money to hunt them the game keepers can invest in breeding programs to increase the populations

I dont listen to his hunting podcasts but Joe is only pro 'ethical' hunting.

to my first point, the only other exception is when endangered animals are poached because villages are literally starving, the poachers are at risk of being shot dead when doing this but they take the risk