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Illegal parking in city

  • 30-01-2016 3:03pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 992 ✭✭✭


    i can't help but notice a few interesting examples of illegal parking that seems to be accepted

    While I search for a proper parking space it seems those that throw their cars up on a footpath are fine

    Examples:

    Always 2 or 3 cars on footpath outside that Velo cafe place, presumably the owners/staff of cafe

    By gate of Beamish and Crawford

    Coal Quay plaza is the famous one

    And as we're at it, how many years is that red Corpo trailer left at the river side of road on Sullivan's Quay


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,513 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Yup, parking with all 4 wheels on the footpath has become a thing. See it all the time at the start of Pope's Quay and in Blackpool too.
    Cornmarket St / Coal Quay drives me mad every weekend.
    Bike lanes seem to be fair game too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭Lia_lia


    I live on the North Mall and the bike lane is often full of cars. Especially when there is a funeral on. Fair enough you need somewhere to park, but Cathedral road for example often has lots of spaces, it's up the road. I often can't find parking but still wouldn't park on the bike lane.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 992 ✭✭✭kcb


    The lawyer folk seem to be allowed park on the footpaths all around the courthouse

    Down the side of the old tax office is another favourite for the footpath parkers

    Also what's the story with Loading Areas... Are vans belong to The Wine Buff, for example, allowed park their all day long


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,513 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    kcb wrote: »
    The lawyer folk seem to be allowed park on the footpaths all around the courthouse

    Down the side of the old tax office is another favourite for the footpath parkers

    Also what's the story with Loading Areas... Are vans belong to The Wine Buff, for example, allowed park their all day long

    Oh yeah, the courthouse one is interesting all right. I guess if you're pals with the guards.....

    Loading bay is supposed to give you 30 minutes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Courthouse footpath is private property I'm told so if they're there with permission they're doing nothing wrong.

    It's the parking in cycle lanes and blocking emergency exits that really gets me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭ofcork


    People seem to always park private cars in the loading bays on the grand parade during the week and always end up being ticketed,do they not read the signs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Just saw on the examiner 75 parking fines a day handed out last year in cork city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭CHealy


    It seems to be only city center, the amount of double yellow parking I see around Capwell in particular is incredible, and leads to massive backups daily. Corks streets were made for horse and cart and haven't been altered accordingly to suit cars and the parking of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭roundymac


    ofcork wrote: »
    Just saw on the examiner 75 parking fines a day handed out last year in cork city.
    Ya, but are they being collected?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    kcb wrote: »
    The lawyer folk seem to be allowed park on the footpaths all around the courthouse

    AFAIK there's poles on the footpaths there now to prevent most of that. Bad parking there creates a nightmare for Prison and Garda vans !!

    For the ultimate experience in bad parking head down around Pairc ui Rinn any time there's a game on. Footpaths, green areas, double yellows, cycle lanes and across house entrances are all fair game. The bend by the funeral home is the worst of the lot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭ofcork


    roundymac wrote: »
    Ya, but are they being collected?

    Yes according to the article just saw a few cars being ticketed on grand parade parked in loadind bays,can they not read?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭Att vara en hest


    Cars in the bike lanes are getting quite annoying... But Gardai doesn't seem to do anything about it.

    I'd love to do something like this:
    (youtube)/bzE-IMaegzQ?t=72


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,044 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Have you checked what's wrote on the tax discs, that's what the clampers check first before placing a clamp on, it's the first thing they learn in their job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭FrStone


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Courthouse footpath is private property I'm told so if they're there with permission they're doing nothing wrong.

    I also notice that, the legal people are able to park behind the courthouse without a parking disc all day every day.

    Even if the footpath is private property they have no entitlement to park on it. There is no legal enterance to it off the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭kingtut


    Every Sunday the motorbike parking at the end of South mall is completely full of cars (the cars parked at the end pretty much end up blocking one entire lane!!). I walk past almost every Sunday and have yet to see a ticket on one of them.

    Love it if they put up the barrier things like they have for the motorbike parking near opera lane.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 992 ✭✭✭kcb


    kingtut wrote: »
    Every Sunday the motorbike parking at the end of South mall is completely full of cars (the cars parked at the end pretty much end up blocking one entire lane!!). I walk past almost every Sunday and have yet to see a ticket on one of them..

    Good call on that one. Very annoying, even for someone who doesn't need a bike space!

    They should be towed away as it is stopping bikes from parking legitimately. I wonder would anything happen if a call was made by a cyclist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,888 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    kcb wrote: »
    I wonder would anything happen if a call was made by a cyclist.

    Unless the cyclist was armed and picking off people at random, most likely nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 992 ✭✭✭kcb


    An SUV parked on the courthouse plaza this evening, and it seems had managed to lift one of the railings out of the ground to accommodate it. Handy to know the right people.

    A couple more on the footpath down the side. Not a bother.

    Nearly got mowed down later ON Paul St plaza by a car heading to that new Ali Kitchen cafe. Fair play to her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,525 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    kingtut wrote: »
    Every Sunday the motorbike parking at the end of South mall is completely full of cars (the cars parked at the end pretty much end up blocking one entire lane!!). I walk past almost every Sunday and have yet to see a ticket on one of them.

    Love it if they put up the barrier things like they have for the motorbike parking near opera lane.

    And you won't. Traffic wardens don't work most Sundays and the Gardai don't leave a paper ticket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭ROY RACE


    kcb wrote: »
    Good call on that one. Very annoying, even for someone who doesn't need a bike space!

    They should be towed away as it is stopping bikes from parking legitimately. I wonder would anything happen if a call was made by a cyclist.

    Revenge of the car owner from those cycle pods that have taken up half available parking areas . would have no problem throwing my car up on it.:P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭ofcork


    On the echo today the council are finally doing something about the illegal parking in the coal quay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 992 ✭✭✭kcb


    ofcork wrote: »
    On the echo today the council are finally doing something about the illegal parking in the coal quay.

    Good to hear. Finally.

    It'd be interesting to know why. It's hardly for the benefit of the pedestrian or for any actual good reason. Must be some grant in jeopardy or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭ofcork


    I was walking there on Sunday and 3 cars drove up on the plaza forcing me and others to get out of their way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 992 ✭✭✭kcb


    ofcork wrote: »
    I was walking there on Sunday and 3 cars drove up on the plaza forcing me and others to get out of their way.

    And all within a doughnuts throw of the Garda station. Astonishing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭Lia_lia


    The other day the whole bike lane on the north mall was full of cars because of a funeral. It's the same almost every evening! I feel bad for the people that cycle and want to use the lane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭opus


    ofcork wrote: »
    On the echo today the council are finally doing something about the illegal parking in the coal quay.

    Great to hear, it gets mental there some days, walking in the middle of the road would almost be safer!
    Lia_lia wrote: »
    The other day the whole bike lane on the north mall was full of cars because of a funeral. It's the same almost every evening! I feel bad for the people that cycle and want to use the lane.

    Used to cycle along that way every evening but stay on the other side of the river now as never have to worry about parked cars there.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 80 ✭✭28srf0c


    How do they actually get away with parking on the Cornmarket Garda station plaza thing? It says Garda access only.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Garda access is to do with cutting across the plaza to the bridewell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    First off, I'm from Cork, but living in Dublin. Every time time I go back home I am quite amused by the cavalier attitude to parking in Cork. It's somewhat akin to "throw the handbrake on, get out". Parking near GAA grounds on match day is near farcical. I pity the poor residents.

    Its a pity that they stopped clamping in Cork. Like it or not, clamping is the reason why parking discipline exists in Dublin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭Lia_lia


    Just saw a Garda walking around the cornmarket/coal quay area with a notebook going up to the parked cars. All getting fines I reckon. Delighted!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 992 ✭✭✭kcb


    Lia_lia wrote: »
    Just saw a Garda walking around the cornmarket/coal quay area with a notebook going up to the parked cars. All getting fines I reckon. Delighted!

    Good to hear. Hopefully they'll all get a nice fine.

    Some fine illegal parking on yellow lines along Georges Quay and along further outside Sober Lane also. Not a bother to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,525 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    Lia_lia wrote: »
    Just saw a Garda walking around the cornmarket/coal quay area with a notebook going up to the parked cars. All getting fines I reckon. Delighted!

    This is nothing new. I used to live on the coal quay for three years. Nearly every Sunday the Gardai were out ticketing. They'd often do two or three sweeps a day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭Lia_lia


    This is nothing new. I used to live on the coal quay for three years. Nearly every Sunday the Gardai were out ticketing. They'd often do two or three sweeps a day.

    Yet so many people still park there, mad!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,525 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    Lia_lia wrote: »
    Yet so many people still park there, mad!

    It's the lack of visibility of enforcement. The Gardai don't leave tickets. Even if they go out three times, they're only seen taking down numbers for ten minutes maximum. Unless you witness this you're not going to see a deterrent. I've watched literally hundreds of cars getting ticketed from my apartment when I lived there, but even that's a relatively tiny number in the grand scheme of things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭farmerjj


    Lia_lia wrote: »
    Just saw a Garda walking around the cornmarket/coal quay area with a notebook going up to the parked cars. All getting fines I reckon. Delighted!

    What is the problem with people parking there on a sunday?(I know its illegal but I,m asking as practically reason?) Waste of space I feel.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,525 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    farmerjj wrote: »
    What is the problem with people parking there on a sunday?(I know its illegal but I,m asking as practically reason?) Waste of space I feel.

    Besides being extremely dangerous... I've seen kids (adults as well) nearly get run over. People in wheelchairs unable to get to the pedestrian crossing. They spent a fortune on it and cars cause damages. They block the entrance to business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭Lia_lia


    It's the lack of visibility of enforcement. The Gardai don't leave tickets.

    They did leave tickets today. Or some kind of piece of paper anyway with a big Garda logo on it. I was sitting outside the Parlour cafe having lunch and witnessed a few people park their cars and then after noticing the paper on windscreens of other cars drove off again!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭farmerjj


    Besides being extremely dangerous... I've seen kids (adults as well) nearly get run over. People in wheelchairs unable to get to the pedestrian crossing. They spent a fortune on it and cars cause damages. They block the entrance to business.

    Extremely dangerous:rolleyes: Your opinion on extreme is a little bit different from mine ,i would think parking on a motorway as extremely dangerous not parking on that waste of space.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,513 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    farmerjj wrote: »
    Extremely dangerous:rolleyes: Your opinion on extreme is a little bit different from mine ,i would think parking on a motorway as extremely dangerous not parking on that waste of space.

    That waste of space is an amenity for pedestrians - many of whom drive. A place to stroll without having to dodge reversing cars. A place in the city centre where kids should safely be able to be a bit less restrained. A space for market traders. A space for relaxation away from traffic.
    It was created at great expense to be the above, not to be a free car park for the ignorant, selfish driver.

    As a pedestrian, I tend to not walk in the road (except when ignorant parkers force me to).
    As I driver, I tend to not drive or park on footpaths.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭flo8s967qjh0nd


    ofcork wrote: »
    On the echo today the council are finally doing something about the illegal parking in the coal quay.

    Any idea how they are doing this? Bollards? Barriers?
    I always think it's a sad state of affairs that we have to spend money caging off footpaths so moronic drivers don't park on them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 992 ✭✭✭kcb


    farmerjj wrote: »
    Extremely dangerous:rolleyes: Your opinion on extreme is a little bit different from mine ,i would think parking on a motorway as extremely dangerous not parking on that waste of space.

    I don't know if you're on a windup or what - it seems not !

    To be honest it's that sort of "era sure it's grand" attitude that creates the problem in the first place. Most people parked up there don't see any issue with it. I suppose they might change their mind if it was their child that was ploughed down on a pedestrian plaza.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭ofcork


    @MrTea the article didnt say i assume bollards and some auto ones to facilitate the traders,as i said earlier i had to move out of the way recently as a guy drove on the plaza like he was on the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,513 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Any idea how they are doing this? Bollards? Barriers?
    I always think it's a sad state of affairs that we have to spend money caging off footpaths so moronic drivers don't park on them.

    They've put bicycle stands on either side of the access lane to the Garda station and they have temporary bollards across the other trader access. I guess they'll put removable bollards there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭BullBlackNova


    Any idea how they are doing this? Bollards? Barriers?
    I always think it's a sad state of affairs that we have to spend money caging off footpaths so moronic drivers don't park on them.

    They have put bike racks in place.

    Article in the Echo said that removable bollards will be added and the Council are going to put in street furniture, i.e. benches, large potted plants, etc. in the coming weeks/months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭FrStone


    They have put bike racks in place.

    Article in the Echo said that removable bollards will be added and the Council are going to put in street furniture, i.e. benches, large potted plants, etc. in the coming weeks/months.

    Well at least they are doing something with it. It's the biggest waste of space going at the moment - it might as well be a car park.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭BullBlackNova


    FrStone wrote: »
    Well at least they are doing something with it. It's the biggest waste of space going at the moment - it might as well be a car park.

    Yeah it is a waste. I think the Council originally saw a bigger demand for market stalls, etc there. Between farmers markets and a few other things popping up during the week, the idea was that it would be full several days a week but it never panned out as such.

    A seating area with some greenery could be nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭opus


    They have put bike racks in place.

    Article in the Echo said that removable bollards will be added and the Council are going to put in street furniture, i.e. benches, large potted plants, etc. in the coming weeks/months.

    These are the bike racks that have appeared.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    opus wrote: »
    These are the bike racks that have appeared.

    2e0tn5g.jpg
    Obstructions for the sake of it but sure what harm!

    By that I mean their function as bike stands is secondary to their function as bollards. Don't see a demand for racks particularly in that area, Apple maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,888 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Obstructions for the sake of it but sure what harm!

    By that I mean their function as bike stands is secondary to their function as bollards. Don't see a demand for racks particularly in that area, Apple maybe?

    Would be reluctant to lock a bike onto fairly isolated looking stands...safety in numbers and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,538 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Would be reluctant to lock a bike onto fairly isolated looking stands...safety in numbers and all that.
    I suppose on market days it will be fairly busy.


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