Eir rural FTTH thread

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Peppa Cig wrote: »

....I assume it's Cat 6 Ethernet cable to modem from ONT?

If so which port does does Ethernet cable get plugged into on F2000?

But I guess FTTH is ethernet connection?.....

Cat5e or CAT6. Terminates with RJ45 on both ends. Plugs into the blue WAN port on the F2000.

It is an ethernet connection.

KN will run this for you anyway.

Peppa Cig

More Music wrote: »

Cat5e or CAT6. Terminates with RJ45 on both ends. Plugs into the blue WAN port on the F2000.

It is an ethernet connection.

KN will run this for you anyway.

Thanks for that.

rob808

Gonzo wrote: »

you should have it within 6 months, hopefully less! It all depends on how quickly they complete the stages from today's work to finishing splicing. At last your finally seeing some action which is a great sign that things are finally moving!.

There not going as far as my house am I fecked with there work order or do they do sections.I should of ask were there stopping dam.my house manhole only one not marked the second last house has wp22 on it what ever that means.

Theanswers

I'm asking this question on behalf of a friend. They successfully ordered business Fibre FTTH and received a confirmation. Now a week later there receive another confirmation regarding ordering business talk and apparently needing to test the line??

Seems strange.

long_b

rob808 wrote: »

There not going as far as my house am I fecked with there work order or do they do sections.I should of ask were there stopping dam.my house manhole only one not marked the second last house has wp22 on it what ever that means.

How far are you from nearest splice box or are they up yet?

rob808

long_b wrote: »

How far are you from nearest splice box or are they up yet?

There no splice up on the poles yet there doing the fibre cables underground with the Eir manhole cant understand why there not going as far my house since im the last house on the route.

Gonzo

rob808 wrote: »

There no splice up on the poles yet there doing the fibre cables underground with the Eir manhole cant understand why there not going as far my house since im the last house on the route.

They usually don't work up to the last house. They usually stop about a pole or 2 from the last house and your house and your pole/manhole will only be wired once you place an order.

All the fibre routes in dunshaughlin stop a few houses before the end where the last pole worked on feeds the final few houses to where the yellow line stops on the map.

Theanswers

Anyone have any feedback on my earlier query about the order being downgraded? We currently have no line, so this will be a new setup.

ED E

Theanswers wrote: »

I'm asking this question on behalf of a friend. They successfully ordered business Fibre FTTH and received a confirmation. Now a week later there receive another confirmation regarding ordering business talk and apparently needing to test the line??

Seems strange.

Sounds like the New Line Provide procedure for FTTC not FTTH. If they ordered via the website call, the web order process with eir is entirely broken.

Pangea

Good few in my area seem to be getting FFTH in, my next door neighbour had a man from KN over one day, and nothing seemed to come of it, few days later I seen the County Council dumping gravel and putting up a pole beside his house, no progress since though.

I noticed on the fibre roll out map all around us are yellow lines except the bit of the road we live on, (a cluster of 10 houses) the yellow line is on both sides of the houses but magically stop for some reason, my luck. Not too worried though because KN put up the Cables on the pole outside my house a month ago and my eircode says I can order so must get round to it, Im guessing web chat is the best way?

The Cush

Pangea wrote: »

Good few in my area seem to be getting FFTH in, my next door neighbour had a man from KN over one day, and nothing seemed to come of it, few days later I seen the County Council dumping gravel and putting up a pole beside his house, no progress since though.

I noticed on the fibre roll out map all around us are yellow lines except the bit of the road we live on, (a cluster of 10 houses) the yellow line is on both sides of the houses but magically stop for some reason, my luck.

What does the NBP map indicated for these houses, light blue and dark blue indicate those properties in the 300,000 rollout - http://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/communications/topics/Broadband/national-broadband-plan/high-speed-broadband-map/Pages/Interactive-Map.aspx

BorneTobyWilde

At the moment the phone line comes in through wall and is running along hallway to the phone. Will the FTTH replace this wire, and will the modem be left in hallway when installed?
It's then up to me to hard wire it if I wish to PC ?
What is cable like? Current one is normal slim white wire that is not something you would notice.

Pangea

The Cush wrote: »

What does the NBP map indicated for these houses, light blue and dark blue indicate those properties in the 300,000 rollout - http://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/communications/topics/Broadband/national-broadband-plan/high-speed-broadband-map/Pages/Interactive-Map.aspx

Thanks, Light Blue
● 12% within NBP Intervention Area
● 0% covered by operators
● 88% planned rural deployment

The Cush

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

At the moment the phone line comes in through wall and is running along hallway to the phone. Will the FTTH replace this wire, and will the modem be left in hallway when installed?
It's then up to me to hard wire it if I wish to PC ?
What is cable like? Current one is normal slim white wire that is not something you would notice.

Some install pics here - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=102614422#post102614422
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=95836349&postcount=594

The fibre cable will not replace the existing copper cable, separate services/separate cables. Ethernet cable from ONT to modem location.

Attic install may also be possible, do a search here for "attic" to see some pics posted and discussion around it.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=103126093&postcount=4461
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=102848760&postcount=3828

Gonzo

just after spotting this on the Eir Forum about the monthly 'fair usage' policy.

Apparently the Eir's TV service also eats into the 1tb allowance. I know it uses Eir broadband but I presumed it was seperate and not counted as part of the download allowance. Another major reason to never go near Eir's TV service, not only does it take away some of your broadband speed, but also eats up the monthly allowance depending on how much tv you watch.

http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2057741969

knipex

Gonzo wrote: »

just after spotting this on the Eir Forum about the monthly 'fair usage' policy.

Apparently the Eir's TV service also eats into the 1tb allowance. I know it uses Eir broadband but I presumed it was seperate and not counted as part of the download allowance. Another major reason to never go near Eir's TV service, not only does it take away some of your broadband speed, but also eats up the monthly allowance depending on how much tv you watch.

http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2057741969

Well there goes my Eir TV order..

Gonzo

knipex wrote: »

Well there goes my Eir TV order..

I was never going near Eir TV anyway as I don't like their box and the service is missing alot of good channels. If I had Eir TV I would be cancelling it straight away knowing that it is eating into the 'fair usage' policy. I'm just wondering is the rep correct about this as it seems crazy to include the TV service into the allowance. If that was the case it would leave very little room to use the 'broadband' part of the service.

plodder

Gonzo wrote: »

just after spotting this on the Eir Forum about the monthly 'fair usage' policy.

Apparently the Eir's TV service also eats into the 1tb allowance. I know it uses Eir broadband but I presumed it was seperate and not counted as part of the download allowance. Another major reason to never go near Eir's TV service, not only does it take away some of your broadband speed, but also eats up the monthly allowance depending on how much tv you watch.

http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2057741969

I think it's worth quoting the actual reply

eir Vision works off your broadband however, it wouldn't affect your monthly usage. It would only affect your usage if you are downloading movies from our on demand service.

That's pretty much what I would have expected. Broadcast TV does not affect the FUP but on demand stuff would.. and would be the same with any TV provider.

Gonzo

plodder wrote: »

I think it's worth quoting the actual reply


That's pretty much what I would have expected. Broadcast TV does not affect the FUP but on demand stuff would.. and would be the same with any TV provider.

she updated the message since I first posted! When I first read it she stated that it would effect usage. I was thinking she had to be wrong as Eir Vision using the monthly allowance would just be crazy.

Grumpypants

Got installed on the 5th. So I've had it for about 13 days. Was on holidays for 5 days, and with work etc, I've only been online for about 5 days.

Usage 400gb!

Mainly game updates and a few full game downloads. But nowhere near my full library. Will prob look to only download and update a game when I want to play them going forward as it is so fast. Rather than have them stored on my hard drive.

COD update was over 40gb! the PS4 automatically updated all my installed games. Accounts for over 100gb of my usage.

It is going to be very easy to go over that limit. They really need a fail safe. Even a text at 900gb would be a start.

plodder

Gonzo wrote: »

she updated the message since I first posted! When I first read it she stated that it would effect usage. I was thinking she had to be wrong as Eir Vision using the monthly allowance would just be crazy.

Fair point. It seems like it has been updated once more. Now it says:

eir Vision works off your broadband however, it wouldn't affect your monthly usage or any of your upload or download allowances.

So, now they are saying even "on demand" stuff is not included.

Bored Accountant

plodder wrote: »

So, now they are saying even "on demand" stuff is not included.

She has removed the reference to the 'on demand' stuff. So isn't confirmed if that does come out of your allowance.

plodder

Bored Accountant wrote: »

She has removed the reference to the 'on demand' stuff. So isn't confirmed if that does come out of your allowance.

In a way that makes sense too. If you are being charged per download for "on demand" service, then it doesn't make sense to charge on the double for exceeding the FUP. But, three different answers doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Gonzo

I think Eir should take a leaf out of the mobile providers book and have certain services exempt from 'fair usage policys' such as:

- Youtube / Vimeo
- Netflix
- Social Media
- Spotify
- RTE Player/TV3 Player/4OD
- Eir Sports/BT Sports Streaming

Services such as above is general use, often by every member of a family on separate devices. These services are not in any way an abuse of using an internet service and should not be looked upon in the same light as someone downloading more torrents can they can possibly store or use.

It would make a big different to the 1tb fair usage policy with these streaming services exempt, the 1tb allowance should be just for 'downloading' e.g. games, large files, movies and projects.

BandMember

Gonzo wrote: »

I think Eir should take a leaf out of the mobile providers book and have certain services exempt from 'fair usage policys' such as:

- Youtube / Vimeo
- Netflix
- Social Media
- Spotify
- RTE Player/TV3 Player/4OD
- Eir Sports/BT Sports Streaming

Services such as above is general use, often by every member of a family on separate devices. These services are not in any way an abuse of using an internet service and should not be looked upon in the same light as someone downloading more torrents can they can possibly store or use.

It would make a big different to the 1tb fair usage policy with these streaming services exempt, the 1tb allowance should be just for 'downloading' e.g. games, large files, movies and projects.

Sure if they're going to take the most popular and biggest uses of the service out of the FUP, they might as well abandon it altogether........which we already know that they have no plans to do/don't want to do.....

However, I would agree that anything to do with Eir TV (either live or VOD content) should not be counted in any shape or form towards the FUP. That's a joke if it's true! :mad:

ED E

Gonzo wrote: »

I think Eir should take a leaf out of the mobile providers book and have certain services exempt from 'fair usage policys' such as:

- Youtube / Vimeo
- Netflix
- Social Media
- Spotify
- RTE Player/TV3 Player/4OD
- Eir Sports/BT Sports Streaming

Services such as above is general use, often by every member of a family on separate devices. These services are not in any way an abuse of using an internet service and should not be looked upon in the same light as someone downloading more torrents can they can possibly store or use.

It would make a big different to the 1tb fair usage policy with these streaming services exempt, the 1tb allowance should be just for 'downloading' e.g. games, large files, movies and projects.

Jesus christ no. Thats the definition of anti net neutrality and is a terrible line to go down.

spix

I tried to order ftth + phone bundle today and they said it was impossible as my phone line is deactivated and I can get the internet only. Is this correct? Gave no option for me to activate the phone line just that its impossible for me to get that bundle. Can anyone explain this or been in the same situation with a deactivated phone line.

daraghwal

spix wrote: »

I tried to order ftth + phone bundle today and they said it was impossible as my phone line is deactivated and I can get the internet only. Is this correct? Gave no option for me to activate the phone line just that its impossible for me to get that bundle. Can anyone explain this or been in the same situation with a deactivated phone line.

If you want an active phone line, I am pretty sure they have to give you one as part of the USO.

spix

Gonzo wrote: »

I think Eir should take a leaf out of the mobile providers book and have certain services exempt from 'fair usage policys' such as:

- Youtube / Vimeo
- Netflix
- Social Media
- Spotify
- RTE Player/TV3 Player/4OD
- Eir Sports/BT Sports Streaming

Services such as above is general use, often by every member of a family on separate devices. These services are not in any way an abuse of using an internet service and should not be looked upon in the same light as someone downloading more torrents can they can possibly store or use.

It would make a big different to the 1tb fair usage policy with these streaming services exempt, the 1tb allowance should be just for 'downloading' e.g. games, large files, movies and projects.

Why would they do that when they're less likely to be able to overcharge people?

daraghwal

spix wrote: »

Why would they do that when they're less likely to be able to overcharge people?

Eventually the the overcharging will lead to customers getting sick of them and leaving (again).