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Eir rural FTTH thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    There was a recent query on duct size here, this is the duct eir are installing in my area where the fibre run goes underground between certain poles, 20/16 mm radius (½" heavy gauge)

    DSC_0078.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭brianbruff


    damienirel wrote: »
    Yeah i thought they were kinda obsolete after ac wireless became popular.

    Problem is that AC marketing is just that marketing, the absolute best you'll get our of an AC Pro is about 600Mbps, and with that you'll have to switch off everything that makes the Unifi system so attractive, (DPI, Guest access, etc etc).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 Sytax Error


    Gwynston wrote: »
    Are those wifi speeds through the Eir-supplied unit or do you have that wired to something better?

    I know some people have reported problems with the Eir wifi unit, but do we know for sure that everyone has problems? Or are some getting OK performance out of it?

    That is with the eir supplied unit. Read all the threads here about performance issues, but have to say working fine so far...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭Peppa Cig


    Hi

    I have a 100mb TP Link switch on place ahead of FTTH

    1. Are these 100mb per port or 100mb capacity across all ports?

    2. If 100mb each port Any benefits upgrading to GB switch? (I assume nothing connected currently will demand more than 100mb)

    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Peppa Cig wrote: »
    Hi

    I have a 100mb TP Link switch on place ahead of FTTH

    1. Are these 100mb per port or 100mb capacity across all ports?

    2. If 100mb each port Any benefits upgrading to GB switch? (I assume nothing connected currently will demand more than 100mb)

    Thanks

    1) It is 100Mb per port.

    2) That is a personal preference. If you are happy that no device will have access to greater than 100Mb then leave it as is. Personally I would upgrade, a decent gigabit switch is not too expensive.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭Peppa Cig


    1) It is 100Mb per port.

    2) That is a personal preference. If you are happy that no device will have access to greater than 100Mb then leave it as is. Personally I would upgrade, a decent gigabit switch is not too expensive.

    Thanks Navi

    What would need >100mb feed in domestic situation?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Peppa Cig wrote: »
    Thanks Navi

    What would need >100mb feed in domestic situation?

    Nothing really needs it. It is just if you are paying for 300 or 1000Mb your switch would be a limiting factor. You could only download at 100Mb so 200 or 900Mb is going to waste. At 150Mb it probably doesn't make much difference if you leave the existing switch in place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭Peppa Cig


    Nothing really needs it. It is just if you are paying for 300 or 1000Mb your switch would be a limiting factor. You could only download at 100Mb so 200 or 900Mb is going to waste. At 150Mb it probably doesn't make much difference if you leave the existing switch in place.

    Gotcha
    Understand now
    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    What....... 😂

    Quarterly updates will be published on the Departments website. The Q1 2017 update will be published shortly and the eir rollout is in line with the Commitment Agreement. I am advised that in the period from 1 January to end March 2017, 30,064 premises have been passed. This brings to 40,114 the total subset of the 300k premises that eir has passed since they commenced work in late 2016. Of those, over 1,400 premises have been connected.

    https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2017-05-10a.564&s=national+broadband+plan#g566.r


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Peppa Cig wrote: »
    Hi

    I have a 100mb TP Link switch on place ahead of FTTH

    1. Are these 100mb per port or 100mb capacity across all ports?

    2. If 100mb each port Any benefits upgrading to GB switch? (I assume nothing connected currently will demand more than 100mb)

    Thanks

    As navi has said, it's 100Mb per port - but that includes the port connected to the router. That means that not only is 100Mb the most you can get out of any one device connected through the switch; it's the most you can get in total through the switch - so you can't download at 75Mb with one device and 75Mb with another.

    All that said, that still leaves 50Mb for any wirelessly connected devices, so it might not be a problem in practical terms.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭Peppa Cig


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    As navi has said, it's 100Mb per port - but that includes the port connected to the router. That means that not only is 100Mb the most you can get out of any one device connected through the switch; it's the most you can get in total through the switch - so you can't download at 75Mb with one device and 75Mb with another.

    All that said, that still leaves 50Mb for any wirelessly connected devices, so it might not be a problem in practical terms.

    Thanks for reply

    Just ordered a couple of gigabit switches from Amazon

    Any want to buy a couple of 100mb switches? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    Is there anyone who we can contact to try and be added to the FTTH network?

    The yellow line stops 350 metre from my house. I can see all of the individual houses with the light blue circle on them selected for FTTH. I can see the route it takes. What makes them choose one house over another? I can see it passing many.

    I wish for them to extend the line to my house. I dont want to wait until works are in progress and its too late, I want to apply pressure now.

    Anyone any idea?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    I wish for them to extend the line to my house. I dont want to wait until works are in progress and its too late, I want to apply pressure now.

    Anyone any idea?

    You wont get it changed. You'll be covered under the NBP so you'll still get it, just later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    ED E wrote: »
    You wont get it changed. You'll be covered under the NBP so you'll still get it, just later.

    How did they decide which houses get it and which dont? Why do they pass houses on the same road? It seems quite random.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭fbradyirl


    Hey all. There were some engineers around our estate yesterday for a short while. Someone asked them and they said they were Eir and working on high speed broadband.

    I checked and our estate homes are marked light blue as part of the extra 300K commitment.

    See attached for a snap my CCTV got of them. I guess that round yokey is for measuring distance?

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    My question is, what kind of time frame should we expect from now until connection? It would be ducting as there are no poles here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    How did they decide which houses get it and which dont? Why do they pass houses on the same road? It seems quite random.
    We don't know what logic they used, around my area the houses passed could be 50m or more from the road but then again other houses could be this or more distance and they've been included. Regarding the houses passed I'm not sure if they have an active phone line currently or if this was even a factor.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    fbradyirl wrote: »
    I guess that round yokey is for measuring distance?

    It's a long rod for pushing through ducting, and when it emerges at the other end you attach the end of a fibre cable (or microduct bundle) to it and pull it back through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭TireeTerror


    I wonder how difficult it would be to create a private wireless network to a neighbours connection. Im high on a hill and have perfect line of sight to 4 houses which are getting FTTH.

    Something like what Imagine or Net1 use could do it I suppose.

    I could pay for the neighbours connection and share it! Thats how desperate I am to get off Imagine and their 20GB data allowance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    I wonder how difficult it would be to create a private wireless network to a neighbours connection. Im high on a hill and have perfect line of sight to 4 houses which are getting FTTH.

    Something like what Imagine or Net1 use could do it I suppose.

    I could pay for the neighbours connection and share it! Thats how desperate I am to get off Imagine and their 20GB data allowance.

    About ?150-200. Its easy stuff.

    It also breaks their contract with their provider.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭Pangea


    http://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/rteradiowebpage.html#!rii=b9%5F10722936%5F172%5F13%2D05%2D2017%5F

    Interview with the women overseeing the Broadband rollout this morning on RTE Radio 1 (starts at 4:30 in)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Gonzo wrote: »
    Wifi on laptops, games consoles and sky box's is generally fine.

    It's smartphones and tablets where the issue lies (all brands).
    Very intermittent performance despite full signal all the time, usually up to 20 second wait before something will load then it will work for maybe a minute and stop working again, untill you kick it into action again later on.

    Has anyone fixed this problem yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭fbradyirl


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    It's a long rod for pushing through ducting, and when it emerges at the other end you attach the end of a fibre cable (or microduct bundle) to it and pull it back through.

    Thanks Oscar. So is that just for short distances like from the kerb to the house? Or longer like from main road into an estate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,589 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Hmmm all very confusing.
    I have the option for FTTH for 3 weeks now but have not ordered and my internet is 0.72 , not even 1 !
    What is best package? Why is there lots of talk about how to install, basically telling them how to do their job.
    What is a ''gig switch'' ?
    Do I need Cables to all rooms?
    Why put in attic ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭daraghwal


    Hmmm all very confusing.
    I have the option for FTTH for 3 weeks now but have not ordered and my internet is 0.72 , not even 1 !
    What is best package? Why is there lots of talk about how to install, basically telling them how to do their job.
    What is a ''gig switch'' ?
    Do I need Cables to all rooms?
    Why put in attic ?
    The best package is up to you and you're personal preference. I would advise the 150Mb package if you just do the usual browsing, watching netflix and youtube etc. If you're more of a gamer and download a lot of data you could be better getting the 300Mb package. Presently there is no need for the 1000Mb package or even the 300Mb package for a lot of people and most devices don't actually support the 1000Mb.

    There's lots of talk of installs as people just have an interest in how it is going to work at their own home. Not everyone's is the same and some have problems that other people here have the solution for etc. Many people are having issues with installs and others just want to have everything right before the installers come to get them connected.

    If you're not familiar with a switch it's basically to divide one connection of the ethernet cable coming from someone's router to different devices. Think of it as an extension lead with more sockets on it but for ethernet cables and not plugs. The gig part is just that the switch supports 1000Mb. This is a switch http://content.us.dlink.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/DGS-105-C2-Side.png

    No, you don't need cables to every room. It will work in the same way as your existing setup but some people are finding the wifi a bit of an issue with the new router supplied by eir.

    Some people just want it in the attic out of the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,982 ✭✭✭long_b


    Hmmm all very confusing.
    I have the option for FTTH for 3 weeks now but have not ordered and my internet is 0.72 , not even 1 !
    What is best package? Why is there lots of talk about how to install, basically telling them how to do their job.
    What is a ''gig switch'' ?
    Do I need Cables to all rooms?
    Why put in attic ?

    55 for 150Mb/63 for 300Mb/75 for 1Gb
    Some people are very particular over wires showing around their house.
    Network gear is classified by the speeds which it can allow data to be transferred. Comes as either 100Mb or 1000Mb = 1Gb. A switch is a device with multiple Ethernet ports which allows you to connect multiple deviced to your network.
    You only need cables if you're keen on getting the absolute maximum speed. Most good wireless routers will be fine.
    Attic usually lets you position router centrally for best wifi coverage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭yammagamma


    chewed wrote: »
    Sorry to hear your woes! But glad I'm not the only one. Their customer service is a complete mess and totally disconnected from each department. It's 2017 and they can't just re-update the order and proceed! Why do they need to cancel and re-register details again????


    hence i cancelled my order for ftth when girl on phone insisted i had to get a phoneline installed first then ftth then i could cancel phoneline with cooling off period

    i rang digiweb and ordered with them,,,
    and you can get 30 euro credit if your refeered and the existing customer gets 30 euro credit also so if you want me to refer you


    https://www.digiweb.ie/referafriend/


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    fbradyirl wrote: »
    Thanks Oscar. So is that just for short distances like from the kerb to the house? Or longer like from main road into an estate?

    I think a reel that size is about 250m, so any duct segment that's that distance or less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭yammagamma


    Jpmarn wrote: »
    What exchange is this work being done in your photos? There was similar work done in the Inch St Lawernce Limerick area in the last 2 months. I was hoping for fibre cables to come out in the next couple of weeks. But it could be later in the summer or into early autumn before we see anything. I think delays may caused by that there is some bush cutting to do in spots to clear the lines. But they might not be allowed to do this work until 1 August due to bird nesting season.

    some of the ftth cables from inch st lawerance exchange is using the old water ducting as new water pipes were layed a few years ago so the old water ducting is empty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭plodder


    Pangea wrote: »
    http://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/rteradiowebpage.html#!rii=b9%5F10722936%5F172%5F13%2D05%2D2017%5F

    Interview with the women overseeing the Broadband rollout this morning on RTE Radio 1 (starts at 4:30 in)
    Interesting that she was quite sceptical that people will have any use for the 1Gbit service.


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  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    plodder wrote: »
    Interesting that she was quite sceptical that people will have any use for the 1Gbit service.
    To be perfectly honest, so am I.
    The average home user simply isn't going to need that capacity on a day to day basis.
    It's a bit like having your water supply fed in on a 150mm pipe!


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