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Winter Weather 2015/16 : See Mod Note Post #1
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Yodeling Snake wrote: »Extreme events such as the deep freezes of those two freak winters in a row we had a few years back are highly unlikely.
We get them on average about once every seven years (though they tend to cluster a bit) - so there is always hope.
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Schadenfreudia wrote: »We get them on average about once every seven years (though they tend to cluster a bit) - so there is always hope.
Not like the two deep freezes that went on for weeks and weeks two years in a row like a few years back. We don't get those every 7 years mate. The last time we had a cold spell that lasted weeks like those two recent ones was November 84. As I said and I'll repeat myself again we don't get those. We may get a week long freeze once every seven years but the deep freezes I'm referring to of recent years that went on for weeks are extremely rare occurrences.0 -
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Yodeling Snake wrote: »Not like the two deep freezes that went on for weeks and weeks two years in a row like a few years back. We don't get those every 7 years mate. The last time we had a cold spell that lasted weeks like those two recent ones was November 84. As I said and I'll repeat myself again we don't get those. We may get a week long freeze once every seven years but the deep freezes I'm referring to of recent years that went on for weeks are extremely rare occurrences.
December 2010 was completely exceptional but the freeze still only lasted 4 weeks with a break in the middle!
But we had "weeks long" deep freeze conditions here in 78/79, 80/81, 82, 86, 01, 09, 10 - that's seven times in the past 35 years...once every 5 years!
We had a month long freeze in Feb 86...but no snow; we had a foot of snow in 87 - but it lasted only 4 days. No recollection of November 84...
I think, mate, you'd need to define what you mean by a "weeks long deep freeze" before we trade memories/records
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Schadenfreudia wrote: »December 2010 was completely exceptional but the freeze still only lasted 4 weeks with a break in the middle!
But we had "weeks long" deep freeze conditions here in 78/79, 80/81, 82, 86, 01, 09, 10 - that's seven times in the past 35 years...once every 5 years!
We had a month long freeze in Feb 86...but no snow; we had a foot of snow in 87 - but it lasted only 4 days. No recollection of November 84...
I think, mate, you'd need to define what you mean by a "weeks long deep freeze" before we trade memories/records
Though me and you weren't alive, go and check out the Winters of 1946/47 and 1962/63 if you haven't already Photography site - https://www.sryanbruenphoto.com/
Weather photo portfolio - https://sryanbruen.myportfolio.com/weather-1
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sryanbruen wrote: »Though me and you weren't alive, go and check out the Winters of 1946/47 and 1962/63 if you haven't already
Well, I can't include them 'cos I'd miss all the bits in between, In terms of severity + longevity nothing has matched them; Dec 10 was colder than either and snowy...but not as long as either or as snowy as '47.
There was a very cold and snowy spell in Dublin in 1969 for about three weeks...it was during a school strike...they were still talking about it as recently as '75!
(there is a brilliant book about the snow of 1947 http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/ireland/article842857.ece)
OK - try this link instead
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Schadenfreudia wrote: »Well, I can't include them 'cos I'd miss all the bits in between, In terms of severity + longevity nothing has matched them; Dec 10 was colder than either and snowy...but not as long as either or as snowy as '47.
There was a very cold and snowy spell in Dublin in 1969 for about three weeks...it was during a school strike...they were still talking about it as recently as '75!
Yeah.. did you ever hear about the England snow on 2 June 1975?
Thank god this June wasn't like that despite the cold! Photography site - https://www.sryanbruenphoto.com/
Weather photo portfolio - https://sryanbruen.myportfolio.com/weather-1
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sryanbruen wrote: »Yeah.. did you ever hear about the England snow on 2 June 1975? Thank god this June wasn't like that despite the cold!
Yep...there were photos in the papers of cricket stumps covered in snow at abandoned matches !
http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/462037.html0 -
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sryanbruen wrote: »Though me and you weren't alive, go and check out the Winters of 1946/47 and 1962/63 if you haven't already
Would loved to have lived through both of those winters, but I reckon 1962-1963 was probably just a colder and windier version of 2009-2010.
The blizzard of 24 - 26th Feb 1947 is something so rare in Ireland that I doubt we'll see the likes of it again for many many years. I recall my grandmother telling me that after the blizzard was over, the only parts of the houses that were visible were the chimney pots such was the depth of snow and the level of drifting due to the severe easterly winds.
This synoptic analysis chart from the UK Met Office for Feb 26th 1947 shows just how nasty that period of weather was with deep Atlantic lows clashing with Arctic air right over Ireland.
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Would loved to have lived through both of those winters, but I reckon 1962-1963 was probably just a colder and windier version of 2009-2010.
The blizzard of 24 - 26th Feb 1947 is something so rare in Ireland that I doubt we'll see the likes of it again for many many years. I recall my grandmother telling me that after the blizzard was over, the only parts of the houses that were visible were the chimney pots such was the depth of snow and the level of drifting due to the severe easterly winds.
This synoptic analysis chart from the UK Met Office for Feb 26th 1947 shows just how nasty that period of weather was with deep Atlantic lows clashing with Arctic air right over Ireland.
I would hate that, but then I don't like the cold, would probably mean no power, so no phone as phone goes dead, no internet or TV, roofs collapsing, lots of deaths of people and livestock.
Stories I heard, the snow was so high that you couldn't see the ditches, cattle were very hungry as the feed from the summer of wasn't good due to a wet summer, stories of cattle eating thatch off roofs. a cousin of mine died as they couldn't get him a doctor.
Food was still rationed after the war.
The snow started to melt on St Patricks day, and given how high the drifts were it was into May before all the snow was gone.
Severe flooding in Kilkenny city, who would joke with the country people on the hills where the snow lasted, about them still having the snow. They would be told they would get it in water. It must have been near record flooding going from pictures.
An estimated 600 people died and thousands of livestock died due to hunger and cold.
It would be interesting to see but I think it would turn quickly into misery.0 -
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sryanbruen wrote: »Decent snowfall in my definition:
*March 2013
*December 2010
*November 2010
*January 2010
*December 2004 (White Christmas)
*February 2001
*November 1996
*December 1993
*February 1991
So that would count as 6 Winters with some heavy snow (at least 15cm recorded) in my area.
Plus it's confusing that you say "Another mild" when last Winter was colder than normal - not exceptionally so.
Are you referring to the Winter before that which was very mild?
in the above years only 2010, 2001 and 1991 were good here. We had 2009 as well. March 2013 had several brief moments of snow which fell overnight and melted by noon each day which was a let down as the March sun melted snow on sight. March snow in general really annoys me because it's too little too late and rarely lasts more than a few hours.
December 2004 delivered about 3 inchs of snow during Christmas day here. It was great for the day that was in it but in terms of snowfall didnt last more than 4 or 5 hours on the ground before melting rapidly during nightfall.
The 1996 failed to happen here, there was loads of snow from blanch on wards into Dublin but not a flake fell here. (perhaps it was the IOM Shadow). 1993 I really don't remember anything from that year.
Decent snowfall in my definition is snow at least 4 or 5 inchs deep lasting several days on the ground.0 -
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