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Final Fantasy VII Remaster/Remake

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    #1712
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    It's an interesting debate
    All friendly just to be clear

    I just dont agree but I do admit I'm an FF7 fanboy :)


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    #1713
    quokula
    Registered Users Posts: 3,574 ✭✭✭quokula


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Repeat battles through areas from point a to point b can be classified as a grind

    Routine battles that are repetitive in nature

    Ff7 train yard is literally move trains in a row, very similar to flipping a switch all while getting caught in random battles

    I'm not seeing how this is any more Sophisticated

    There are not many games that have the concept of enemies that you battle / beat up / shoot at, where you don't engage the same enemy types repeatedly getting from point A to point B. I'm trying to think of any game where every battle is unique and Shadow of the Colossus is the only one I can think of.

    Grinding is not the same as facing the same enemies repeatedly in the normal course of play. Grinding is needing to halt progress and continually do some task in order to level up. It's needed for the high level optional bosses in most FF games, but I don't think I've ever needed to grind to just play through the main game in any Final Fantasy (from 7 onwards at least, haven't finished the older ones because they didn't grab my attention enough)


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    #1714
    Cina
    Registered Users Posts: 2,387 ✭✭✭Cina


    Anyone order from Amazon?

    My order was just dispatched but the estimated delivery date is now down as Apr 20th.

    It also says it's bring delivered by royal mail which is odd. I guess only until it's handed over to An Post or something?


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    #1715
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,883 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    one armed dwarf wrote: »
    I've beaten Matador retro, you do need to grind a bit to beat bosses like Lucifer if you go that far with things. The trap they pull on you in that game is they give you Dante (from the Devil May Cry series) and he's actually kind of crap and you can't fully remove him from your rotation. So if you invest in that guy you've already screwed yourself

    Off topic but I didn't need to grind at all. Had been through a few smt games at that point so realised how powerful stat buffs and debuffs were especially agility. I just built a demon team around agility and didn't find him tough at all. Once he gets to a point of whiffing attacks he is dead.

    Actually didn't find Nocturne crazy hard. Found it got easier as the game went on. Few tough battles but nothing as bad as Matador. Didn't do any grinding. However because of my knowledge of smt I stumbled my way into a very optimal build based on physical attacks. I also got rid of Dante when he started to go below the power curve of my other demons. Didn't have an issue using him.

    Nocturne is a strange one though. It's an update of the original game and much harder and meant for expert players. There was no true demon path or the tougher bosses like Matador and mother harlot in the original.
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    #1716
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,539 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    It's an interesting debate
    All friendly just to be clear

    I just dont agree but I do admit I'm an FF7 fanboy :)

    At least we can ALL agree that FF VII is the greatest rpg of all time.


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    #1717
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    went and bought the digital version of psn, all pre loaded now as well :) come on friday, i want all the nostalgia


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    #1718
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,883 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    At least we can ALL agree that FF VII is the greatest rpg of all time.

    Don't take the bait... Don't take the bait...
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    #1719
    ShaneU
    Registered Users Posts: 14,830 ✭✭✭✭ShaneU


    Definitely better than those Shin oragami wotsit games :pac: #overrated


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    #1720
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,539 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Don't take the bait... Don't take the bait...

    It's not even the best jrpg :)


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    #1721
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Don't take the bait... Don't take the bait...

    I'm more of Legend of Dragoon fan myself.


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    #1722
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    At least we can ALL agree that FF VII is the greatest rpg of all time.

    Well maybe not the best RPG of all time. But certainly better than most other games, like Ace Combat 7 for example.


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    #1723
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,539 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Well maybe not the best RPG of all time. But certainly better than most other games, like Ace Combat 7 for example.

    Ah that's just a low blow...


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    #1724
    [Deleted User]
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    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    It's not even the best jrpg :)

    Ace combat 7 is a flight sim tbf


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    #1725
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,050 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    tuxy wrote: »
    I'm more of Legend of Dragoon fan myself.

    Ahahaha was just gonna say that :D He's probably twitching with anger now :pac:


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    #1726
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 50,883 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Wetting myself laughing yah feckers.
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    #1727
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,169 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    The best RPG is the mobile classic Doom RPG. Still pull out the old Nokia to download it over WAP. You can really count those handful of pixels!


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    #1728
    FFVII
    Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    how does day 1 patch fix the physical disc?

    Or does it?


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    #1729
    ShaneU
    Registered Users Posts: 14,830 ✭✭✭✭ShaneU


    Does the Day 1 patch add in the last three quarters of the game?


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    #1730
    Barlett
    Registered Users Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Barlett


    The game is installed on your hard drive so it'll patch the files on the system.


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    #1731
    sniper_samurai
    Registered Users Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭sniper_samurai


    Barlett wrote: »
    The game is installed on your hard drive so it'll patch the files on the system.

    Yeah, expect that to take a good hour due to the half assed way the PS4 handles updates.

    You will need 93gb of free space to install the patch as the PS4 downloads the patch, copies the entire installation file, patches the file and then deletes the copy.


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    #1732
    FFVII
    Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    sniper_samurai wrote: »
    Yeah, expect that to take a good hour due to the half assed way the PS4 handles updates.

    You will need 93gb of free space to install the patch as the PS4 downloads the patch, copies the entire installation file, patches the file and then deletes the copy.

    Where do you go to get the patch?

    I bought PS4 especially for this. I don't use it.

    So I have to connect internet, does PS4 have WiFi?

    Will they fix this themselves if I buy it in a month? New batch??


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    #1733
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Yes it has wifi and ethernet. If you connect the PS4 to the internet it will download as part of the install. I don't think they will update the new disks, expect several patches lime all new games.


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    #1734
    [Deleted User]
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    The soundtrack is incredible


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    #1735
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,050 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    FFVII wrote: »
    Where do you go to get the patch?

    I bought PS4 especially for this. I don't use it.

    So I have to connect internet, does PS4 have WiFi?

    Will they fix this themselves if I buy it in a month? New batch??

    It will Download it automatically if you're connected via wifi.


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    #1736
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Greatest response to a cat ever

    "This sucks"

    You will know when you do the quest


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    #1737
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,050 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    So what chapter are yis all on ? 25 hours left and I can play at last.


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    #1738
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,539 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Greatest response to a cat ever

    "This sucks"

    You will know when you do the quest

    I'm loving the stupid yakuza-esque side quests. Also being given the option off transporting straight to quest giver once you complete a quest is genius.


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    #1739
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Sephiroth_dude wrote: »
    So what chapter are yis all on ? 25 hours left and I can play at last.

    Without spoiling anything I'm on chapter 3. Loads of little neat side missions.

    All the characters seem really fleshed out. Even the ones on side quests so far.

    Loads of little touches like nearly every NPC you walk past has something to say and it's spoken verbally and not via text.


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    #1740
    RedXIV
    Registered Users Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    emailed square support, apparently my game is still sitting in the warehouse :(

    I'm not likely to get it for friday :(


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    #1741
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,539 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Sephiroth_dude wrote: »
    So what chapter are yis all on ? 25 hours left and I can play at last.

    Still on 3, all sidequests in this chapter done (handy it shows you how many so you don't miss any), currently can't stop playing darts til I'm top of the leaderboard.


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