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Final Fantasy VII Remaster/Remake
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Listened to Kat Bailey on her podcast explaining the review.
It sounds like when it's good it's really good but can also be totally tedious at times. She said it's very obvious when there is padding with dungeon design that is very poor. Standard switch flipping stuff. Dungeons just go on for way too long and get very boring. Side quests are just mmo fetch quests. Says the story additions are kingdom hearts level terrible. It's also missing the somber atmosphere the original had due to trying to be so action packed and pointed out the train graveyard as an example of everything wrong with the game. Not a good game to binge as it has long unbroken sections of tedium.
Lots of good to say about it as well. Lots of areas amazed her visually. The characters she loved. Combat system works great but the boss battles are a major highlight. And summons looked gorgeous. Their guides editor was on as well who never played the original but agreed with her.
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Retr0gamer wrote: »Listened to Kat Bailey on her podcast explaining the review.
It sounds like when it's good it's really good but can also be totally tedious at times. She said it's very obvious when there is padding with dungeon design that is very poor. Standard switch flipping stuff. Dungeons just go on for way too long and get very boring. Side quests are just mmo fetch quests. Says the story additions are kingdom hearts level terrible. It's also missing the somber atmosphere the original had due to trying to be so action packed and pointed out the train graveyard as an example of everything wrong with the game. Not a good game to binge as it has long unbroken sections of tedium.
Lots of good to say about it as well. Lots of areas amazed her visually. The characters she loved. Combat system works great but the boss battles are a major highlight. And summons looked gorgeous. Their guides editor was on as well who never played the original but agreed with her.
Because I rarely get to binge, I tend to be able to soak up a lot more tedium than most so this doesn't phase me at much. What is disappointing is the lack of the sombre mood from the original. in Midgar in particular, the world was presented very well to help dictate the mood of the plot and I think that will be a massive loss.
However! Hearing that the characters and the occasional area of visual awe are very inspiring. The Characters are what swung it for me originally, and what I've seen of them in the trailers and the demo make me optimistic that they have captured the original spirit of them.
Now if the postman would just kindly get his arse here with the game I'd be able to start playing it!
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Oh Retro, just go and marry Kat Bailey!!
jk
so, you planning on picking it up or waiting?
I can wait. It's obviously going to get a much improved next gen version which the PC release will be based on. Got a lot of great RPGs in the backlog to go through as well so not like I'm crying out for a new one.
Also my new consoles and PC are all in the place I rent and the lock down has me stuck in my parents until I have to go back in to work so I've kind of no way of playing it!Doctor Jimbob wrote: »The Kingdom Hearts references are giving me the fear.
It's only the new story additions though. She did like it when it kept to the script of original.
She also said some fans might like the additions but had her scratching her head thinking what the actual ****.
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Because I rarely get to binge, I tend to be able to soak up a lot more tedium than most so this doesn't phase me at much. What is disappointing is the lack of the sombre mood from the original. in Midgar in particular, the world was presented very well to help dictate the mood of the plot and I think that will be a massive loss.
However! Hearing that the characters and the occasional area of visual awe are very inspiring. The Characters are what swung it for me originally, and what I've seen of them in the trailers and the demo make me optimistic that they have captured the original spirit of them.
Now if the postman would just kindly get his arse here with the game I'd be able to start playing it!
I am the same with you here. What I was getting from the opening cutscene in the demo is that there will be a 2 tier city so am not surprised it will be all grimy as the original was.
As for "dungeons" and fetch quests wait tell you want to collect all materia0 -
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Doorbell rang. Never moved as fast in my life as the postie never rings unless there is a package.
Everyone can relax, my wife's makeup subscription box arrived.
Just had the same with a delivery driver looking for my neighbours 2 doors down, my eyes lit up, it was DPD and everything, visions of exploring Midgar for the day flashed before my eyes, except he had a microwave, but no, I only got a new microwave a few weeks ago, back to work....
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What's with the Kingdom Hearts references? I played one yonks ago briefly and didn't care for it.
Well it's more that the story in kingdom hearts games is utter undefendable garbage. It's way overcomplicated for what is a simple story and just incredibly badly written. I think the story additions feel more like kingdom hearts because of the influence of Nomura in the team who is in charge of kingdom Hearts rather than Nojima who was the original scenario writer.
As Kat Bailey said, it feels more like modern square and modern square is kingdom hearts.
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johnny_ultimate wrote: »Hmm, for me tedium and padding is the deadliest sin in any game, so this thread doesn’t fill me with confidence that this is for me
Well there's good filler and bad filler. The reactor 5 stuff I mentioned, but I'm on chapter 9 which has a lengthy filler section in itinvolving a colloseum and a somewhat aggressive inhabitable spaceand maybe it's the best part in the game for me.
What I'm taking away from it more is it's less like a remake of FFVII and more a 'reunion' with its central characters if I may dare to be so cheesy. As time goes on I become less annoyed by the very slow pace of it all.
Which is partly why I wonder if there's much here on offer to people who don't already have a relationship with the original game.0 -
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