Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 ***Updated Mod Note Post 1***

Alf Tupper

TyrionPower wrote: »

have you considered conselling?

Don't know what "conselling" is but maybe you should consider some counselling!

btw, as for abusing lads, you were the guy on here yesterday who dismissed a whole collection of lads who had worn the county jersey with distinction as whingers and moaners!

PTH2009

JeffKenna wrote: »

Footballers 5 v 2 points down after 9 minutes. Bad start, especially at home.

same old story, winning the mcgrath cup was just a freak result 0-7-0-2 now

TyrionPower

Alf Tupper wrote: »

Don't know what "conselling" is but maybe you should consider some counselling!

btw, as for abusing lads, you were the guy on here yesterday who dismissed a whole collection of lads who had worn the county jersey with distinction as whingers and moaners!

Cheers for the tip, now next stop for you is the golden pages to find one, at least try and get some sleep -
and I never came on here and abused anyone.

Speaking of the Jersey - this lesson in how the All-Blacks approach it is somehting you should read and try to understand - this is the exact point I was making about the county Jersey.

The black jersey is a very powerful thing. Everyone is so proud of representing New Zealand and playing for the All Blacks but we see it as borrowing the black jersey and just keeping it warm ready for the next player.

If someone doesnt want a jersey - to retire, to go to the states, to do whatever - there will always be someone there to take his place

JeffKenna

PTH2009 wrote: »

same old story, winning the mcgrath cup was just a freak result 0-7-0-2 now

A point down now at half time!

KevIRL

Ht Offaly 0-9_Waterford 1-5

KevIRL

1-20 1-7 now.

Hammer Archer

Alf Tupper and TyrionPower, stop the childishness!
Literally not a single person wants to read it.

redlead

That's shocking stuff, especially considering that Offaly are pure sh1thouse. It's completely pointless sending out a half interested county football team if this is the end result. It's just a waste of resources that could be better used elsewhere. Until there's enough people that are willing to take it seriously then we should be doing a Cavan on it.

Mountainlad

Is Peter Queally managing Passage still? Thought somebody told me he was in charge of Shamrocks this year

stumblingblock

redlead wrote: »

That's shocking stuff, especially considering that Offaly are pure sh1thouse. It's completely pointless sending out a half interested county football team if this is the end result. It's just a waste of resources that could be better used elsewhere. Until there's enough people that are willing to take it seriously then we should be doing a Cavan on it.

To be fair if anyone can help lift football in the county its current chairman PJ Ryan. As far as I'm aware hes trying to organise a think-in with a root and branch review of football in the county in the coming months. Hes got in contact with some of the best football men in the county to try and get them on board aswell as seeking outside help aswell. Who knows if anything good will come out of it but at least its a genuine attempt to move things in the right direction, as opposed to the usual lip service paid by his predecessors.

archieknox

Mountainlad wrote: »

Is Peter Queally managing Passage still? Thought somebody told me he was in charge of Shamrocks this year

He's training both.

Top drawer

archieknox wrote: »

He's training both.

How does he work in both timewise? I wudnt be happy knowing my manager is not giving everything he has for my club, hes obviously doin a great job in passage, its working out for him, conflict of interests surely even if they are in seperate divisions

thegambler2

Top drawer wrote: »

How does he work in both timewise? I wudnt be happy knowing my manager is not giving everything he has for my club, hes obviously doin a great job in passage, its working out for him, conflict of interests surely even if they are in seperate divisions

Shamrocks must be paying well, he has picked to manage two teams from completely opposite ends of the county!

thegambler2

Has Billy Nolan broken his shoulder..??

thesultan

thegambler2 wrote: »

Shamrocks must be paying well, he has picked to manage two teams from completely opposite ends of the county![/QUOTE} He's based in Youghal so close to the Shamrocks

conditioned games

The Cats and Tipp are looking very good again this year. Munster final looks like will be on at the Gaelic grounds. I hope our lads are not as naive by following the tipp forwards out the field and leaving lots of space. Looking forward to it already.

archieknox

First things first I'm delighted with the victory for Dungarvan whom showed great fighting spirit to come back from 6pts down late on to win by 3 but the scenes in the first half were scandalous. Frightening,dangerous and if it happened at any protest marches or after nightclubs throughout the county there would be custodial sentences handed out. It was a disgrace from both teams and has no place on a GAA field. What I would say is if the referee had stamped his authority on proceedings a few minutes earlier things might not have got out of control but how only 2 players saw red from the fracas is beyond me. In truth the game could/should have been abandoned.

thegambler2

archieknox wrote: »

First things first I'm delighted with the victory for Dungarvan whom showed great fighting spirit to come back from 6pts down late on to win by 3 but the scenes in the first half were scandalous. Frightening,dangerous and if it happened at any protest marches or after nightclubs throughout the county there would be custodial sentences handed out. It was a disgrace from both teams and has no place on a GAA field. What I would say is if the referee had stamped his authority on proceedings a few minutes earlier things might not have got out of control but how only 2 players saw red from the fracas is beyond me. In truth the game could/should have been abandoned.

Who was the referee? And also what were the highlights of the scuffle?

skaface

Tipperary it is in the Munster Final
Presumably it will be on in Limerick
Set up nicely for us.. We will be complete Underdogs , no pressure on us..

ShamoBuc

Tip played very well today, Eamonn O'Shea pre match comment - there's a party atmosphere here in Limerick today, so we'll see! Their focus is on winning Munster, no doubt about it! It really sets up a cracker of a final. At this stage I reckon its toss of a coin between ye. Hopefully there will be 2 fully fit teams and a cracker of a game.

Top drawer

thegambler2 wrote: »

Who was the referee? And also what were the highlights of the scuffle?

Dessie o ****ing leary, man came out of retirement to ruin more games

SkipFC

Top four in each group go to quarter finals in senior, is it? Or how does it work?

DiscoStew

SkipFC wrote: »

Top four in each group go to quarter finals in senior, is it? Or how does it work?

Top 4 go through to quarters, first in group 1 plays fourth in group 2 and so on.
Bottom in both groups play in relegation playoff then.
5th place teams season ends after the group stages.

PTH2009

A deff sell out if the final is in limerick. The last time the final was in thurles was 2010 (drawn game and replay ) so it must be there turn but with tipp in the final it has to be nuetral.

archieknox

SkipFC wrote: »

Top four in each group go to quarter finals in senior, is it? Or how does it work?

Top 4 in each group go to the quarter finals and the bottom two from each group play in the relegation final.
Bad news and bad luck on Billy Nolan with his shoulder injury. Not nice to see a young man being stretchered off to a waiting ambulance. Hope he recovers fully from it. Hard luck on the u21 team aswell as I believe Seanie Barry has left for America with his brother after their defeat Fri to Passage. I presume it will be Sean Daly from Abbeyside will get the call now if Nolan is ruled out.
The difference in both games was very evident today as the Roanmore/Cappoquin game was a poor fair. Both honest in their endeavour but both lacking real quality aswell. Roanmore won't be too bothered as they are now surely qualified for the knockout stages. Gavin O Brien must have covered every blade of grass during the 60 mins he was immense. Aron O Sullivan for Cappoquin is turning into a fine player and if he had any help from the rest of his forwards they might have been alot closer at the end. Shane O Rourke started well but fizzled out of it completely as the game went on.
Dungarvan will be thrilled with the win,especially as we dug out an unlikely victory with 10 mins to go. We're still in trouble in a few positions but when we needed them most both cathal Curran and Kieran Power thundered into the game and yet again Paddy Curran was very good throughout. Colm Curran will miss the next game having received a straight red alot with Austin Gleeson but I still think we'll have enough to see off Cappoquin and Roanmore.

thegambler2

archieknox wrote: »

Top 4 in each group go to the quarter finals and the bottom two from each group play in the relegation final.
Bad news and bad luck on Billy Nolan with his shoulder injury. Not nice to see a young man being stretchered off to a waiting ambulance. Hope he recovers fully from it. Hard luck on the u21 team aswell as I believe Seanie Barry has left for America with his brother after their defeat Fri to Passage. I presume it will be Sean Daly from Abbeyside will get the call now if Nolan is ruled out.
The difference in both games was very evident today as the Roanmore/Cappoquin game was a poor fair. Both honest in their endeavour but both lacking real quality aswell. Roanmore won't be too bothered as they are now surely qualified for the knockout stages. Gavin O Brien must have covered every blade of grass during the 60 mins he was immense. Aron O Sullivan for Cappoquin is turning into a fine player and if he had any help from the rest of his forwards they might have been alot closer at the end. Shane O Rourke started well but fizzled out of it completely as the game went on.
Dungarvan will be thrilled with the win,especially as we dug out an unlikely victory with 10 mins to go. We're still in trouble in a few positions but when we needed them most both cathal Curran and Kieran Power thundered into the game and yet again Paddy Curran was very good throughout. Colm Curran will miss the next game having received a straight red alot with Austin Gleeson but I still think we'll have enough to see off Cappoquin and Roanmore.

Sean Daly injured at the moment too, back and knee problems I think! No goalkeeper 🙈

Deskjockey

When is the last time Waterford won in the championship in Limerick?

PTH2009

Deskjockey wrote: »

When is the last time Waterford won in the championship in Limerick?

Never in recent times the last time we played there was the famous day in 2008 when Clare beat us . We don't even have a great league record in Limerick we drew there last Feb

KevIRL

PaddyPower make the Munster Final Tipp 1/2, Waterford 15/8. Its Tipp 11/10 with a 3 point handicap.

So Tipp resounding favourites then. Not unexpected at all, and I'd fancy the handicap line might move a fair bit before the game in 3 weeks, maybe out as far as 6 points.

All this of course suits our lads. Minimum expectation and we'll just take it into our stride

Nonoperational

I'd be absolutely amazed if Tipp didn't win well.

DeiseDawg

thegambler2 wrote: »

Who was the referee? And also what were the highlights of the scuffle?

Referee was way too slow in getting to the row that started the whole fracas. He walked past another Mr sion and dungarvan player laying into each other and went to consult his umpires while all hell was breaking loose with about 20 players and mentors now involved. If he had calmed things down before going to his umpires this embarrassment may have been averted. Don't know who started it, so not laying the blame on either club, but referee could have quelled it when there was only two players involved. Then when it was too late he started flashing yellows, many of which were mind boggling decisions.

TyrionPower

Terrible news about Billy Nolan - gutted for the lad - a nicer youngfellas you couldn't meet, we were caught for a goalie before he made the step up to the 21s, who can we turn to now?

hurlinbanter

TyrionPower wrote: »

Terrible news about Billy Nolan - gutted for the lad - a nicer youngfellas you couldn't meet, we were caught for a goalie before he made the step up to the 21s, who can we turn to now?

also gutted for billy terrible to see any player injured like that ..didn'think seanie barry was gone to america yet is he even definite about going anywhere?

archieknox

thegambler2 wrote: »

Sean Daly injured at the moment too, back and knee problems I think! No goalkeeper 🙈

Oh good god is he? Disaster so. Hopefully Billy Nolan's injury isn't as bad as first thought so.

TyrionPower

hurlinbanter wrote: »

also gutted for billy terrible to see any player injured like that ..didn'think seanie barry was gone to america yet is he even definite about going anywhere?

Even if we had a minor goalie from this year or last year to turn to but that was billy!
It's a shame, he is a cracking player, feel really sorry for the lad

archieknox

TyrionPower wrote: »

Terrible news about Billy Nolan - gutted for the lad - a nicer youngfellas you couldn't meet, we were caught for a goalie before he made the step up to the 21s, who can we turn to now?

Again you are stirring it with your post but please god nobody takes the bait and we can have ADULT discussions on here instead of point scoring. You know that that wasn't the case so please try to keep to the script!

revisionist

Hardly fair if both teams and a blackguard from one team in particular set out to cause mayhem. The referee can hardly be expected to hold back the tide, the responsibility to behave is entirely on the participants...

coopdog85

Could someone list the teams as per the programme for the Mt.Sion game please?

TyrionPower

revisionist wrote: »

Hardly fair if both teams and a blackguard from one team in particular set out to cause mayhem. The referee can hardly be expected to hold back the tide, the responsibility to behave is entirely on the participants...

What were the sendings off for striking with hurleys?

archieknox

DeiseDawg wrote: »

Referee was way too slow in getting to the row that started the whole fracas. He walked past another Mr sion and dungarvan player laying into each other and went to consult his umpires while all hell was breaking loose with about 20 players and mentors now involved. If he had calmed things down before going to his umpires this embarrassment may have been averted. Don't know who started it, so not laying the blame on either club, but referee could have quelled it when there was only two players involved. Then when it was too late he started flashing yellows, many of which were mind boggling decisions.

To be honest he was completely out of his dept as a referee. If blame is to be laid at anyone's door it must be the clowns that appointed him in the first place. Especially as last year's corresponding fixture had the same rumpus in it.

TyrionPower

archieknox wrote: »

Again you are stirring it with your post but please god nobody takes the bait and we can have ADULT discussions on here instead of point scoring. You know that that wasn't the case so please try to keep to the script!

Ah... Ok... I will be ignoring you from now on

revisionist

DeiseDawg wrote: »

Referee was way too slow in getting to the row that started the whole fracas. He walked past another Mr sion and dungarvan player laying into each other and went to consult his umpires while all hell was breaking loose with about 20 players and mentors now involved. If he had calmed things down before going to his umpires this embarrassment may have been averted. Don't know who started it, so not laying the blame on either club, but referee could have quelled it when there was only two players involved. Then when it was too late he started flashing yellows, many of which were mind boggling decisions.

Easy to blame the ref and to expect him to quell a row of 20 people laying into each other is ridiculous. What was he to do to earn his 30 euro ? Don a superman suit and sort out the perpetrators.All he has is a whistle His job is to ascertain the cause of the problem , what both teams and mentors do is beyond his control when carried out as a mob.

skaface

Does anyone know where the Munster Final
is going to be played ??
I know most are saying that it will be in Limerick,
but has there been any official announcement.

archieknox

TyrionPower wrote: »

Ah... Ok... I will be ignoring you from now on

Please do and when you eventually decide to go to a game make sure to enlighten us with your expert analysis by posting what you've seen and not heard on here! Bye for now xx

revisionist

archieknox wrote: »

To be honest he was completely out of his dept as a referee. If blame is to be laid at anyone's door it must be the clowns that appointed him in the first place. Especially as last year's corresponding fixture had the same rumpus in it.

Both teams should be punished as this is the second year in succession they have indulged in this sort of behaviour . This lack of discipline cannot be excused by the comment that in your opinion the referee was out of his depth. Again it is easy to excuse the many by blaming Dessie. Brian Gavin could have been in charge but both teams seemed more than anxious to indulge in the disgraceful scenes. And it was after just 8 miniutes which prompts me to think that it was little required to light the tinder.

archieknox

revisionist wrote: »

Both teams should be punished as this is the second year in succession they have indulged in this sort of behaviour . This lack of discipline cannot be excused by the comment that in your opinion the referee was out of his depth. Again it is easy to excuse the many by blaming Dessie. Brian Gavin could have been in charge but both teams seemed more than anxious to indulge in the disgraceful scenes. And it was after just 8 miniutes which prompts me to think that it was little required to light the tinder.

When a referee dictates from the start of any game and both teams can see he will not be taking any nonsense then more often than not the game will pass without much incident but as the game today showed when the ref is out of his dept its only natural that teams will push things to the limit and that's what happened here. I'm not excusing what happened but in a highly charged championship game all edges will be taken if players think they can get away with it.

JesusRef

Who was Mt.sions centre back? I can't believe he didn't get sent off - disgraceful pull across someone's head

skaface

Munster Council are to announce venue for Munster Final on Tuesday..
Hopefully common sense prevails, and we agree to play in Thurles.

JeffKenna

skaface wrote: »

Munster Council are to announce venue for Munster Final on Tuesday..
Hopefully common sense prevails, and we agree to play in Thurles.

I agree...traffic around the Gaelic grounds is a nightmare before and after the match, probably be more support head up to thurles than limerick.

stumblingblock

archieknox wrote: »

When a referee dictates from the start of any game and both teams can see he will not be taking any nonsense then more often than not the game will pass without much incident but as the game today showed when the ref is out of his dept its only natural that teams will push things to the limit and that's what happened here. I'm not excusing what happened but in a highly charged championship game all edges will be taken if players think they can get away with it.

Absolute nonsense argument. This is not like blaming the teacher for the kids misbehaving in school. This is about adults who have a duty to go out and not start swinging hurleys at the opposition and behaving like thugs. Both sets of players should be ashamed of themselves. You cannot do anything about the ref is but what you can do is ensure your team goes out and conducts themselves properly and plays the game in a sporting manner. Just be a man about it and face up to the fact that your club behaved appallingly.