Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 ***Updated Mod Note Post 1***

The Dickler

Ballygunner v Mount Sion
Fourmilewater v Roanmore
Passage v Tallow
Dungarvan v Ballyduff

Jaysus who'd have predicted that 8 at the start of the year.

Looking forward to a top class contest between Mount Sion and the Gunners.

But would you look at the remaining 3 matches.
If you took out Roanmore it looks like the line up for the Hillbilly Olympics.
It'll all end in tears I tell ya.

JesusRef

DiscoStew wrote: »

I think what he may be alluding to is the fact that Lismore were competitive, or even relatively so, in the majority of their games. Cappoquin on the other hand have received some hammerings from Mt Sion, Dungarvan and Passage.
Cappoquin showed great determination and no little skill to overturn Lismore but if Maurice hadn't been injured they could have been in for another hammering. Lismore lead by 7 shortly before half time when he went off and had been causing all sorts of problems. Credit to Cappoquin for getting the victory and surviving, especially given the upheaval at the club this year. Maybe they can build on it next year, especially if differences can be put aside.

This is exactly what I meant, I didn't mean that Lismore and DLS didn't deserve to be in relegation.
I was just expressing an opinion that the overall championship next year will be poorer with Cappoquin and the newly promoted intermediate champions in it and the absence of one of DLS and Lismore.

cookey123

Have heard mumblings of the potential to objections being lodged in regards relegation should it occur for certain clubs in both senior and intermediate as a result of the decision made last year not to relegate clashmore to junior, I know this was due to the restructuring of the championships however it could lead to an interesting debate as precedent has been set.

deisedude

cookey123 wrote: »

Have heard mumblings of the potential to objections being lodged in regards relegation should it occur for certain clubs in both senior and intermediate as a result of the decision made last year not to relegate clashmore to junior, I know this was due to the restructuring of the championships however it could lead to an interesting debate as precedent has been set.

I'd have no sympathy for a club that loses pretty much all their games and looks to stay up on a technicality

conditioned games

Tramore seem to lose the intermediate relegation playoff in the east every year but stay up. A period down junior might give them a chance to regroup and come back stronger rather than losing all their games at intermediate.

deiseach

conditioned games wrote: »

Tramore seem to lose the intermediate relegation playoff in the east every year but stay up. A period down junior might give them a chance to regroup and come back stronger rather than losing all their games at intermediate.

That was probably the thinking in the club when the footballers got relegated from senior. Several years on...

DiscoStew

conditioned games wrote: »

Tramore seem to lose the intermediate relegation playoff in the east every year but stay up. A period down junior might give them a chance to regroup and come back stronger rather than losing all their games at intermediate.

Did Tramore not reach an Eastern final in the last few years? Maybe my mind is playing tricks on me!

DiscoStew

The Dickler wrote: »

Ballygunner v Mount Sion
Fourmilewater v Roanmore
Passage v Tallow
Dungarvan v Ballyduff

Jaysus who'd have predicted that 8 at the start of the year.

Looking forward to a top class contest between Mount Sion and the Gunners.

But would you look at the remaining 3 matches.
If you took out Roanmore it looks like the line up for the Hillbilly Olympics.
It'll all end in tears I tell ya.

If your going to go to the bother of trying to get a reaction the least you could do is get the fixtures right!

Alf Tupper

The Dickler wrote: »

Ballygunner v Mount Sion
Fourmilewater v Roanmore
Passage v Tallow
Dungarvan v Ballyduff

Jaysus who'd have predicted that 8 at the start of the year.

Looking forward to a top class contest between Mount Sion and the Gunners.

But would you look at the remaining 3 matches.
If you took out Roanmore it looks like the line up for the Hillbilly Olympics.
It'll all end in tears I tell ya.

Could you tell us when and where the Passage v Tallow and Dungarvan v Ballyduff fixtures are on.

Deise Hurler

DiscoStew wrote: »

Did Tramore not reach an Eastern final in the last few years? Maybe my mind is playing tricks on me!

In Junior and went up to intermediate without even winning the county final. We're still intermediate last year despite being relegated the previous year. Didn't even get close to winning a match this year. Would be better off down in junior where they could compete.

DiscoStew

Deise Hurler wrote: »

In Junior and went up to intermediate without even winning the county final. We're still intermediate last year despite being relegated the previous year. Didn't even get close to winning a match this year. Would be better off down in junior where they could compete.

Ah yes you're right, beaten by Ballysaggart in the junior final! How did they avoid relegation? Similar story to Clashmore?

The Dickler

Alf Tupper wrote: »

Could you tell us when and where the Passage v Tallow and Dungarvan v Ballyduff fixtures are on.

In the scale of things does it really matter?

Mountainlad

Lismore will beat De La Salle lads.

Mountainlad

The Dickler wrote: »

Ballygunner v Mount Sion
Fourmilewater v Roanmore
Passage v Tallow
Dungarvan v Ballyduff

Jaysus who'd have predicted that 8 at the start of the year.

Looking forward to a top class contest between Mount Sion and the Gunners.

But would you look at the remaining 3 matches.
If you took out Roanmore it looks like the line up for the Hillbilly Olympics.
It'll all end in tears I tell ya.

Yeah but its better than seeing 8 soft townie teams involved.

Mountainlad

Alf 3 games in fraher this weekend:

Saturday 19th
Roanmore v FMW 7.30

Sunday 20th
Passage v Ballyduff 6pm
Dungarvan v Tallow 7.30pm

JesusRef

I think the shocks will continue, my winners are

Tallow (Dungarvan after two easy games may be undercooked, real outside bet - but Dungarvans full forward line will be in for a tougher time than they have up to now)
Mt Sion (fighting for their lives the last few months, I think they will be battle hardened, Ballygunnar not as strong as previous years)
FMW
Passage

JesusRef

Mountainlad wrote: »

Lismore will beat De La Salle lads.

I think you could be right, Lismores recent form better.

DLS All Ireland intermediate club champs 2016?

Alf Tupper

The Dickler wrote: »

In the scale of things does it really matter?

Nah, not to the likes of yourself who thinks hurling begins and ends with the county team for a few months during the summer.

I'm surprised you're back on here now that the soccer has started on Sky.

Following, supporting and having a bit of knowledge and pride about something and some place, especially your own place, begins with getting off the high stool.


No worries though, Matt Keane will give you the results at the weekend!

archieknox

Mountainlad wrote: »

Lismore will beat De La Salle lads.

I can see where you're getting your prediction from but I still think DLS will get their act together to stay up. Lismore just don't have enough quality in my opinion. They're definitely improving since Dave Bennett took them over but have they left it too late? They'll go down fighting for sure but I can't see them staying up. I would think though the pressure is on DLS more so than Lismore so how they'll handle it if things start to go against them is another thing.

robopaddy2

cookey123 wrote: »

Have heard mumblings of the potential to objections being lodged in regards relegation should it occur for certain clubs in both senior and intermediate as a result of the decision made last year not to relegate clashmore to junior, I know this was due to the restructuring of the championships however it could lead to an interesting debate as precedent has been set.

Was going to post the same thing myself, from speaking to someone within DLS the other night the response about relegation was 'not going to happen, trust me'. If they lose the relegation final get ready for a whole new can of worms to be cracked open. They already have a team in the Eastern Intermediate and junior championships... Would 2 teams from the same club be allowed compete in the same championship? It could get very interesting indeed. Don't be surprised if both Lismore and DLS are still playing senior again next year.

archieknox

robopaddy2 wrote: »

Was going to post the same thing myself, from speaking to someone within DLS the other night the response about relegation was 'not going to happen, trust me'. If they lose the relegation final get ready for a whole new can of worms to be cracked open. They already have a team in the Eastern Intermediate and junior championships... Would 2 teams from the same club be allowed compete in the same championship? It could get very interesting indeed. Don't be surprised if both Lismore and DLS are still playing senior again next year.

But what is Lismore's argument going to be if they're relegated? It will end up worse than the Diarmuid Connolly debacle! I totally understand the"Timmy rule" when it came to Clashmore for this year but where do we stop? So would the same apply if lets say it was Cappoquin were relegated? Would that be acceptable because they were expected to be relegated? At the end of the day nothing would surprise me though in this county because obviously there's no smoke without fire as in both clubs must be working behind the scenes.

robopaddy2

archieknox wrote: »

But what is Lismore's argument going to be if they're relegated? It will end up worse than the Diarmuid Connolly debacle! I totally understand the"Timmy rule" when it came to Clashmore for this year but where do we stop? So would the same apply if lets say it was Cappoquin were relegated? Would that be acceptable because they were expected to be relegated? At the end of the day nothing would surprise me though in this county because obviously there's no smoke without fire as in both clubs must be working behind the scenes.

Lismore would be aswell off just accept fate and hope they can bounce straight back up. It would be a blessing in disguise for them imo. Theres a nucleus of a good young team there but with all the politics that goes on amongst the more senior people , a year down intermediate might be just the kick in the arse that club needs. A successful intermediate campaign might get everyone singing from the same hymn sheet again and put a bit of buzz back into the club. But as we saw with Cappoquin last year it dosent always work out that way.

DLS on the other hand have no excuse for being in this position in the first place, they should be ashamed of themselves. If they do lose the relegation playoff I hope they do try to seek a reprieve through the 'Timmy Rule' as it will add to the indignity of a club of their size and team of their ability being in this position in the first place. They would be public enemy no. 1 for sure and it would put the co. board in a perilous position.

The Dickler

robopaddy2 wrote: »

DLS on the other hand have no excuse for being in this position in the first place, they should be ashamed of themselves. If they do lose the relegation playoff I hope they do try to seek a reprieve through the 'Timmy Rule' as it will add to the indignity of a club of their size and team of their ability being in this position in the first place. They would be public enemy no. 1 for sure and it would put the co. board in a perilous position.

Paddy
While the above may very well come to pass, why would you HOPE for such a scenario?

robopaddy2

The Dickler wrote: »

Paddy
While the above may very well come to pass, why would you HOPE for such a scenario?

What can I say I love a good soap opera....

archieknox

robopaddy2 wrote: »

Lismore would be aswell off just accept fate and hope they can bounce straight back up. It would be a blessing in disguise for them imo. Theres a nucleus of a good young team there but with all the politics that goes on amongst the more senior people , a year down intermediate might be just the kick in the arse that club needs. A successful intermediate campaign might get everyone singing from the same hymn sheet again and put a bit of buzz back into the club. But as we saw with Cappoquin last year it dosent always work out that way.

DLS on the other hand have no excuse for being in this position in the first place, they should be ashamed of themselves. If they do lose the relegation playoff I hope they do try to seek a reprieve through the 'Timmy Rule' as it will add to the indignity of a club of their size and team of their ability being in this position in the first place. They would be public enemy no. 1 for sure and it would put the co. board in a perilous position.

Hard not to agree with what you say. Should be interesting that's for sure.

Mountainlad

Nobody is ever going to relegated again ever...come on now lads.

cookey123

it would be a massive u turn as last year the county board wanted a 8-10 team championship, next year it could be 14! If this occurs we will end up in a situation like Tipperary where there was no relegation from senior for years!

The Dickler

robopaddy2 wrote: »

What can I say I love a good soap opera....

Well I don't think you'll be disappointed here.
Though you re fairly giving away the story-line.....no shock/horror element left.

The Dickler

Alf Tupper wrote: »

Nah, not to the likes of yourself who thinks hurling begins and ends with the county team for a few months during the summer.

I'm surprised you're back on here now that the soccer has started on Sky.

Following, supporting and having a bit of knowledge and pride about something and some place, especially your own place, begins with getting off the high stool.


No worries though, Matt Keane will give you the results at the weekend!

My god, the staunchness of you Alfie. I can only aspire.

The Dickler

JesusRef wrote: »

I think the shocks will continue, my winners are

Tallow (Dungarvan after two easy games may be undercooked, real outside bet - but Dungarvans full forward line will be in for a tougher time than they have up to now)
Mt Sion (fighting for their lives the last few months, I think they will be battle hardened, Ballygunnar not as strong as previous years)
FMW
Passage

I'd agree with you except I think a weaker Ballygunner should just have enough in a tough encounter.