Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

safetyboy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4833RI79nE

Mario: Invasion of the Rabbids

sligeach

safetyboy wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4833RI79nE

Mario: Invasion of the Rabbids

Edit: Nevermind you fixed it.

sligeach

French publication Game Blog made these claims just before the Switch was revealed. Note the last sentence.

• He says he’s only sharing stuff multiple sources have confirmed
• “Sure about 20 games in development”
• Their sources are currently developing on the platform and have devkits
• “You’ll be able to verify these leaks very soon” but not aware of the actual reveal date
• Nintendo hasn’t shared all of the NX “gimmicks” with their dev yet
• Hybrid confirmed but not the only “surprise”
• He’s been confirmed there are detachable controllers
• No real dock where you plug the handheld, but a wireless ‘dongle’ upscaling for the TV
• Handheld game is the same as the “docked” game
• Games look good on the handheld screen (780 – 900p), about PS4 level
• Ports should be easy despite the different architecture
• Very positive feedback on the dev tools
• Breath of the Wild looks nicer on NX
• Smartphone connectivity maybe possible
• VR not out of the question but first tests aren’t satisfying.
• Lots of remasters planned (Skyward Sword, MK8, Splatoon, Smash, N64 and Wii games)
• FFXV and FFVII Remake are coming to NX
• Platinum Games and Capcom are in
• Ubisoft in (BG&E 2 discussed but not confirmed, Splinter Cell and a Yoshi / Rabbid Rabbits crossover being discussed too)

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/10/13/french-site-stokes-the-nintendo-nx-rumour-mill/

MilesMorales1

Multiple sources tell Eurogamer the game is already well into development, will launch in 2017, and currently holds the codename of Pokémon Stars.

Earlier generations of Pokémon games have featured a third title launched later with expanded features - Pokémon Yellow followed Game Boy originals Red and Blue to start this trend, which continued through until Pokémon Platinum followed Sapphire and Emerald on DS.

With Pokémon Stars, this idea will be revived - but for the first time we'll see the mainline Pokémon series spanning separate Nintendo consoles within the same generation of games.

Indeed, Switch will be the first Nintendo "home" console to receive a main Pokémon adventure. It only took 20 years.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-11-18-nintendo-switch-will-get-pokemon-sun-and-moon-version
Cool.

ERG89

Didn't we all know that Eurogamer story?
Ok Nintendo didn't confirm it and honestly there are some minor performance issues (slow down) which made me think more they might have be developing it cross platform

Andrew76

ERG89 wrote: »

Didn't we all know that Eurogamer story?

Nope. But seeing as Santa will be bringing the game to this house for the 3DS, I won't be paying again for a port. Not very exciting news.

sligeach

ERG89 wrote: »

Didn't we all know that Eurogamer story?
Ok Nintendo didn't confirm it and honestly there are some minor performance issues (slow down) which made me think more they might have be developing it cross platform

I'd heard the Pokemon rumour before. It's that I just don't care.

MilesMorales1

ERG89 wrote: »

Didn't we all know that Eurogamer story?
Ok Nintendo didn't confirm it and honestly there are some minor performance issues (slow down) which made me think more they might have be developing it cross platform

Well the slowdown is almost exclusively OG 3DS. N3DS runs fine.

Corholio

Glad to see this release on the Switch, I wouldn't be into Pokemon but this will hopefully be a big seller which can help first year momentum certainly.

OwaynOTT

With everything Pokemon selling a ****load, it could really give the Switch some boast power.
I'm holding out hope for an F-ZERO title. I'll probably get that the same time my Zavvi Nintendo mini order arrives.

Nollog

Wait... gxs unbelievable rumour was the rabbits mario crossover?

We've heard that 3 or 4 times before how is it that unbelievable?

sligeach

According to Laura Kate Dale this is her best attempt to layout the Switch Software Support.

Pac1Man

If that's true, I definitely won't be an early adopter.

Seems like they are trying to show the world what they missed out on with the WiiU.

Corholio

She didn't really make it clear, but that's just those she knows about or feels comfortable in confirming. There will be a good few more, especially in the first 6 months by all other accounts.

McLoughlin

Wasn't it the same with PS4 and XboxOne in the first few months trying to show the world what they missed out on with the previous consoles ?

Xenji

McLoughlin wrote: »

Wasn't it the same with PS4 and XboxOne in the first few months trying to show the world what they missed out on with the previous consoles ?

It is still happening.

sligeach

Now we know why it's called the Switch. All their Wii U games are being switched onto the new console.

So far I've heard of:

• Mario Kart 8
• Super Smash Bros.
• Twilight Princess HD
• Wind Waker HD
• Pikmin 4
• Super Mario 3D World
• Xenoblade Chronicles X
• Splatoon
• Super Mario Maker
• Zelda: Breath of the Wild

And even some older games like Skyward Sword.

ERG89

sligeach wrote: »

Now we know why it's called the Switch. All their Wii U games are being switched onto the new console.

So far I've heard of:

• Mario Kart 8
• Super Smash Bros.
• Twilight Princess HD
• Wind Waker HD
• Pikmin 4
• Super Mario 3D World
• Xenoblade Chronicles X
• Splatoon
• Super Mario Maker
• Zelda: Breath of the Wild

And even some older games like Skyward Sword.

Add the 3DS Pokemon Stars to the lazy list too. And Skyrim has been on a few systems now, the Resident Evil 4 port too just because it's inevitable.
Could they not just make another Mario Kart & Mario Maker? Both strike me as one iteration per generation and wasting that on a port baffles me. Most of those games sold well considering the WiiU was a disaster.

CiDeRmAn

You know guys, if you don't like the Switch so much, just don't buy it, and move on to the Xbox or PS forum instead.
I'm sure they have consoles that fulfill your needs.
I mean, it's not like the Playstation or Xbox brands have had their meagre exclusives line up bolstered with ports.... oh wait, they absolutely have, again and again.
In fact, some of the best games on the PS4 and XB1 have been ports from the previous generation.
So give Nintendo a break ffs

And, really? Do you actually imagine that the only Mario Kart title for the Switch is going to be a port of MK8?
I mean, seriously?
It's a cheap and easy way to get an excellent game on the format, hopefully into the hands of people who hither to didn't own a WiiU or were limited to MK7 on the 3DS.
There is always an entirely new MK game on any given Nintendo format.
Zelda is another example, with a new LoZ title on each format, including the upcoming Breath of the Wild, which is also getting a port from the WiiU. The WiiU will have hosted three LoZ titles at that point, Twilight Princess, Wind Waker and BoW, not bad.

CiDeRmAn

McLoughlin wrote: »

Wasn't it the same with PS4 and XboxOne in the first few months trying to show the world what they missed out on with the previous consoles ?

The problem for the PS4, XB1 and the PS3, was that there was feck all worth playing on those formats for an age, some would say that situation persists.
If you own a decent PC there is little to attract anyone to a XB1 at all, the PS4 isn't too far off either, with only the likes of Bloodborne rendering the system essential. It remains to be seen if The Last Guardian is another.

Nollog

sligeach wrote: »

Now we know why it's called the Switch. All their Wii U games are being switched onto the new console.

So far I've heard of:

• Twilight Princess HD
• Wind Waker HD

And even some older games like Skyward Sword.

I highly doubt they port two zeldo ports over.

ERG89

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

You know guys, if you don't like the Switch so much, just don't buy it, and move on to the Xbox or PS forum instead.
I'm sure they have consoles that fulfill your needs.
I mean, it's not like the Playstation or Xbox brands have had their meagre exclusives line up bolstered with ports.... oh wait, they absolutely have, again and again.
In fact, some of the best games on the PS4 and XB1 have been ports from the previous generation.
So give Nintendo a break ffs

I never bought a WiiU so it's not as big a deal for me but copying so many ports over is not very Nintendo. They usually create the best first party titles not reheat leftovers like Sony in particular have done this gen. It's underwhelming that Nintendo were very busy making sure the NX was going to have a strong first year that seems to be full of games their most loyal fans already own. They have abandoned that system the last few years, to the point the WiiU port of Breath of the Wild was coming maybe 2 or 3 years too late.
Nintendo have made a lot of strange (bad) decisions the last few years with the bad system launches and now their big holiday title besides Pokemon is on the iPhone.

CiDeRmAn

I suppose the reason for the ports, and some of them appear to be more than simple ports, with the Mario Kart one appearing to have larger changes to the form seen on the WiiU, is that the available audience for these titles on the WiiU was relatively small, plus with that console being discontinued as we speak, it would be a crime to see such excellent work, objectively so, going unseen and unplayed by newcomers to the Switch.
You're right, Nintendo really do seem to be the only people putting the working into notable exclusives for their consoles, with brave experiments seen on the Xbox, 360, PS2 and PS3 all but absent on the PS4 and XB1. If it was the case that the NX was going to be a place where only efforts best described as "Previously on the WiiU" it would be very disappointing, but I think we can be assured that Nintendo have never been one to do so.
When we look at the Wii and WiiU line ups we see plenty of ports from previous consoles, with the first two Pikmin games ported to the Wii from the GC, with decent use of the Wiimote built in and the excellent Metroid Trilogy as good examples.
It didn't stop the Wii and WiiU being host to some great titles.
The WiiU getting BoW a couple of years too late... well the machine has only been out for a couple of years itself, though the game has almost certainly been delayed by a year due to the port to the Switch, which is a great pity but, with sadness, it is the case surely that the WiiU's race was well over by the stage they could have released Links newest adventure and it would have made little difference in terms of console sales, so we got the rather good Twilight Princess port instead. Not as good but better than a boot in the nethers.
Sony and Microsoft have really written the book on lousy lineups at launch, the PS4 and XB1 had pitiful launch titles. The consoles sold well, granted, but there was precious little for early adopters to play and, outside of EA games, I'd say people are still living on a steady diet of games that are better played on PC anyways, from Destiny to Doom 3.

As for Nintendo this Christmas, yeah, it's a quiet one. The decision to release their new console in March is as annoying as all hell, with a discontinued home machine unlikely to sell. The 3DS is still selling and so are the games on it, but it is going to be quiet alright.
But Pokémon is going to make a fortune, the Nes Mini Classic is bringing in the money too, Mario on the iPhone is going to work in concert with the previous mentioned titles and create an expectation for Nintendo IP that has been missing up to now, hopefully culminating in a good if not great launch of the Switch.

johnpatrick81

I've avoided PS4 this long purely for the lack of original must buys, especially in the first 2 years. I'll certainly voice the same displeasure towards Nintendo if they do the exact same. It seems even more blatant on their part.

Pac1Man

Personally I couldn't care less about exclusives. The only reason Nintendo got a pat on their back for the amount of exclusives they released was because there was nothing else to play.

That is why I never understand the go-to argument about Sony/MS having a paltry exclusive lineup compared to Nintendo. Maybe go play one the few hundred third party releases then?

I don't have an Xbox but there is an eclectic mix of releases on the PS4, of all genres. The other go-to argument that Bloodborne is the only reason to own one is simply not true.

ERG89

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I suppose the reason for the ports, and some of them appear to be more than simple ports, with the Mario Kart one appearing to have larger changes to the form seen on the WiiU, is that the available audience for these titles on the WiiU was relatively small, plus with that console being discontinued as we speak, it would be a crime to see such excellent work, objectively so, going unseen and unplayed by newcomers to the Switch.
You're right, Nintendo really do seem to be the only people putting the working into notable exclusives for their consoles, with brave experiments seen on the Xbox, 360, PS2 and PS3 all but absent on the PS4 and XB1. If it was the case that the NX was going to be a place where only efforts best described as "Previously on the WiiU" it would be very disappointing, but I think we can be assured that Nintendo have never been one to do so.
When we look at the Wii and WiiU line ups we see plenty of ports from previous consoles, with the first two Pikmin games ported to the Wii from the GC, with decent use of the Wiimote built in and the excellent Metroid Trilogy as good examples.
It didn't stop the Wii and WiiU being host to some great titles.
The WiiU getting BoW a couple of years too late... well the machine has only been out for a couple of years itself, though the game has almost certainly been delayed by a year due to the port to the Switch, which is a great pity but, with sadness, it is the case surely that the WiiU's race was well over by the stage they could have released Links newest adventure and it would have made little difference in terms of console sales, so we got the rather good Twilight Princess port instead. Not as good but better than a boot in the nethers.
Sony and Microsoft have really written the book on lousy lineups at launch, the PS4 and XB1 had pitiful launch titles. The consoles sold well, granted, but there was precious little for early adopters to play and, outside of EA games, I'd say people are still living on a steady diet of games that are better played on PC anyways, from Destiny to Doom 3.

As for Nintendo this Christmas, yeah, it's a quiet one. The decision to release their new console in March is as annoying as all hell, with a discontinued home machine unlikely to sell. The 3DS is still selling and so are the games on it, but it is going to be quiet alright.
But Pokémon is going to make a fortune, the Nes Mini Classic is bringing in the money too, Mario on the iPhone is going to work in concert with the previous mentioned titles and create an expectation for Nintendo IP that has been missing up to now, hopefully culminating in a good if not great launch of the Switch.

Well I trust Nintendo with ports more than I do other companies with the Batman & Assassins Creed ones being outsourced demakes. This generation has been frustrating as every game launches with problems of some sort. I just hope them to do well with the Switch as this seems to have all the eggs in the one basket (portable & home consoles).
Even the mini NES I look at as a HUGE missed opportunity as a perfect stocking filler gift for christmas, loads wanted it but Nintendo didn't ship near enough(they look like they didn't cost the world to make). People don't know when they are back in stock now. When it does if it's close to March nobody will care as the opportunity was lost. Mario iPhone will be huge even if it sucks.
I feel had Nintendo released Breath of the Wild last year or earlier in the WiiU's life it would have given the WiiU a significant boost now it feels like it will be like Twilight Princess on gamecube where it was kinda rare upon release. I often feel Nintendo made the WiiU and they themselves were as guilty as anyone not knowing how to make use of it outside of Mario Maker. They didn't want to take a bigger hit on it but was there ever a significant price cut?

CiDeRmAn

Nintendo consoles have really made their name on the exclusive titles.
And not just Nintendo IP either.
Back in the Snes days you had multiplatform titles, but you also had the likes of the Parodius and Castlevania titles, with specific versions for the format, alongside eternal classics like Super Metroid and Super Mario World.
The WiiU suffered from poor support from EA and lacklustre ports from Ubi, though Activision kept the flag flying with good ports of CoD Ghosts and CoD Black Ops 2.
I have had a PS4 for some years now and my game collection there is dwarfed by the library for my WiiU, most of those being exclusives.

MilesMorales1

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

You know guys, if you don't like the Switch so much, just don't buy it, and move on to the Xbox or PS forum instead.
I'm sure they have consoles that fulfill your needs.
I mean, it's not like the Playstation or Xbox brands have had their meagre exclusives line up bolstered with ports.... oh wait, they absolutely have, again and again.
In fact, some of the best games on the PS4 and XB1 have been ports from the previous generation.
So give Nintendo a break ffs

And, really? Do you actually imagine that the only Mario Kart title for the Switch is going to be a port of MK8?
I mean, seriously?
It's a cheap and easy way to get an excellent game on the format, hopefully into the hands of people who hither to didn't own a WiiU or were limited to MK7 on the 3DS.
There is always an entirely new MK game on any given Nintendo format.
Zelda is another example, with a new LoZ title on each format, including the upcoming Breath of the Wild, which is also getting a port from the WiiU. The WiiU will have hosted three LoZ titles at that point, Twilight Princess, Wind Waker and BoW, not bad.

Preach friend.

I haven't heard of twilight princess HD making it to the Switch.

Corholio

I do think the ports, which doesnt seem to be strictly true either, would be disappointing if it was more or less the same setup but only more powerful i.e. PS3 to PS4, but the switch will bring a whole new way to play some great games which didn't get the whole audience they deserved, which was Nintendo's fault of course. This isn't the usual same 'lazy port' circumstances imo. Fixing the battle mode in Mario Kart would be worth it in itself.

Star Lord

sligeach wrote: »

• Twilight Princess HD
• Wind Waker HD
• Super Mario 3D World

Hadn't heard of these being ported, any source?
Hadn't heard rumours of a Skyward Sword remake either, beyond some people saying they'd like it remade with more traditional controls.