Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

CiDeRmAn

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

"may not"
Meaning, they don't yet know.
Meaning, they are bringing games, but not necessarily the software on the PS4/XB1.
Which is fine, given the quality of the games that came exclusively to the Wii for example, and not to the PS3 or 360.
M!ck^, you just have posted post after post that layers on the misery on the Switch console.
TBH, it's needlessly depressing stuff.

The Switch is an unknown now.
Companies are naturally uncertain about spending big money on a console whose immediate predecessor sold "only" 13 million units.
In the interim we are going to see Nintendo first party titles and third party titles that have been underwritten by Nintendo.

Perhaps a look at the "launch window" of the PS4 and XB1 will show how thin those machines were in terms of third party titles worth buying, both of which were a pretty weak mix of PS3/360 ports, like CoD:Ghosts, poor 1st party games, like Knack and Ryse, with only a handful of must have titles, Resogun and maybe Forza 5.

Take a look at the list of Capcom games on PS4, virtually everyone is a port, with only Resident Evil 7 standing out right now as an original, the Xbox One is just as pathetic a list of ports, mostly HD versions that already graced the PS3/360, many of which began life on a Nintendo console, with the Resident Evil Remake, Resident Evil 4 and the two Resident Evil light gun titles as examples of that.
So, when Capcom make such a declaration that they may not bring the PS4/XB1 destined games to the Switch, we should actually be pleased, given the weak list of titles so far on those two current gen machines.

I'm a skeptic of it nothing more. I was duped with Nintendo's last 2 consoles and I blame myself for buying them.
I want to see Nintendo do well.
However just because I'm not singing the praise of the switch doesn't mean I cannot discuss it.
I can't think of one positive thing about the console at the moment. But these are my opinions.

OwaynOTT

M!Ck^ wrote: »

I'm a skeptic of it nothing more. I was duped with Nintendo's last 2 consoles and I blame myself for buying them.
I want to see Nintendo do well.
However just because I'm not singing the praise of the switch doesn't mean I cannot discuss it.
I can't think of one positive thing about the console at the moment. But these are my opinions.

Ah here m!ck/, the wiiu had some great games! Mario Maker, bayonetta, xenoblade, donkey kong, Mario kart, wonderful 101, pikmin 3, splatoon, Lego city undercover, project zero and animal crossing amiibo festival.
When did you buy yours?

Pac1Man

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Ah here m!ck/, the wiiu had some great games! Mario Maker, bayonetta, xenoblade, donkey kong, Mario kart, wonderful 101, pikmin 3, splatoon, Lego city undercover, project zero and animal crossing amiibo festival.
When did you buy yours?

Ah you were doing so well!

OwaynOTT

Pac1Man wrote: »

Ah you were doing so well!

Oh sorry I meant Devils third

OwaynOTT

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Ah here m!ck/, the wiiu had some great games! Mario Maker, bayonetta, xenoblade, donkey kong, Mario kart, wonderful 101, pikmin 3, splatoon, Lego city undercover, project zero and animal crossing amiibo festival.
When did you buy yours?

The only two games I honestly enjoyed were bayonetta 2 and zombi u
I bought it and sold it within a year. I sold it around the start of this year. It was pretty much gathering dust for months. I tried to give it time but just wasn't enough to keep me with it.
I'm not saying others didn't find it had great games. I just personally did not.

Andrew76

M!Ck^ wrote: »

I'm a skeptic of it nothing more. I was duped with Nintendo's last 2 consoles and I blame myself for buying them.
I want to see Nintendo do well.
However just because I'm not singing the praise of the switch doesn't mean I cannot discuss it.
I can't think of one positive thing about the console at the moment. But these are my opinions.

Nothing wrong with that. I was excited by the Switch reveal (thinking back a lot of that was probably due to Nintendo not telling us anything for so long) but I'm on the fence now about the device. I'll only be using it as a home console so would like it to be half way decent spec wise so there's a half decent library for it - quality and quantity this time (even if I'd mainly be getting it for first party titles). PS4 & PC will do me for everything else most likely.

Not a hope I'll be getting it at launch unless it has Zelda & Mario day one and I can get the lot for around the 400 mark (and they've sorted out their ****e online system).

Just curious though, what made you buy the Wii and Wii-U in the first place? At launch or further into their life-cycle?

kevin2me

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

"may not"
Meaning, they don't yet know.
Meaning, they are bringing games, but not necessarily the software on the PS4/XB1.
Which is fine, given the quality of the games that came exclusively to the Wii for example, and not to the PS3 or 360.

Agree with positives posts above. If anything Capcom not bringing X1 n PS4 ports is a good thing. They are more likely make More Monster Hunter or something else. They blew it with SFV thou. Got question their mgmt after SFIV being so good. Eitherway i couldnt care less if they bring anything. Theyre IPs havent interested my with latest generations.

People need to just wait and see no point speculating or getting worked too early. We barely got 3 min video. Jan will bring more info. Eitherway the launch titles will blow X1 and PS4 out of the waterwith Zelda alone and plenty more good titles in first 6 months. Even if some 3rd party games are ports or few gems like ZombiU etc...

It is what comes in Q4 2017 is what will really tell all for Switch and 3rd Parties. I for one love see Fifa/PES/CODs etc that xmas if only to grow install base. More it grows then no one needs worry about X1/PS4 as 3rd parties will be compelled to make games for Switch... Just look at 3DS. Continuing to do well yet so old and underpowered now...

CiDeRmAn

M!Ck^ wrote: »

I'm a skeptic of it nothing more. I was duped with Nintendo's last 2 consoles and I blame myself for buying them.
I want to see Nintendo do well.
However just because I'm not singing the praise of the switch doesn't mean I cannot discuss it.
I can't think of one positive thing about the console at the moment. But these are my opinions.

Well, in my opinion, and that of many others, the WiiU has had the strongest exclusive software of the generation.
Mario Kart 8 is superb, Splatoon, despite no voice chat, reinvented online shooters, Super Mario 3D World is outstanding, Pikmin 3 is another triumph, Bayonetta 2 as you've identified is excellent. And there's plenty more tbh, from Toad to Kirby, Smash Bros to Hyrule Warriors.

Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion and to discuss it but, man, your tone on the Switch has been incessantly dour and gloomy, and this based on a brief promo video and little but rumour beyond.
I would have hoped the console would have had the benefit of the doubt.

The Wii had an even broader selection of game available and, once the minigames were filtered out there were plenty of cracking stuff to play, from Super Mario Galaxy and it's sequel to more esoteric stuff like Fragile Dreams.

I have concerns too, a console incapable of easy ports from the existing current gen consoles without significant performance issues is a worry, and one I hope is ill founded, but only time will tell.
The promise of a new Mario title, new Zelda title and Mario Kart too is enough to keep my hopes aloft though.

764dak

kevin2me wrote: »

Agree with positives posts above. If anything Capcom not bringing X1 n PS4 ports is a good thing. They are more likely make More Monster Hunter or something else. They blew it with SFV thou. Got question their mgmt after SFIV being so good. Eitherway i couldnt care less if they bring anything. Theyre IPs havent interested my with latest generations.

People need to just wait and see no point speculating or getting worked too early. We barely got 3 min video. Jan will bring more info. Eitherway the launch titles will blow X1 and PS4 out of the waterwith Zelda alone and plenty more good titles in first 6 months. Even if some 3rd party games are ports or few gems like ZombiU etc...

It is what comes in Q4 2017 is what will really tell all for Switch and 3rd Parties. I for one love see Fifa/PES/CODs etc that xmas if only to grow install base. More it grows then no one needs worry about X1/PS4 as 3rd parties will be compelled to make games for Switch... Just look at 3DS. Continuing to do well yet so old and underpowered now...

MilesMorales1

764dak wrote: »

Well yeah, at least in terms of quality. On launch games alone, PS4 and XB1 were weak. And PS4/XB1 have hardly had glowing generations too far, with exceptions like bloodborne or uncharted 4 or indie stuff.


Doesn't guarantee it'll sell mind.

kevin2me

764dak wrote: »

Ill go let below with a big fat REALLY.... 😀

Outside of Forza 5 nothing worth caring about.
Zelda BOTW on other hand be up for game of the year 2017.

PS4 launch so poor im still waiting for it to tempt me enough to buy one 3 years down the line. it's the 1st console i havent got at launch day in decades. Prob get PS4Pro in few months. Still lovin the X1 thou. X1 controller is far superior imo and im glad Switches pro controller borrows from this design.

Xbox One launch exclusives:
Crimson Dragon
Dead Rising 3
Forza 5
Killer Instinct
LocoCycle
RYSE Son of Rome

PS4 launch exclusives:
Killzone Shadowfall
Knack
Driveclub
Resogun

Digital Solitude

Get Bloodborne, you won't regret it.

BOTW as GOTY for 2017? We know **** all about it aside from open world and watercolours

MilesMorales1

Yeah but when was the last 'bad' mainline Zelda? Zelda 2? We know plenty about breath of the wild, cos combined E3 and post switch coverage of it has revealed a lot of its stuff. It looks amazing, apparently plays amazing, is a breath (no pun intended) of fresh air for Zelda, they've been working on it presumably since Skyward Sword. It's gonna be fantastic.

After all the wii launch line up wasn't that impressive. But because they held zelda back to launch with the Wii/GC instead of launching Gamecube first, then Wii after, the Wii line up looked and felt that much more impressive.

Andrew76

Andrew76 wrote: »

Nothing wrong with that. I was excited by the Switch reveal (thinking back a lot of that was probably due to Nintendo not telling us anything for so long) but I'm on the fence now about the device. I'll only be using it as a home console so would like it to be half way decent spec wise so there's a half decent library for it - quality and quantity this time (even if I'd mainly be getting it for first party titles). PS4 & PC will do me for everything else most likely.

Not a hope I'll be getting it at launch unless it has Zelda & Mario day one and I can get the lot for around the 400 mark (and they've sorted out their ****e online system).

Just curious though, what made you buy the Wii and Wii-U in the first place? At launch or further into their life-cycle?

Original Wii was further into life cycle and only for soft mod purposes

Wii U as per my other post

sligeach

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

Yeah but when was the last 'bad' mainline Zelda?

Skyward Sword. Truly awful. Thankfully it's the only bad game in the series(all the others were brilliant) but worryingly it was the last one on home console. Breath of the Wild looks great though and a return to form.

ShadowHearth

M!Ck^ wrote: »

"Capcom is currently planning what it will develop for the Nintendo Switch, but has indicated that it may not be bringing games designed for PS4 or Xbox One to the new console."

I honestly don't care if there will be xbox one and ps4 ports on switch. If there will be, it will be like ports we got from 360 and ps3 on wii. They were dreadful versions. I don't want to see it again.
Capcom has a fantastic franchise of monster hunter on Nintendo consoles. If they will actually do a proper monsters hunter game on switch, then it's all I want from Capcom. I bet you then will do it, maybe not for launch, but when they do it, the sales will go up a lot. Mostly in Japan, but this franchise is really catching on even here lately.

764dak

This Kotaku reader created this design in 2014.



http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/01/this_design_for_a_game_boy_evolution_sure_is_intriguing
http://kotaku.com/designing-a-brand-new-game-boy-1502239180

Looks familiar?

sligeach

Report: Remaining Smash Amiibo Delayed until 2017 Smash Bros. Switch Port Arrives

According to a pair of sources who we have used in the past when reporting on Switch news, we have learned that the Bayonetta and Cloud Amiibo, both previously slated for 2016 release, are now being held back to launch alongside an upcoming Switch port of Smash Bros.

According to our information, the port will not be a launch day release for the Switch, but is targetting a release in the first six months after the Switch hits shelves. We have not heard any confirmation that the port will contain any new content, but we have been told it will contain all DLC from the Wii U version of the game.

We have not heard anything regarding Gamecube Controller support for the port.

While we are aware multiple sites and outlets have claimed a slew of enhanced ports are coming to the Switch on launch day, including some sites falsely attributing us as their source, we would like to make it clear that this report is the sum total of what we are currently announcing. Our reporting on a Smash port should not be taken as confirmation of any other recent reports with our name incorrectly attached being accurate.

http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/11/report-remaining-smash-amiibo-delayed-until-2017-smash-bros-switch-port-arrives/

https://twitter.com/LaurakBuzz/status/796241335850323968

Deano7788

sligeach wrote: »

Skyward Sword. Truly awful. Thankfully it's the only bad game in the series(all the others were brilliant) but worryingly it was the last one on home console. Breath of the Wild looks great though and a return to form.

Seeing as you used Metacritic earlier, 93 Critic Score and 8.0 User score on Metacritic so no wouldn't be considered awful or even bad :pac:

Also, with the exception of the bomb throwing mechanics which I found fidgety I loved it personally.

MilesMorales1

Not sure I think skyward sword is bad, the controls are bad for sure. But its still a winning game, I'm hopeful we'll get a port minus the dreadful controls.

Andrew76

Are Nintendo going to be charging full whack for these Wii-U ports? Maybe they're aimed at folks who never bought a Wii-U as I can't see the attraction for anyone who already has a copy.

sligeach

Andrew76 wrote: »

Are Nintendo going to be charging full whack for these Wii-U ports? Maybe they're aimed at folks who never bought a Wii-U as I can't see the attraction for anyone who already has a copy.

While I've bought DLC for some of Nintendo's other games like Pikmin 3, Mario Kart 8 and Hyrule Warriors, I haven't spent a penny on any of the DLC for Smash Bros. I think I worked it out before that it cost >€80 to buy all the DLC packs for just the Wii U version and that's on top of the price for the game itself. It cost more for the DLC than for the game and you only got a fraction of extra content by comparison. It's ridiculously expensive.


This might encourage some people to buy the new version if it includes all the DLC. But they're again giving the middle finger to current owners by delaying the last few amiibo.

CiDeRmAn

Andrew76 wrote: »

Are Nintendo going to be charging full whack for these Wii-U ports? Maybe they're aimed at folks who never bought a Wii-U as I can't see the attraction for anyone who already has a copy.

If they follow the model set by Sony and MS it'll be maybe 25% less for a remaster, with the DLC included.
Not sure where that'll leave the Mario Kart game we saw in the trailer, which appeared to have elements not in MK8, but if it retailed in physical form with new features, all the DLC, I can see it being worth €50 of anyone's money.

OwaynOTT

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

If they follow the model set by Sony and MS it'll be maybe 25% less for a remaster, with the DLC included.
Not sure where that'll leave the Mario Kart game we saw in the trailer, which appeared to have elements not in MK8, but if it retailed in physical form with new features, all the DLC, I can see it being worth €50 of anyone's money.

It has a proper battle mode, it's worth that easily!

CiDeRmAn

OwaynOTT wrote: »

It has a proper battle mode, it's worth that easily!

A Splatoon themed battle arena please!!

Only a matter of time before we get a Splatoon racing title... tracks getting covered in paint, spattering around the wheels and drivers like muck in Motorstorm... only in technicolor!

OwaynOTT

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

A Splatoon themed battle arena please!!

Only a matter of time before we get a Splatoon racing title... tracks getting covered in paint, spattering around the wheels and drivers like muck in Motorstorm... only in technicolor!

No, don't want that just want double dash HD'd up and with some new tracks and people cars etc.

sligeach

Nintendo Switch Playable In February 2017 At A Japanese Event

Nintendo Switch is releasing in March 2017 and, even though we've yet to learn more about it precise launch date, it seems the Japanese platform holder is well on track to get it shipped in time for the beginning of next year. The console will indeed be showcased, and playable, at a February 2017 local event.

At Tokaigi Japan Game Party 2017, held by Nico Nico, Nintendo will be bringing the first playable Switch units. The event will take place at Makuhari Messe in Chiba, near Tokyo, at the same venue of Tokyo Game Show, and will have other publishers take the stage and display what they have in store.

Among them, SEGA, Ubisoft, Bandai Namco, Square Enix and Level-5, and who knows that some of them might be showing up with some Nintendo Switch games that hasn't been announced yet. There's a chance for those publisher to reveal new games for Switch at January 12's second console presentation, so watch out for more details in there.

http://www.gamepur.com/news/24947-nintendo-switch-playable-february-2017-japanese-event.html

sligeach

Nvidia's CEO Jen-Hsun Huang had the following to say about Nintendo and the Switch during an earnings call following their recent earnings quarter results:

"I guess you could also say that Nintendo contributed a fair amount to that growth. And over the next – as you know, the Nintendo architecture and the company tends to stick with an architecture for a very long time. And so we've worked with them now for almost two years. Several hundred engineering years have gone into the development of this incredible game console. I really believe when everybody sees it and enjoy it, they're going be amazed by it. It's really like nothing they've ever played with before. And of course, the brand, their franchise and their game content is incredible. And so I think this is a relationship that will likely last two decades and I'm super excited about it."

http://wwg.com/2016/11/11/nvidia-partnership-with-nintendo-will-likely-last-two-decades/

MilesMorales1

After this latest Nintendo supply issue with the NES classic, real glad I pre ordered the switch already. It's a little premature for sure, but I'd rather be too early than too late.

CastorTroy

Finally started Twilight Princess HD and remembered the resposnse it got when first revealed at e3, made me think what kind of response the Switch's reveal would've got at e3, if they showed off the same Switch trailer. Going by the response it got from everyone online, I'm guessing would be pretty positive.