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Shootings in Paris - Multiple fatalities.

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    #272
    IvyTheTerrible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    Holsten wrote: »
    Probably the most relevant thing happening in Europe, perhaps the world at the moment.

    This is real life, this and much worse happens every day. Why would you shield yourself from the actual realities of the world we live in?

    It's factual and extremely relevant.

    These guys are complete scumbags.
    First off, a person has the right not to have their last moment watched by complete strangers.

    Second off, these videos act as propaganda for Islamists. They WANT people to watch them.


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    #273
    TheFullDuck
    Registered Users Posts: 846 ✭✭✭TheFullDuck


    videos circulating reddit and other sites of two gunmen shooting a policeman, then executing him point blank. tough viewing


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    #274
    yosser hughes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,882 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Nope, just pointing out that EVERY religion has a history.

    Thanks for pointing that out.


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    #275
    gandalf
    Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    TheFullDuck wrote: »
    videos circulating reddit and other sites of two gunmen shooting a policeman, then executing him point blank. tough viewing

    It was already posted here.


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    #276
    bear1
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    The worst thing about it is that there will be more deaths today. They are still out there.... Hope they get to meet their Allah very soon.


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    #277
    kstand
    Registered Users Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭kstand


    bear1 wrote: »
    The worst thing about it is that there will be more deaths today. They are still out there.... Hope they get to meet their Allah very soon.

    Would agree - this isnt over yet.


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    #278
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    Allyall wrote: »
    What about you can/would want to watch it?

    Because it leaves no doubt as to how brutal and quick these attacks are. That cop was lying there turning over no doubt due to the discomfort of his injuries. To walk over and nonchalantly finish him off is completely shocking. But it has left me in no doubt as to the horror. And there is a use in that.


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    #279
    positron
    Registered Users Posts: 6,303 ✭✭✭positron


    Fúck! I feel sick after watching that video!

    Just ban religion once and for all. Let's be done with it. We don't need this sh1t anymore.


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    #280
    Duggy747
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    Yea, as harrowing as that video is it's the perfect piece of footage they would like to see spread.

    That image of the cop holding his hand up just before he's executed will probably be plastered all over the papers tomorrow.


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    #281
    o1s1n
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    Master of the Universe


    Showing a censored version of that video on Sky News now.


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    #282
    Akrasia
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Nope, just pointing out that EVERY religion has a history.
    It is one thing to be an ignorant violent superstitious thug in a time when there is little education, literacy, communication technology scientific understanding etc,

    It is a very different thing to be an ignorant violent superstitious thug in the second decade of the 21st century when the entire acquired knowledge of the human species is available to anyone at any time literally in the palm of your hand....

    Medieval religious and cultural beliefs are utterly anachronistic and I can't wait until the day they die out. The only thing keeping them alive is misplaced respect for the idea of 'religion' as if it was anything other than the attempts of ignorant people to make sense of a world they did not understand.


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    #283
    bear1
    Registered Users Posts: 12,812 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    positron wrote: »
    Fúck! I feel sick after watching that video!

    Just ban religion once and for all. Let's be done with it. We don't need this sh1t anymore.

    If it wasn't religion then it would be something else.
    Humanity is our own greatest threat.


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    #284
    inforfun
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    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    I remember there was widespread demonstrations from French Muslims after that fella was beheaded in Algeria. But when have facts ever got in the way of a good old fashioned persecution?

    So you remember one.

    I remember all the silence after 9/11, Madrid, London. The silence after the recent beheadings by IS.
    I do remember muslims on Dutch television saying about Theo van Gogh's murder: "Yeah, it is not good he has been killed but he did insult the prophet (nsfh) so he was asking for it.
    And not just 1 saying that.

    Now i do also remember all the demonstrations all over the place after someone dared to make a cartoon of the prophet (nsfh).
    So they actually can do it.


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    #285
    GalwayGuitar
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 194 ✭✭GalwayGuitar


    Fuck Islam and fuck Allah and Muhammad.


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    #286
    Amazingfun
    Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Good timing for this guy's book release:

    Paris (AFP) - A new book imagining a future France coming under Islamic rule hits French bookshops on Wednesday in a literary sweep likely to fuel creeping European angst about Muslim immigration.

    http://news.yahoo.com/houellebecq-book-stirs-european-angst-over-islam-111959248.html


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    #287
    whiskeyman
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    o1s1n wrote: »
    Showing a censored version of that video on Sky News now.

    Who shot the video?
    Was it an onlooker or one of the attackers?

    (I havent seen it)


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    #288
    Wurzelbert
    Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    And we had the crusades, and priests who had sex with 9 year olds (this we know for sure)

    you are getting things mixed up here...the comparison with paedophile priests might work when comparing them to imams or so, the prophet would have to be compared to jesus for your argument to work...
    also you might want to read up on the crusades, on how and why they took place and on what happened in the “holy land” from the 7th century until the first crusade...


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    #289
    inforfun
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    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Who shot the video?
    Was it an onlooker or one of the attackers?

    (I havent seen it)

    Shot from an apartment or office by the looks of it.


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    #290
    kstand
    Registered Users Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭kstand


    Wurzelbert wrote: »
    you are getting things mixed up here...the comparison with paedophile priests might work when comparing them to imams or so, the prophet would have to be compared to jesus for your argument to work...
    also you might want to read up on the crusades, on how and why they took place and on what happened in the “holy land” from the 7th century until the first crusade...

    I wouldnt have bothered with the response.


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    #291
    MiskyBoyy
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    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Who shot the video?
    Was it an onlooker or one of the attackers?

    (I havent seen it)

    Seemed like a bystander hidden upstairs in an apartment recording them down on the street with their smartphone.


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    #292
    bjork
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    Just finished reading the thread. What a horrific incident. This thread is ridiculous.

    NI for about 10 pages seriously?? On that note> If I join the IRA, I can't say it was just a few mad lads in the group that went crazy and nothing to do with me

    Then the guy who posted the video of the incident is condemned for the next 10 pages. He is hated on more in this thread than the guy who carried out shootings.


    Whatabouttery is alive and well.


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    #293
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    bjork wrote: »
    Just finished reading the thread. What a horrific incident. This thread is ridiculous.

    NI for about 10 pages seriously?? On that note> If I join the IRA, I can't say it was just a few mad lads in the group that went crazy and nothing to do with me

    Then the guy who posted the video of the incident is condemned for the next 10 pages. He is hated on more in this thread than the guy who carried out shootings.


    Whatabouttery is alive and well.

    The irony.


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    #294
    bear1
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    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Who shot the video?
    Was it an onlooker or one of the attackers?

    (I havent seen it)

    Don't watch it.


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    #295
    pmasterson95
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    Muhamed is proud I'm sure. Yet people will still (if they haven't already) start with Islam is great its rascist to blame muslims its Israel and so on and on. Like happens every week when extremists go on a spree.


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    #296
    Lovely Bloke
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    gandalf wrote: »
    They are perfectly correct to condemn acts carried out by extremists, where some are wrong is equating the actions of an extreme minority with their medieval interpretation of Islam and equating it with the whole Muslim world.

    is there any interpretation if Islam that isn't medieval.

    Any religion, come to think of it?


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    #297
    Allyall
    Registered Users Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    bjork wrote: »
    Just finished reading the thread. What a horrific incident. This thread is ridiculous.

    NI for about 10 pages seriously?? On that note> If I join the IRA, I can't say it was just a few mad lads in the group that went crazy and nothing to do with me

    Then the guy who posted the video of the incident is condemned for the next 10 pages. He is hated on more in this thread than the guy who carried out shootings.


    Whatabouttery is alive and well.

    As is gross exaggeration


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    #298
    Wurzelbert
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    kstand wrote: »
    I wouldnt have bothered with the response.

    sorry, couldn't help myself


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    #299
    Soby
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    Rather I hadn't seen the video of the officer being murdered. horrible :(


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    #300
    TimeToShine
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    I think the worst thing about the video is how casually he took the last shot. He was jogging and barely stopped to look, sends shivers down my spine.


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    #301
    LordNorbury
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭LordNorbury


    It's only a matter of time before this happens in London. They (ISIS), will look at the sheer terror and fear that they have caused here today and will most probably replicate this against the UK.

    Think about this new terror model that is unfolding today, land a pair of terrorists in an EU capital with what is really a minimal amount of firepower, but enough to shoot dead maybe 100-200 people, give them two/three cars that they can have access to, or just let them hijack a few cars as the event unfolds, as they move from one scene to the next, they are wearing balaclavas and can no doubt change their clothes as they move from one shooting to the next and evade the police.

    How is any police force meant to get on top of a situation such as this before dozens of people are shot dead? If this is the new type of terror attack for the future then God help people living in EU capitals where their country is engaging against ISIS.


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