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Denis O'Brien Irelands Sinister Fringe.

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    #1172
    Curly Judge
    Registered Users Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭Curly Judge


    michael999999 wrote: »
    Maryanne doesn't answer questions, just pushes out the party line!

    Catherine Murphy made accusations against IBRC's board of management which will prove to be untrue.


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    #1173
    tipptom
    Registered Users Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    Curly Judge wrote: »
    Catherine Murphy made accusations against IBRC's board of management which will prove to be untrue.
    All this will come out in an Independent enquiry which this government tried to suppress and told us was not necessary(wonder why?),mates rates made by DOBs friends on the IBRCs board without going through the panel,insider share dealing etc etc and whatever corruption was approved by this compromised FG government for their benefactor.
    Look forward to it but as usual they will pull a fast one against the people like the last corrupt government and go to the Aras on a Sunday morning with their friends in the Sunday Independent tipped of beforehand to spin it and a stay will be put on the finding until after the election.


    This is the Mugabe politics in this country damned to repeat itself cheered on by a media slur campaign against any opposition,rotten to the core.


    Care to inform of your insider knowledge or is this another slur campaign starting against her?


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    #1174
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Curly Judge wrote: »
    Catherine Murphy made accusations against IBRC's board of management which will prove to be untrue.
    You have access to more and better evidence than TDs do?
    Impressive!


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    #1175
    tipptom
    Registered Users Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    You have access to more and better evidence than TDs do?
    Impressive!
    Government spin doctors throw out slurs on honest opposition TDs on Boards and wont back it up shocker!


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    #1176
    arayess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    kupus wrote: »
    I know terrible isn't it
    In fact why doesnt dob dissolve the dail completely and just declare himself
    DOB.... Lord Protector Of Ireland.

    ...coz basically that is what it's amounting to.

    I'm convinced he is the bastard child of ernst blofeld
    Curly Judge wrote: »
    Catherine Murphy made accusations against IBRC's board of management which will prove to be untrue.

    one or two details may be ..the main thrust of the skulduggery will be proven correct.
    The same charges were thrown at TDs in the garda scandal cos one or two details were wrong, government cheerleaders sought to invalidate the many correct assertions also. this is the same smokescreen crap


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    #1177
    Curly Judge
    Registered Users Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭Curly Judge


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    You have access to more and better evidence than TDs do?
    Impressive!

    No...but I do have more brain power than she has, and my vision isn't clouded by socialist mist.


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    #1178
    Cyrus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,680 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Much as I'd dance a merry jig if DOB got double-tapped, the real story is who in the name of was giving him the free money? TBH I'd take the 1.5% rate myself if I could get it.
    DOB is turning into a convenient scapegoat for FG/FF. Hopefully he'll rat on the lot if he takes much more abuse and isn't even getting his free money for the service to the establishment.

    Any company backed by o Brien will pay similar interest rates, do people not understand this? It isn't a home improvements loan for 10k


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    #1179
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Curly Judge wrote: »
    No...but I do have more brain power than she has, and my vision isn't clouded by socialist mist.
    So you know she's wrong because you think she's thick and a commie.
    Well that's that settled then. Who needs access to the facts (which you obviously don't have)?


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    #1180
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Cyrus wrote: »
    Any company backed by o Brien will pay similar interest rates, do people not understand this? It isn't a home improvements loan for 10k
    Oh, I understand it completely. But the problem still isn't DOB, it's the guy giving him the cheap loan.


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    #1181
    xhoundx
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 327 ✭✭xhoundx


    Curly Judge wrote: »
    No...but I do have more brain power than she has, and my vision isn't clouded by socialist mist.


    That's why you spend your valuable important time posting in AH, such a waste of a great brain


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    #1182
    tipptom
    Registered Users Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    Curly Judge wrote: »
    Catherine Murphy made accusations against IBRC's board of management which will prove to be untrue.
    Cmon,still waiting for these untruths that your massive brain has told us you have,out with it.


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    #1183
    Cyrus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,680 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Oh, I understand it completely. But the problem still isn't DOB, it's the guy giving him the cheap loan.

    its not a cheap loan, the rates are at a level i would expect him to be paying,


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    #1184
    tipptom
    Registered Users Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    No answer,must be more vital info that got shredde....sorry lost misplaced in the proud tradition of Irish political corruption.


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    #1185
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Cyrus wrote: »
    its not a cheap loan, the rates are at a level i would expect him to be paying,
    You said it... exactly what I expect him to pay, about 1/5th of the going rate.


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    #1186
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    You said it... exactly what I expect him to pay, about 1/5th of the going rate.

    Since when is 1.5% 1/5th of the going rate?

    For a loan that size in IBRC I would have guessed 2% without knowing any other details. Is 1.5% really that far off base?


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    #1187
    arayess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Since when is 1.5% 1/5th of the going rate?

    For a loan that size in IBRC I would have guessed 2% without knowing any other details. Is 1.5% really that far off base?

    probably not , in fairness no corporate entity would be paying 7.5%


    however the manner in which he got the loan approval and the fancy terms etc...not to mention the write-off - which in itself it's that unusual but a write-off while shareholders getting paid too is bizarre.
    smacks of even worse than anything that happened under FF's watch.


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    #1188
    tipptom
    Registered Users Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Since when is 1.5% 1/5th of the going rate?

    For a loan that size in IBRC I would have guessed 2% without knowing any other details. Is 1.5% really that far off base?
    That much of a rate cut to a man who was judged to have bribed a FG minister from a bank chaired by a former FG minister and by a bank whom cost the Irish tax payer the most in terms bad debts,ongoing corruption trials and Irelands reputation throughout the world?


    Does giving DOB that rate cut from that bank make sense to you?


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    #1189
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,267 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    The issue is whether 1.5 percent constituted a rate cut or whether that was the rate it was charging for a borrower in that category.

    7.5 percent is way off base for a start


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    #1190
    Curly Judge
    Registered Users Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭Curly Judge


    tipptom wrote: »
    [/B] That much of a rate cut to a man who was judged to have bribed a FG minister from a bank chaired by a former FG minister and by a bank whom cost the Irish tax payer the most in terms bad debts,ongoing corruption trials and Irelands reputation throughout the world?


    Does giving DOB that rate cut from that bank make sense to you?

    Could your massive brain inform us how a commercial bank could look DOB in the eye and say, "We are going to disqualify you for the 1.5% interest rate people of your standing would normally enjoy because Judge Moriarty thinks you are a naughty boy".
    If the bank thought DOB was a reasonable risk, because of his past performance, they had no choice but offer it to him.
    To do otherwise would have been financial madness and would probably have led to the steps of the High Court quicker than you could say "Where's me trousers"
    Arbitrary decisions are only made, and got away with, in the fantasy world of social media.


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