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TD claims gardaí involved in drugs trade

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    #32
    bjork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    Oh no, the Gardai are colluding with drug dealers.



    Kieran Boylan Anyone??


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    #33
    buck65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Until now?

    It's been brought up in the Dail before by himself and Ming

    http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/irish-news/officers-linked-to-heroin-dealing-30256807.html

    Listen, this is all they've got...witholding evidence and tax evasion.

    The point of this is the Gardai , not Wallace.


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    #34
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    buck65 wrote: »
    Listen, this is all they've got...witholding evidence and tax evasion.

    The point of this is the Gardai , not Wallace.

    Seriously???

    You dismiss that as trivial?


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    #35
    Aongus Von Bismarck
    Registered Users Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    This leaves the legalise drugs people in an awful quandry...

    They are pro drugs... but they also hate gardai.


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    #36
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 23,672 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    buck65 wrote: »
    what exactly was his attitude to his own misdeeds?


    He passed it off with poor excuses and kept his political seat while those people whose livelihoods he ruined saw their businesses go under. I have no time for anyone who fcuks people over like he did, and then he tries to ruin more people's lives by stirring up this kind of shyte?

    He sits next to a politician who 20 years ago was sending spliffs in the post to all TD's in an effort to have marijuana legalised. Perhaps Mr. Wallace should start closer to home if he wants to point fingers and moralise about alleged illegal activity.


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    #37
    lertsnim
    Registered Users Posts: 9,718 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    buck65 wrote: »
    And for that guy who brought up Wallace's tax evasion? Are you seriously saying that because Wallace evaded tax he can't speak?

    That's just the usual tarnish the accuser in a pathetic attempt to belittle them. Sadly most people fall for it.


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    #38
    DamagedTrax
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    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    What's this 'we' business? Any Gardaí I know, aren't involved in any alleged criminal activity.





    That'd be me, and I'm not suggesting at all that he can't speak. Of course he can. I'm saying that I have no interest in taking his allegations seriously because of his attitude to his own misdeeds in his own past.

    are you a cop? if so are you also judge, jury and executioner?

    do you not think that it is your job to investigate, provide the evidence gathered and let the judicial system decide who is guilty and what they are guilty of, rather than deciding that you're not going to take an elected official's claims seriously (despite your personal opinion of him)?


    (if you're not a cop then i apologies as ive obviously read the post wrong).


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    #39
    SEPT 23 1989
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    he is known locally as Garda Greenthumb


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    #40
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 23,672 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    DamagedTrax wrote: »
    are you a cop? if so are you also judge, jury and executioner?

    do you not think that it is your job to investigate, provide the evidence gathered and let the judicial system decide who is guilty and what they are guilty of, rather than deciding that you're not going to take an elected official's claims seriously (despite your personal opinion of him)?


    (if you're not a cop then i apologies as ive obviously read the post wrong).


    Nope, I'm not a Garda, but you're absolutely right that a politician should, if they have any evidence of wrongdoing, present it to the proper authorities, rather than making allegations and trying to stoke up anti-Garda sentiment among the general public.


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    #41
    buck65
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    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    He passed it off with poor excuses and kept his political seat while those people whose livelihoods he ruined saw their businesses go under. I have no time for anyone who fcuks people over like he did, and then he tries to ruin more people's lives by stirring up this kind of shyte?

    He sits next to a politician who 20 years ago was sending spliffs in the post to all TD's in an effort to have marijuana legalised. Perhaps Mr. Wallace should start closer to home if he wants to point fingers and moralise about alleged illegal activity.


    Was it not the bank that basically pulled his credit and forced him into liquidation? Thought the 2m tax was used to pay subbies/suppliers etc? Don't think he went out of his way to ****
    anyone over bar the Revenue.

    But what about the good work he's done, should we continue to focus on his tax evasion. Also did the Revenue not agree a settlement with him that he is honouring?


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    #42
    [Deleted User]
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    Peter Anthony wrote: »
    It's true of the drug squad higher ups.

    Link or evidence that proves this?


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    #43
    DamagedTrax
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    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    Nope, I'm not a Garda, but you're absolutely right that a politician should, if they have any evidence of wrongdoing, present it to the proper authorities, rather than making allegations and trying to stoke up anti-Garda sentiment among the general public.

    it is, as stated a few times in the thread, an ongoing claim thats currently being investigated.

    (dont get me wrong, i dont like the guy, he f'd over too many in the past but this isnt about him).


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    #44
    buck65
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    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    Nope, I'm not a Garda, but you're absolutely right that a politician should, if they have any evidence of wrongdoing, present it to the proper authorities, rather than making allegations and trying to stoke up anti-Garda sentiment among the general public.

    Is this what he's doing? stoking up anti Garda sentiment? And as has been mentioned before he did go to the authorities before.

    But hey keep you're head in the clouds, you have obviously made up your mind about this case so don't let any facts get in the way.

    Move on.


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    #45
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    OP
    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    If Mick Wallace wasn't in trouble before, he might be now.
    buck65 wrote: »
    Listen, this is all they've got...witholding evidence and tax evasion.

    The point of this is the Gardai , not Wallace.
    DamagedTrax wrote: »
    it is, as stated a few times in the thread, an ongoing claim thats currently being investigated.

    (dont get me wrong, i dont like the guy, he f'd over too many in the past but this isnt about him).

    :rolleyes:


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    #46
    buck65
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    DamagedTrax wrote: »
    it is, as stated a few times in the thread, an ongoing claim thats currently being investigated.

    (dont get me wrong, i dont like the guy, he f'd over too many in the past but this isnt about him).

    I'm genuinely interested in hearing more about this, I wasn't aware of it tbh.
    I like the guy but didn't always, saw him speak recently and he changed my mind about him and abou this country.


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    #47
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    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    He should examine his own behaviour first before he starts making accusations about other people.



    Why?


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    #48
    buck65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    Valetta wrote: »
    OP







    :rolleyes:

    er...what?


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    #49
    michael999999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    He passed it off with poor excuses and kept his political seat while those people whose livelihoods he ruined saw their businesses go under. I have no time for anyone who fcuks people over like he did, and then he tries to ruin more people's lives by stirring up this kind of shyte?

    He sits next to a politician who 20 years ago was sending spliffs in the post to all TD's in an effort to have marijuana legalised. Perhaps Mr. Wallace should start closer to home if he wants to point fingers and moralise about alleged illegal activity.

    And sitting across the Dail from Fiann Fail leader Michael martin who had large sums of developers money lodged into he's wife's account!


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    #50
    Valetta
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    buck65 wrote: »
    er...what?

    The opening post was specifically about Mick Wallace.


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    #51
    Valetta
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    michael999999 wrote: »
    And sitting across the Dail from Fiann Fail leader Michael martin who had large sums of developers money lodged into he's wife's account!

    What's wrong with that?

    I've had developers' money lodged into my account on numerous occasions.


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    #52
    DamagedTrax
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    buck65 wrote: »
    I'm genuinely interested in hearing more about this, I wasn't aware of it tbh.
    I like the guy but didn't always, saw him speak recently and he changed my mind about him and abou this country.

    he got out owing a lot of people money in his wake.

    now i know he went thru the proper channels and made a deal with revenue in the end but that doesnt excuse him in my eyes. the revenue are the very last people that needs the money in those situations.


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    #53
    GerB40
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    FGR wrote: »
    So have you reported this to the Ombudsman and/or local Garda Superintendent?

    What do I do? Tell the Gardai that a Garda is crooked? They have always looked after their own and until that changes I won't be telling any officials. And the Garda I'm referring to has been suspended before. I don't know exactly why but I live in a fairly small town and plenty of people know what he/she gets up to. The Gardaí must be smart enough to know too but this person is in a high enough position that might frighten the average cop on the street into keeping quiet. And when it comes to drugs where I live nobody tells anyone what they don't need to know.. So unless this particular Garda starts killing people, I'll be keeping quiet. Safer that way.


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    #54
    Beano
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    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    Nope, I'm not a Garda, but you're absolutely right that a politician should, if they have any evidence of wrongdoing, present it to the proper authorities, rather than making allegations and trying to stoke up anti-Garda sentiment among the general public.

    which is exactly what he has done. he gave the information he had to the garda ombudsman. Months ago.


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    #55
    Satriale
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    The Thin White Line?


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    #56
    mikom
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    If only Gerry Ryan was still on the air, then we could have had a phone in about this topic........


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    #57
    buck65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    GerB40 wrote: »
    What do I do? Tell the Gardai that a Garda is crooked? They have always looked after their own and until that changes I won't be telling any officials. And the Garda I'm referring to has been suspended before. I don't know exactly why but I live in a fairly small town and plenty of people know what he/she gets up to. The Gardaí must be smart enough to know too but this person is in a high enough position that might frighten the average cop on the street into keeping quiet. And when it comes to drugs where I live nobody tells anyone what they don't need to know.. So unless this particular Garda starts killing people, I'll be keeping quiet. Safer that way.

    Does the average Garda on the street give a damn?


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    #58
    buck65
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    mikom wrote: »
    If only Gerry Ryan was still on the air, then we could have had a phone in about this topic........

    Gerry might have had some evidence himself?!


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    #59
    joe swanson
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    Tax cheat who took from his employees gives out about illegality. What's a disgrace is that this man has not been prosecuted.

    He should back these allegations up immediately as if true are very serious and need to be investigated.


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    #60
    buck65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    joe swanson wrote: »
    Tax cheat who took from his employees gives out about illegality. What's a disgrace is that this man has not been prosecuted.

    He should back these allegations up immediately as if true are very serious and need to be investigated.

    Read the ****ing thread homes


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    #61
    Beano
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    joe swanson wrote: »
    Tax cheat who took from his employees gives out about illegality. What's a disgrace is that this man has not been prosecuted.

    He should back these allegations up immediately as if true are very serious and need to be investigated.

    OHFFS would you ever actually read the thread before posting. He has passed the info to the garda ombudsman and they are being investigated.


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