TD claims gardaí involved in drugs trade

Iwannahurl · 11-12-2014 2:26pm #1

If Mick Wallace wasn't in trouble before, he might be now.

Independent TD Mick Wallace has claimed that some members of the Garda are involved in drug dealing.

The claims include allegations that a senior garda in the Midlands supplied drugs for distribution to his girlfriend; that gardaí supervised the removal of drugs from boats and that gardaí have tasked drug dealers with selling seized drugs.

Speaking this week at an event in Dublin called Banter, Mr Wallace said he and TD Clare Daly and then TD Luke Ming Flanagan “didn’t bring a quarter of what information we actually have from serving guards, ex-guards, members of the public of some terrible things that have been going on and are still going on in the country that involve malpractice”.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/mick-wallace-claims-garda%C3%AD-involved-in-drugs-trade-1.2034029

Kermit.de.frog · 11-12-2014 2:27pm

Mick Wallace strikes me as a guy who tests substances himself from time to time.

AnonoBoy · 11-12-2014 2:27pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Mick Wallace strikes me as a guy who tests substances himself from time to time.

Could be how he knows?

Beano · 11-12-2014 2:28pm

I'm sure somebody will be along shortly to say that the guards were just using their discretion.

Beano · 11-12-2014 2:29pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Mick Wallace strikes me as a guy who tests substances himself from time to time.

play the man and not the ball. good man.

stevedublin · 11-12-2014 2:29pm

Iwannahurl wrote: »

If Mick Wallace wasn't in trouble before, he might be now.

Um, surely it would be the guards in trouble?

Beano · 11-12-2014 2:31pm

stevedublin wrote: »

Um, surely it would be the guards in trouble?

you do know how this country works, right?

kerry4sam · 11-12-2014 2:34pm

Iwannahurl wrote: »

If Mick Wallace wasn't in trouble before, he might be now.

Time will tell...

Cee-Jay-Cee · 11-12-2014 2:35pm

Even if it's true then it'll get no attention as the biggest dumbest prick the history of politics broke the story.

dr.bollocko · 11-12-2014 2:37pm

Imagine if they were. considering how delusional they are about the street value of every haul they catch they'd just rip everyone off anyway.

"Can I've an eighth there guard?"

" that has a street value of 500,000 euro. And if you don't buy it I'll arrest ya."

DeadHand · 11-12-2014 2:38pm

I know of a few Gardai who abuse illegal drugs as happily as anyone but never even heard rumours of them being involved in dealing.

Wouldn't surprise me.

milltown · 11-12-2014 2:38pm

If he had raised it in the Dail previously, wouldn't it be on public record already?

One eyed Jack · 11-12-2014 2:39pm

This coming from the politician who blew off two million in tax evasion as if it was nothing? He should examine his own behaviour first before he starts making accusations about other people.

ROCKMAN · 11-12-2014 2:40pm

Ah the cheap /free supply source could explain the Club card point system of the other thread ,,

Joe prim · 11-12-2014 2:41pm

I demand Wallace names the guilty parties, as i need to get my stash for xmas want to write an angry letter to my local TD, dude. Also, what's he done with Gromit?

Peter Anthony · 11-12-2014 2:41pm

One eyed Jack wrote: »

This coming from the politician who blew off two million in tax evasion as if it was nothing? He should examine his own behaviour first before he starts making accusations about other people.

Yes lets just change the topic from more criminal corruption of your colleagues .

chrysagon · 11-12-2014 2:43pm

wow..corruption in Ireland....... say it aint so

GerB40 · 11-12-2014 2:45pm

I won't go into any detail but I know for a fact that this is true. I don't know if it's the same person as Mick is referring to but at least one Garda in the midlands does dabble in "pharmaceutical supplying".

Beano · 11-12-2014 2:46pm

milltown wrote: »

If he had raised it in the Dail previously, wouldn't it be on public record already?

it is. and apparently currently under investigation by the garda ombudsman.

buck65 · 11-12-2014 2:54pm

Cops have made Wallace' life difficult since Shattergate, to the point where they watch his house and follow him.
Not surprised by this at all - we all know crooked cops at a local level.

And for that guy who brought up Wallace's tax evasion? Are you seriously saying that because Wallace evaded tax he can't speak?

hfallada · 11-12-2014 2:57pm

Is he aware there is a revenue hot line to report drugs or the garda confidential line. There is no point giving out about the garda without reporting it properly

buck65 · 11-12-2014 2:58pm

Like to the ombudsman??

FFs revenue hotline

Beano · 11-12-2014 3:01pm

hfallada wrote: »

Is he aware there is a revenue hot line to report drugs or the garda confidential line. There is no point giving out about the garda without reporting it properly

he has reported it to the garda ombudsman. do you think he should ring the garda confidential line and tell them that one of their own is selling drugs?

One eyed Jack · 11-12-2014 3:02pm

buck65 wrote: »

Cops have made Wallace' life difficult since Shattergate, to the point where they watch his house and follow him.
Not surprised by this at all - we all know crooked cops at a local level.

What's this 'we' business? Any Gardaí I know, aren't involved in any alleged criminal activity.

And for that guy who brought up Wallace's tax evasion? Are you seriously saying that because Wallace evaded tax he can't speak?

That'd be me, and I'm not suggesting at all that he can't speak. Of course he can. I'm saying that I have no interest in taking his allegations seriously because of his attitude to his own misdeeds in his own past.

Valetta · 11-12-2014 3:04pm

buck65 wrote: »

Cops have made Wallace' life difficult since Shattergate, to the point where they watch his house and follow him.
Not surprised by this at all - we all know crooked cops at a local level.

And for that guy who brought up Wallace's tax evasion? Are you seriously saying that because Wallace evaded tax he can't speak?

Are you seriously suggesting that Wallace only brought up this unfounded allegation because of his perceived harassement by the guards?

If so he should be prosecuted for withholding information.

FGR · 11-12-2014 3:06pm

GerB40 wrote: »

I won't go into any detail but I know for a fact that this is true. I don't know if it's the same person as Mick is referring to but at least one Garda in the midlands does dabble in "pharmaceutical supplying".

So have you reported this to the Ombudsman and/or local Garda Superintendent?

buck65 · 11-12-2014 3:10pm

Valetta wrote: »

Are you seriously suggesting that Wallace only brought up this unfounded allegation because of his perceived harassement by the guards?

If so he should be prosecuted for withholding information.

No, Wallace has had this information for a while but persistent badgering by the boys in blue has perhaps made his say "**** this" here goes...

Shatter misjudged Wallace badly to the point where it cost him his job, the bully boys are doing the same.

Have a look at the **** going on in the Ian Bailey case and what has happened in Donegal in the past.

buck65 · 11-12-2014 3:11pm

One eyed Jack wrote: »

What's this 'we' business? Any Gardaí I know, aren't involved in any alleged criminal activity.

That'd be me, and I'm not suggesting at all that he can't speak. Of course he can. I'm saying that I have no interest in taking his allegations seriously because of his attitude to his own misdeeds in his own past.

what exactly was his attitude to his own misdeeds?

Valetta · 11-12-2014 3:13pm

buck65 wrote: »

No, Wallace has had this information for a while but persistent badgering by the boys in blue has perhaps made his say "**** this" here goes...

Shatter misjudged Wallace badly to the point where it cost him his job, the bully boys are doing the same.

Have a look at the **** going on in the Ian Bailey case and what has happened in Donegal in the past.

So do you have a problem with Wallace withholding this information he supposedly has until now?

My name is URL · 11-12-2014 3:18pm

Valetta wrote: »

So do you have a problem with Wallace withholding this information he supposedly has until now?

Until now?

It's been brought up in the Dail before by himself and Ming

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/irish-news/officers-linked-to-heroin-dealing-30256807.html

buck65 · 11-12-2014 3:20pm

I can understand why he did, but as stated earlier this is an investigation ongoing into his claims and perhaps these allegations are also in play there.
This might be just going public. Let's see , but dismissing a fella who evaded tax and might have different political / fashion beliefs coming out with this is ridiculous.
He exposed Shatter and the Commissioner to an extent also, most people would agree that these 2 guys had to go because of their arrogance but people are still quick to slam Wallace.
We need more Mick Wallace's in this ****ing corrupt toilet of a country.

bjork · 11-12-2014 3:20pm

Oh no, the Gardai are colluding with drug dealers.

Kieran Boylan Anyone??

buck65 · 11-12-2014 3:22pm

My name is URL wrote: »

Until now?

It's been brought up in the Dail before by himself and Ming

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/irish-news/officers-linked-to-heroin-dealing-30256807.html

Listen, this is all they've got...witholding evidence and tax evasion.

The point of this is the Gardai , not Wallace.

Valetta · 11-12-2014 3:26pm

buck65 wrote: »

Listen, this is all they've got...witholding evidence and tax evasion.

The point of this is the Gardai , not Wallace.

Seriously???

You dismiss that as trivial?

Aongus Von Bismarck · 11-12-2014 3:27pm

This leaves the legalise drugs people in an awful quandry...

They are pro drugs... but they also hate gardai.

One eyed Jack · 11-12-2014 3:29pm

buck65 wrote: »

what exactly was his attitude to his own misdeeds?

He passed it off with poor excuses and kept his political seat while those people whose livelihoods he ruined saw their businesses go under. I have no time for anyone who fcuks people over like he did, and then he tries to ruin more people's lives by stirring up this kind of shyte?

He sits next to a politician who 20 years ago was sending spliffs in the post to all TD's in an effort to have marijuana legalised. Perhaps Mr. Wallace should start closer to home if he wants to point fingers and moralise about alleged illegal activity.

lertsnim · 11-12-2014 3:29pm

buck65 wrote: »

And for that guy who brought up Wallace's tax evasion? Are you seriously saying that because Wallace evaded tax he can't speak?

That's just the usual tarnish the accuser in a pathetic attempt to belittle them. Sadly most people fall for it.

DamagedTrax · 11-12-2014 3:29pm

One eyed Jack wrote: »

What's this 'we' business? Any Gardaí I know, aren't involved in any alleged criminal activity.

That'd be me, and I'm not suggesting at all that he can't speak. Of course he can. I'm saying that I have no interest in taking his allegations seriously because of his attitude to his own misdeeds in his own past.

are you a cop? if so are you also judge, jury and executioner?

do you not think that it is your job to investigate, provide the evidence gathered and let the judicial system decide who is guilty and what they are guilty of, rather than deciding that you're not going to take an elected official's claims seriously (despite your personal opinion of him)?

(if you're not a cop then i apologies as ive obviously read the post wrong).

SEPT 23 1989 · 11-12-2014 3:30pm

he is known locally as Garda Greenthumb

One eyed Jack · 11-12-2014 3:35pm

DamagedTrax wrote: »

are you a cop? if so are you also judge, jury and executioner?

do you not think that it is your job to investigate, provide the evidence gathered and let the judicial system decide who is guilty and what they are guilty of, rather than deciding that you're not going to take an elected official's claims seriously (despite your personal opinion of him)?

(if you're not a cop then i apologies as ive obviously read the post wrong).

Nope, I'm not a Garda, but you're absolutely right that a politician should, if they have any evidence of wrongdoing, present it to the proper authorities, rather than making allegations and trying to stoke up anti-Garda sentiment among the general public.

buck65 · 11-12-2014 3:36pm

One eyed Jack wrote: »

He passed it off with poor excuses and kept his political seat while those people whose livelihoods he ruined saw their businesses go under. I have no time for anyone who fcuks people over like he did, and then he tries to ruin more people's lives by stirring up this kind of shyte?

He sits next to a politician who 20 years ago was sending spliffs in the post to all TD's in an effort to have marijuana legalised. Perhaps Mr. Wallace should start closer to home if he wants to point fingers and moralise about alleged illegal activity.

Was it not the bank that basically pulled his credit and forced him into liquidation? Thought the 2m tax was used to pay subbies/suppliers etc? Don't think he went out of his way to ****
anyone over bar the Revenue.

But what about the good work he's done, should we continue to focus on his tax evasion. Also did the Revenue not agree a settlement with him that he is honouring?

11-12-2014 3:37pm

Peter Anthony wrote: »

It's true of the drug squad higher ups.

Link or evidence that proves this?

DamagedTrax · 11-12-2014 3:38pm

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Nope, I'm not a Garda, but you're absolutely right that a politician should, if they have any evidence of wrongdoing, present it to the proper authorities, rather than making allegations and trying to stoke up anti-Garda sentiment among the general public.

it is, as stated a few times in the thread, an ongoing claim thats currently being investigated.

(dont get me wrong, i dont like the guy, he f'd over too many in the past but this isnt about him).

buck65 · 11-12-2014 3:39pm

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Nope, I'm not a Garda, but you're absolutely right that a politician should, if they have any evidence of wrongdoing, present it to the proper authorities, rather than making allegations and trying to stoke up anti-Garda sentiment among the general public.

Is this what he's doing? stoking up anti Garda sentiment? And as has been mentioned before he did go to the authorities before.

But hey keep you're head in the clouds, you have obviously made up your mind about this case so don't let any facts get in the way.

Move on.

Valetta · 11-12-2014 3:41pm

OP

Iwannahurl wrote: »

If Mick Wallace wasn't in trouble before, he might be now.

buck65 wrote: »

Listen, this is all they've got...witholding evidence and tax evasion.

The point of this is the Gardai , not Wallace.

DamagedTrax wrote: »

it is, as stated a few times in the thread, an ongoing claim thats currently being investigated.

(dont get me wrong, i dont like the guy, he f'd over too many in the past but this isnt about him).

:rolleyes:

buck65 · 11-12-2014 3:42pm

DamagedTrax wrote: »

it is, as stated a few times in the thread, an ongoing claim thats currently being investigated.

(dont get me wrong, i dont like the guy, he f'd over too many in the past but this isnt about him).

I'm genuinely interested in hearing more about this, I wasn't aware of it tbh.
I like the guy but didn't always, saw him speak recently and he changed my mind about him and abou this country.

11-12-2014 3:43pm

One eyed Jack wrote: »

He should examine his own behaviour first before he starts making accusations about other people.

Why?

buck65 · 11-12-2014 3:43pm

Valetta wrote: »

OP

:rolleyes:

er...what?

michael999999 · 11-12-2014 3:44pm

One eyed Jack wrote: »

He passed it off with poor excuses and kept his political seat while those people whose livelihoods he ruined saw their businesses go under. I have no time for anyone who fcuks people over like he did, and then he tries to ruin more people's lives by stirring up this kind of shyte?

He sits next to a politician who 20 years ago was sending spliffs in the post to all TD's in an effort to have marijuana legalised. Perhaps Mr. Wallace should start closer to home if he wants to point fingers and moralise about alleged illegal activity.

And sitting across the Dail from Fiann Fail leader Michael martin who had large sums of developers money lodged into he's wife's account!

Valetta · 11-12-2014 3:45pm

buck65 wrote: »

er...what?

The opening post was specifically about Mick Wallace.

Valetta · 11-12-2014 3:46pm

michael999999 wrote: »

And sitting across the Dail from Fiann Fail leader Michael martin who had large sums of developers money lodged into he's wife's account!

What's wrong with that?

I've had developers' money lodged into my account on numerous occasions.

TD claims gardaí involved in drugs trade

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