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    #152
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,502 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    Fine Gael, the political party, were found guilty of tax evasion not that long ago.

    Have you a link to that. I'd be interested in reading it. Thanks


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    #153
    Dempsey
    Registered Users Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    tayto lover wrote: »
    So you are happy having tax cheats in the Dail pointing out the failures and wrongs of others.
    Would you vote for Bertie if he runs again?

    When you find someone with this magical 'clear record', let us all know because its probably appearing clear because you havent dug deep enough.

    I dont mind Mick Wallace at all. He's asking the questions that nobody else is asking and the government trying every trick not to answer. I'd much rather that than someone with a clear record but doesnt know his arse from his elbow.

    As for the Bertie strawman argument :rolleyes:


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    #154
    DamagedTrax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭DamagedTrax


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Have you a link to that. I'd be interested in reading it. Thanks

    yup, me too.


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    #155
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    Pocoyo wrote: »
    Open training,A clear out of senior gardai that enabled proven cover ups for other gardai and family member,adequate training in conflict resolution and reporting of crimes etc.

    That seems half sensible but it doesn't sound like "reform from the ground up" to me or something that would solve the problems of an "utterly corrupt" police force. But maybe that's because your post prior to the above post was a little hyperbolic.


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    #156
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Have you a link to that. I'd be interested in reading it. Thanks

    https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.ie%2Firish-news%2Ffear-of-expos-forced-noonans-tax-admission-26248623.html&ei=jVaLVIr0GoSM7Ab0w4GgCg&usg=AFQjCNE27rBK4lb6eFktA83HuCOrHPbmYg&bvm=bv.81828268,d.ZGU


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    #157
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    You do understand what 'limited' means?
    As in 'xxxxxx company limited'

    That in no way answers my question.


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    #158
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,502 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Dempsey wrote: »
    When you find someone with this magical 'clear record', let us all know because its probably appearing clear because you havent dug deep enough.

    I dont mind Mick Wallace at all. He's asking the questions that nobody else is asking and the government trying every trick not to answer. I'd much rather that than someone with a clear record but doesnt know his arse from his elbow.

    As for the Bertie strawman argument :rolleyes:

    Not meant to be a strawman argument at all.
    One chancer is as bad as the next.
    I haven't even read the article because as soon as I saw Wallace's name I stopped reading. I just can't stand his type i.e. people who do wrong and then point out other wrong-doers.


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    #159
    Pocoyo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo


    Valetta wrote: »
    That in no way answers my question.

    Guy!!! :D

    FFS GUY..... :rolleyes: Bahaha im obviously a sexist animal. :D


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    #160
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    Valetta wrote: »
    That in no way answers my question.

    Maybe you could rephrase the question.

    While you're at it, maybe you could explain how using the word 'guy' is being sexist?


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    #161
    Dempsey
    Registered Users Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Not meant to be a strawman argument at all.
    One chancer is as bad as the next.
    I haven't even read the article because as soon as I saw Wallace's name I stopped reading. I just can't stand his type i.e. people who do wrong and then point out other wrong-doers.

    Ignoring a problem just because of the person asking has been the policy of governments going back to the inception of the state. Your stance is no better than all those you wish to see turfed out of the dail.


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    #162
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    Maybe you could rephrase the question.

    While you're at it, maybe you could explain how using the word 'guy' is being sexist?

    My question was very clear.


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    #163
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    Valetta wrote: »
    My question was very clear.

    Not to me.

    Maybe you could give it some context?


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    #164
    Pocoyo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    Maybe you could rephrase the question.

    While you're at it, maybe you could explain how using the word 'guy' is being sexist?

    Ah sure im a dissident isis terrorist for supporting the protest im a dole sponger even though i work 45 hours a week and now im sexist for using the word guy. :D



    This place is gone tail up.


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    #165
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users Posts: 19,613 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.ie%2Firish-news%2Ffear-of-expos-forced-noonans-tax-admission-26248623.html&ei=jVaLVIr0GoSM7Ab0w4GgCg&usg=AFQjCNE27rBK4lb6eFktA83HuCOrHPbmYg&bvm=bv.81828268,d.ZGU

    Id forgotten about FGs own tax evasion, means they are in no position to be criticising Mick Wallace tbh. Them or FF.


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    #166
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    Not to me.

    Maybe you could give it some context?

    It was a direct reply to your post, so you gave the context.


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    #167
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,502 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Ignoring a problem just because of the person asking has been the policy of governments going back to the inception of the state. Your stance is no better than all those you wish to see turfed out of the dail.

    Rubbish.
    Wallace is a hypocrite and I hate hypocrites.
    Don't like corrupt garda but them being pointed out by a scavenger like Wallace does me no good.


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    #168
    Dempsey
    Registered Users Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Rubbish.
    Wallace is a hypocrite and I hate hypocrites.
    Don't like corrupt garda but them being pointed out by a scavenger like Wallace does me no good.

    You put your principles before solving a problem. Good for you.


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    #169
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,502 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Dempsey wrote: »
    You put your principles before solving a problem. Good for you.

    Yeah because the problem was diluted imo by the fact that Wallace was highlighting it. When he pays us back the 2 million I'll read it.


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    #170
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    thousands of Gardai are doing penalty points favours for friends and family.

    Are you for real? I stated that Daly released thousands of names and you said prove it yet you use the exact same claim to back up your view? So to recount your hypocritical view. You think it's a disgrace that Clare Dalys arrest was in the media yet you have no issue with her releasing information on thousands of drivers who have done nothing wrong. glad to clear that up.


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    #171
    AboutaWeekAgo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭AboutaWeekAgo


    The faux outrage about Mick Wallace is quite funny. Listen to what's being said, not who's saying it.

    I've been saying it for years but a huge inquiry needs to happen with the Gardai. You might say it's only a few bad apples but more and more cases keep coming to light and it's can't be the same few doing it all.


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    #172
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users Posts: 28,394 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Rubbish.
    Wallace is a hypocrite and I hate hypocrites.
    Don't like corrupt garda but them being pointed out by a scavenger like Wallace does me no good.

    That's a strange stance.


    If your house was burgled and the stuff sold would you have an issue with the person who bought it telling the Gards who they got it from....or is it restricted to Wallace?


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    #173
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »
    The faux outrage about Mick Wallace is quite funny. Listen to what's being said, not who's saying it.

    I've been saying it for years but a huge inquiry needs to happen with the Gardai. You might say it's only a few bad apples but more and more cases keep coming to light and it's can't be the same few doing it all.

    The credibility of who's making allegations is critical.

    Whether it be Mick Wallace or AboutaWeekAgo.


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    #174
    Dempsey
    Registered Users Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Yeah because the problem was diluted imo by the fact that Wallace was highlighting it. When he pays us back the 2 million I'll read it.

    Thinly veiled small mindedness if you ask me

    The guards can go on being corrupt until this dies down and someone besides Wallace starts questioning it. Laughable really.


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    #175
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,502 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    That's a strange stance.


    If your house was burgled and the stuff sold would you have an issue with the person who bought it telling the Gards who they got it from....or is it restricted to Wallace?

    Not a fitting analogy.

    More like "He's a criminal but i'm a decent criminal".


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    #176
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Thinly veiled small mindedness if you ask me

    The guards can go on being corrupt until this dies down and someone besides Wallace starts questioning it. Laughable really.

    Alternatively he could present some actual evidence.


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    #177
    Dempsey
    Registered Users Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Alternatively he could present some actual evidence.

    I think you were playing that tune with the penalty point scandal was first mooted in the Dail


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    #178
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Rubbish.
    Wallace is a hypocrite and I hate hypocrites.
    Don't like corrupt garda but them being pointed out by a scavenger like Wallace does me no good.

    I hope we're not getting into 'attack the whistleblower' territory......


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    #179
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    I hope we're not getting into 'attack the whistleblower' territory......

    Wallace isn't a whistleblower.


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    #180
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,502 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    I hope we're not getting into 'attack the whistleblower' territory......

    The Whistleblowers have nothing corrupt against them. Wallace has.


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    #181
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Are you for real? I stated that Daly released thousands of names and you said prove it yet you use the exact same claim to back up your view? So to recount your hypocritical view. You think it's a disgrace that Clare Dalys arrest was in the media yet you have no issue with her releasing information on thousands of drivers who have done nothing wrong. glad to clear that up.

    How many points did Wallace get on his license that time?
    You know, the time the FG MoJ, on live TV, blurted out the gossip given to him by the commissioner...


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