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U2 Innocence & Experience Tour 2015 (Dublin and Belfast gigs confirmed, post #275)

  • 03-12-2014 12:40pm
    #1
    Site Banned Posts: 824 ✭✭✭Shiraz 4.99


    Announcement due at 9pm Eastern apparently (very soon).
    Some venues have already leaked.

    8090.jpg

    Looks indoors & pricey but we'll see.
    Title of tour should ensure Songs of Experience will be dropping soon.

    http://www.u2.com/tour


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,658 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    I'd be shocked that any promoters here didn't big up this announcement!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭Limerick91




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,658 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Insane amount of room for extra dates in the listed cities. Surprised at nowhere outside London bar Glasgow for UK though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 618 ✭✭✭bonoman66




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 618 ✭✭✭bonoman66


    Limerick91 wrote: »

    Special shows are being planned for Dublin for the end of next year to benefit the U2-initiated Music Generation project and details will follow once they are finalised.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭lukin


    The Irish dates will obviously not be indoor as our largest indoor arena is the 3Arena and that only holds 9,500 all seated (or 14,500 seated + standing).
    Even if they played ten nights in a row there it would not be enough to satisfy demand.
    More likely that there will be three nights at Croker like they did for the last tour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,451 ✭✭✭Wrongway1985


    lukin wrote: »
    The Irish dates will obviously not be indoor as our largest indoor arena is the 3Arena and that only holds 9,500 all seated (or 14,500 seated + standing).
    Even if they played ten nights in a row there it would not be enough to satisfy demand.
    More likely that there will be three nights at Croker like they did for the last tour.

    Nah it's indoors for sure Croker in November definitely not!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,040 ✭✭✭paulbok


    Gonna be mid to end of November, a bit parky to be outdoors. Could be a heap of nights in the Point, 11 nights would be the same as 2 Croker gigs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭lukin


    paulbok wrote: »
    Gonna be mid to end of November, a bit parky to be outdoors. Could be a heap of nights in the Point, 11 nights would be the same as 2 Croker gigs.

    The average attendance at the 3 Croker gigs in 2009 was about 81000. Total attendance was 243,198. That would be roughly equal to about five and a half 3Arena gigs for one Croker gig and 3 Croker gigs is equal to seventeen nights in the 3Arena (I am taking the 3Arena capacity as 14,500).
    So it will almost certainly be Croker, probably in August as there are no gigs listed for then in the dates announced today. If you were a U2 fan in say Italy or Spain you would probably be a little annoyed that they are playing a lager venue just in Ireland (hence making it easier to get tickets) but U2 have always played more gigs in Ireland on any tour they do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    lukin wrote: »
    The average attendance at the 3 Croker gigs in 2009 was about 81000. Total attendance was 243,198. That would be roughly equal to about five and a half 3Arena gigs for one Croker gig and 3 Croker gigs is equal to seventeen nights in the 3Arena (I am taking the 3Arena capacity as 14,500).
    So it will almost certainly be Croker, probably in August as there are no gigs listed for then in the dates announced today. If you were a U2 fan in say Italy or Spain you would probably be a little annoyed that they are playing a lager venue just in Ireland (hence making it easier to get tickets) but U2 have always played more gigs in Ireland on any tour they do.

    Croke Park would not have the capacity for 3 gigs in August.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭lukin


    Croke Park would not have the capacity for 3 gigs in August.
    Height of the GAA season I know but I can't see any other way they can do it unless they play The Phoenix Park or The Aviva but The Aviva would only take 50000 for one gig.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,658 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    lukin wrote: »
    Height of the GAA season I know but I can't see any other way they can do it unless they play The Phoenix Park or The Aviva but The Aviva would only take 50000 for one gig.

    they said they playing Dublin at the end of November. That means it won't be Croker!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭lukin


    Mushy wrote: »
    they said they playing Dublin at the end of November. That means it won't be Croker!

    I haven't seen any quotes from any member of U2 saying this. It seems to be just the person who wrote the article for the newspapers assuming this will be the case. U2 haven't played an indoor gig in Ireland since 1990.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭johnpatrick81


    http://www.u2.com/news/title/u2-innocence-experience-tour-2015
    Special shows are being planned for Dublin for the end of next year to benefit the U2-initiated Music Generation project and details will follow once they are finalised.

    Seems it's actually gonna be indoors in Ireland so! When was the last time that happened?!!

    Ridiculous selling tickets for gigs (london) almost a year early. How is that even allowed? I see it more and more these days. Ticketmaster must be making a fortune on interest in the banks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭lukin


    OK so it looks like it will not be outdoor. But I can see this becoming quite a controversial issue if they play the 3Arena. Demand will far exceed supply and U2 will be slaughtered over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭cometogether


    http://www.u2.com/news/title/u2-innocence-experience-tour-2015



    Seems it's actually gonna be indoors in Ireland so! When was the last time that happened?!!

    Ridiculous selling tickets for gigs (london) almost a year early. How is that even allowed? I see it more and more these days. Ticketmaster must be making a fortune on interest in the banks!

    Why wouldn't it be allowed?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭cometogether


    lukin wrote: »
    OK so it looks like it will not be outdoor. But I can see this becoming quite a controversial issue if they play the 3Arena. Demand will far exceed supply and U2 will be slaughtered over it.

    Hardly! They'll almost certainly do the usual stadium tour in 2016 after the more 'intimate' gigs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy



    Ridiculous selling tickets for gigs (london) almost a year early. How is that even allowed? I see it more and more these days. Ticketmaster must be making a fortune on interest in the banks!

    Its a complete mess of a tour announcement.
    Last minute rush job ,presales start tomorrow ,ridiculous .

    Ticket prices are very expensive ,the band have resorted to scalping.
    Red zone beside stage in London is £220 ,cheap seats are £35 but they are crap locations,its £166 pounds for any sort of a decent view .
    Floor standing is cheap but will be almost impossible to get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭lukin


    Hardly! They'll almost certainly do the usual stadium tour in 2016 after the more 'intimate' gigs

    As far as I know the tour announced today is the only tour they are doing in support of this album. I don't think they will play stadiums in 2016. That's what I think anyway. As the previous poster said it is a mess. Not announcing any Irish dates today was a bad PR move. Saying "they haven't been finalised yet" translates as "eh, we haven't worked that one out yet".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 618 ✭✭✭bonoman66


    lukin wrote: »
    OK so it looks like it will not be outdoor. But I can see this becoming quite a controversial issue if they play the 3Arena. Demand will far exceed supply and U2 will be slaughtered over it.

    Here's hoping for 20 nights at the 3Arena so... :eek:

    Just kidding but we just might get a ticket or two if they played somewhere between 5 to to 10 nights (I know that's even mental but as its possible some cities in the USA might get up to 8 dates if all the rumours/fourm chatter plays out correctly, then they might try something similar here)..

    Last time I saw them indoor was 89 'at the Point'...sorry 3 Arena....:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    bonoman66 wrote: »
    Just kidding but we just might get a ticket or two if they played somewhere between 5 to to 10 nights (I know that's even mental but as its possible some cities in the USA might get up to 8 dates if all the rumours/fourm chatter plays out correctly, then they might try something similar here)..

    There will be loads of other dates added at a later stage ,the initial announcement is to create hype and demand.

    The boys primary motive is money ,they will play as much as they can .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,040 ✭✭✭SteM



    The Lovetown shows with BB King back in 1999 were in the Point.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vdCzIStGmg

    The tickets went on sale only through the Point Depot IIRC. People queued up through the night to get them, the car park outside the Point became a shanty town for the night :). Myself and some mates left school early, travelled into Dublin and joined the queue. We got tickets for the St. Stephen's Day gig at around 3am (they decided to start selling them early due to the crowd size) and we wandered around the city centre for the rest of the night until we could get a bus home. Walking up the quays from the Point at that hour of the morning with tickets felt dodgy, lots of touts around looking to buy them and offering silly money for the NYE tickets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭lukin


    I'd be surprised if they played ten nights at the 3Arena. I remember back in 1992 when they played the indoor leg of the ZooTV tour they didn't play any Irish dates because The Point (as it was called then) was too small.
    They were criticised for it but Bono said at the time they would have to play ten nights at The Point to satisfy demand and they didn't want to do that as then it becomes "like going to work".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭johnpatrick81


    Why wouldn't it be allowed?:confused:

    I dunno, just doesn't sit right with me. A whole year? The 1D tickets announcement stinks of trying to jump in on xmas market. I think there should be a 6 month max limit between when the event is on and when the tickets go on sale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 618 ✭✭✭bonoman66


    SteM wrote: »
    The Lovetown shows with BB King back in 1999 were in the Point.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vdCzIStGmg

    The tickets went on sale only through the Point Depot IIRC. People queued up through the night to get them, the car park outside the Point became a shanty town for the night :). Myself and some mates left school early, travelled into Dublin and joined the queue. We got tickets for the St. Stephen's Day gig at around 3am (they decided to start selling them early due to the crowd size) and we wandered around the city centre for the rest of the night until we could get a bus home. Walking up the quays from the Point at that hour of the morning with tickets felt dodgy, lots of touts around looking to buy them and offering silly money for the NYE tickets.

    1989 - typo above.. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭legohouse


    SteM wrote: »
    The Lovetown shows with BB King back in 1999 were in the Point.



    The tickets went on sale only through the Point Depot IIRC. People queued up through the night to get them, the car park outside the Point became a shanty town for the night :). Myself and some mates left school early, travelled into Dublin and joined the queue. We got tickets for the St. Stephen's Day gig at around 3am (they decided to start selling them early due to the crowd size) and we wandered around the city centre for the rest of the night until we could get a bus home. Walking up the quays from the Point at that hour of the morning with tickets felt dodgy, lots of touts around looking to buy them and offering silly money for the NYE tickets.

    I remember queing for these as well..
    Was there all night but we managed to get tickets for thje NYE gig and the Stephens day gig...
    we even brought a flask and all with us lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭Messi19


    Taken from the Music Generation website:

    It’s a Beautiful Day! Music Generation delighted to be associated with U2’s forthcoming tour.

    04 December 2014
    It's a beautiful day for all U2 fans and for all Music Generation partners and participants across the country. We are thrilled to be associated with the announcement of U2's first tour in a decade, which will include two Dublin dates.
    The iNNOCENCE + eXPERIENCE Tour will see U2 play 19 cities worldwide next year. Watch this space for more details!








    Two Dublin dates? Yeah, and the rest!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭RQ2013


    Has anyone tried buying pre sale tickets for any of the foreign cities? Are they all sold out or are they easy to get? I'm in two minds whether to sign up and try get tickets. Could make a city break of it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭johnpatrick81


    I was tempted to sign up so I'd get access to the sale tomorrow, but think I'll just wait til the general sale and if I get some GA I'll work from there. It's so far away!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 505 ✭✭✭Koptain Liverpool


    lukin wrote: »
    OK so it looks like it will not be outdoor. But I can see this becoming quite a controversial issue if they play the 3Arena. Demand will far exceed supply and U2 will be slaughtered over it.

    Nonsense.

    The fact is that most people would prefer indoor shows, outdoor shows are ****e in comparison. No not everybody will be able to get a ticket but many people will. Anyone who doesn´t will just have to wait until the next time.

    It´s not that unusual for demand for concert tickets to exceed supply you know. There have been plenty of gigs I wanted to go to but didn´t get tickets and I´d rather have it that way than have every gig I go to be in a big field.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,451 ✭✭✭Wrongway1985


    lukin wrote: »
    The average attendance at the 3 Croker gigs in 2009 was about 81000. Total attendance was 243,198. That would be roughly equal to about five and a half 3Arena gigs for one Croker gig and 3 Croker gigs is equal to seventeen nights in the 3Arena (I am taking the 3Arena capacity as 14,500).
    So it will almost certainly be Croker, probably in August as there are no gigs listed for then in the dates announced today. If you were a U2 fan in say Italy or Spain you would probably be a little annoyed that they are playing a lager venue just in Ireland (hence making it easier to get tickets) but U2 have always played more gigs in Ireland on any tour they do.

    Absolute waffle last time out Italy got 5 dates including 2 San Siro gigs and Spain got 5 also including 3 at the Nou Camp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,451 ✭✭✭Wrongway1985


    Interesting....The O2 in London have made this a ticketless event e.g. Ticket buyer must produce confirmation of purchase, I.D. & Card used to buy Tickets and must be present to ensure he and potential party can gain entry.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 5,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    Interesting....The O2 in London have made this a ticketless event e.g. Ticket buyer must produce confirmation of purchase, I.D. & Card used to buy Tickets and must be present to ensure he and potential party can gain entry.

    Interesting indeed.
    Reminds me when I bought tickets (on the presale) for the latest Buble gigs at the Point and I actually had to swipe my debit card in order to get in/get some kind of ticket in the venue.

    An attempt to "hit" touts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,451 ✭✭✭Wrongway1985


    Irish Aris wrote: »

    An attempt to "hit" touts?

    Defo although I think it may only apply to standing tickets even still they would be the majority and most appealing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    Messi19 wrote: »
    U2's first tour in a decade

    Eh?

    Bit of an amateur press release.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,993 ✭✭✭Trippie


    Just got 2 standing tickets for the first italian concert. 65 each, is reasonable enough I guess as I was expecting over 100


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭lukin


    Nonsense.

    The fact is that most people would prefer indoor shows, outdoor shows are ****e in comparison. No not everybody will be able to get a ticket but many people will. Anyone who doesn´t will just have to wait until the next time.
    Yeah but considering U2 only do a tour every five years then I don't think that will be much consolation to them.
    It´s not that unusual for demand for concert tickets to exceed supply you know. There have been plenty of gigs I wanted to go to but didn´t get tickets and I´d rather have it that way than have every gig I go to be in a big field.
    True but U2 rarely let it happen for their Irish gigs. On the last two tours they played three nights at Croker so almost a quarter of a million people got to see them. Those that didn't get tickets were definitely in the minority. I don't agree that outdoor gigs are not as good. If you are committed enough you will get up near the front and have a good view. At Slane in 2001 I managed to get up to the edge of the front pit and I enjoyed it every bit as much as any indoor gig.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭cathalj


    Trippie wrote:
    Just got 2 standing tickets for the first italian concert. 65 each, is reasonable enough I guess as I was expecting over 100


    Got two seated for Berlin .... had two standing but couldn't complete purchase.. German ticketmaster was a f##king nightmare ! ........ September seems a long way off !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭johnpatrick81


    Did ye just sign up to U2.com to get access today? I was considering it, but $50 seems alot. Basically a $25 premium on top of each ticket you get pre-sale access to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭psychozeb


    Got 2 standing tickets for Glasgow on the Saturday night,got them at 1 o'clock surprisingly. Will try for Friday night tickets again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Did ye just sign up to U2.com to get access today? I was considering it, but $50 seems alot. Basically a $25 premium on top of each ticket you get pre-sale access to.

    Its worth it if you want to get standing tickets .
    They are only around 70 euro plus 20 extra for the subscription.

    Standing is the best ticket in the house in my opinion ,especially indoors.
    I'd never sit at a gig again ,its ludicrous that the best seats cost 3 times standing.

    GA/standing tickets will be like gold dust in the general sale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭lambayire


    Interesting....The O2 in London have made this a ticketless event e.g. Ticket buyer must produce confirmation of purchase, I.D. & Card used to buy Tickets and must be present to ensure he and potential party can gain entry.

    Robbie Williams did the same thing for that "freebie" charity gig at the Dublin O2 back in 2012. It was a brilliant system and it worked a treat. It obviously took a few minutes extra to get in but there wasn't a tout in sight.

    Here's hoping U2 do that for the Dublin shows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭kennyu272


    I got two standing tickets for the first Amsterdam gig.Going to try for one of the London shows in the general sale on Monday.I still have my own presale code which i'm going to use for Dublin when its announced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭cathalj


    kennyu272 wrote:
    I got two standing tickets for the first Amsterdam gig.Going to try for one of the London shows in the general sale on Monday.I still have my own presale code which i'm going to use for Dublin when its announced.


    Nice one,..... how'd you get two codes ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭johnpatrick81


    Not sure if it has been discussed, but the setup according to the ticketing layouts in all the arenas so far relies on the in the round setup, with a stage at either end, and a long walkway going the length of the arena (apparently with a big video wall all the way above the stage). This would rule the 3Arena out of the equation would it not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭johnpatrick81


    Although I've just seen a seating chart for the Amsterdam gig and that appears to be similar to the 3Arena with only 3 tiers of seating. So maybe it is just a single stage with a long walkway (which still might be a problem in the 3Arena).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭kennyu272


    Not sure if it has been discussed, but the setup according to the ticketing layouts in all the arenas so far relies on the in the round setup, with a stage at either end, and a long walkway going the length of the arena (apparently with a big video wall all the way above the stage). This would rule the 3Arena out of the equation would it not?

    The Hydro in Glasgow is very similar to the 3Arena so I doubt it would be a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭kennyu272


    cathalj wrote: »
    Nice one,..... how'd you get two codes ?

    A friend used his code for Amsterdam so I can save my one for Dublin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭johnpatrick81


    Struck out on ALL European dates for GA.

    Guess I'm gonna have to stump up for pre-sale for the Dublin gigs:mad:

    Good lower tier seats for the O2 in London are £180 up FACE VALUE!:eek::confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭cathalj


    kennyu272 wrote:
    A friend used his code for Amsterdam so I can save my one for Dublin.


    I'm tempted to sign the wife up to get another code for the Dublin gigs.... even with the presale I reckon demand will be mental..... the idea of not seeing them here (I've seen every tour since 1985) doesn't bear thinking about!


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