*** Leaving Cert Higher Irish 2014 - Before and after discussion

Curious x

Anybody have any idea of whats likely to come up for honours irish lc paper?

JD244

Our teachers saying Dís and Colscaradh, I think. I clearly need more Gaeilge prep. She's new to the job and hoping their going to cycle through the syllabus. Essay's focused mainly on the culú and a good few topics linked in to it so emigration, politics, lives of young people today, education, even sport.

Curious x

Thanks... best of luck with the study

Curious x

Anybody any ideas on possible an triail question/ aiste titles??

bb1234567

For the aiste study social and youth problems, that covers drugs alchohol crime ,education system etc and then youre sorted

RedSeven7

JD244 wrote: »

Our teachers saying Dís and Colscaradh

Do you really think they'd put Dís and Colscaradh on the same paper? It's just that the themes are quite similar :cool: Most people are saying An Spailpín for the filíocht but how can any of us be sure really :P

However the author of Dís, Siobhán Ní Shuilleabháin, died in June 2013 according to this: http://www.dinglepost.com/post/54154587951/john-b-keane-said-dingle-peninsula-woman-was-best
so maybe Dís will be on the paper, as a tribute to her?

Curious x

Thanks.... Stresssss!! 😭

Mundy07

Thanks for all your help.
Do you know what is coming up on An Triail? Is a technical setup question a realistic choice? I'd imagine it would be a real bummer if it come up.

RedSeven7

Mundy07 wrote: »

Thanks for all your help.
Do you know what is coming up on An Triail? Is a technical setup question a realistic choice? I'd imagine it would be a real bummer if it come up.

Apparently so, I've heard a lot of people talking about it, and last year lots of people thought that either Dramatic Techniques or Role of Men in the Play would be up, and it was "An páirt a ghlacann Pádraig" ! So perhaps it'll be the techniques this year!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056962646&page=2

An Triail questions were being discussed on this thread around this time last year... and someone posted a sample answer on dramatic techniques!

Also, one of the ecdo sample questions is:
"Déan trácht ar an tragóid a léirítear sa dráma seo agus ar an gcaoi a gcuirtear an tragóid sin os ár gcomhair".
That could include dramatic techniques, so it might not be a direct question, but one in which the techniques can be included in the answer!

Go n-éirí leat

Mundy07

Thanks a million. I realty appreciate it.

RedSeven7

"gach duine" or "chuile duine" ?

I'm doing an Irish question, and I've literally been sitting here debating it for the last 5 minutes :pac:

Any opinions? Which do you prefer? :P

bb1234567

Chuile duine would be a higher standard of irish

gaeilgegrinds1

One is Connaught Irish, the other Munster. Both are standard according to the Caighdéan Oifigiúil.

Curious x

How long should the pros/filìocht questions be?

cferry3

Finding it really difficult to study for the Poems/Stories, and I'm someone who has to have things learned off, can't just make it up in the exam! What topics should on focus on like themes,imagery etc.

Curious x

Ye im just focusing on the heading in the books/ sample questions... im writing out a question now on Dìs. about the woman being unhappy in her marriage. Feels like theres just so much to do :-/

cferry3

Curious x wrote: »

Ye im just focusing on the heading in the books/ sample questions... im writing out a question now on Dìs. about the woman being unhappy in her marriage. Feels like theres just so much to do :-/

Like Dís for example, I'm learning the theme, emotions, man, woman, humour and relationship between them, do u think that's enough?

Curious x

Maybe learn abit on the author too... she died in june last year as somebody posted in this thread so they might ask about her as a tribute but other than that im just learning the same as you mentioned. Have u many essays learned?

cferry3

Curious x wrote: »

Maybe learn abit on the author too... she died in june last year as somebody posted in this thread so they might ask about her as a tribute but other than that im just learning the same as you mentioned. Have u many essays learned?

Have Recession, Problems in Ireland(emigration,politics,poverty etc.), Problems of Young People today, The Media and Poverty all kinda prepared but I still need to learn them, and I'm thinking of doing a scéal just in case nothing comes up in the Aiste, what topics are u doing?

aleatorio

For Spailpin Fanach, what would you say for the importance of logainmneacha in the poem? :eek:

bb1234567

Dont get TOO stressed out about irish poetry. Its only worth 5% and youll probably get atleast 2.5% if you even know the main gist of the poem. But yes learn logainmneacha.

accountname

Everyone on here seems to do An Triall for the options, anyone else do Toraiocht?

cferry3

bb1234567 wrote: »

Dont get TOO stressed out about irish poetry. Its only worth 5% and youll probably get atleast 2.5% if you even know the main gist of the poem. But yes learn logainmneacha.

I want/need a B1/A2 though!
Oral went really good so..

bb1234567

accountname wrote: »

Everyone on here seems to do An Triall for the options, anyone else do Toraiocht?

Doin extra poetry Q's

aleatorio

cferry3 wrote: »

I want/need a B1/A2 though!
Oral went really good so..

I'm in the same boat, was never planning on counting Irish but my Irish oral went swimmingly so I'm thinking it may be better to focus on Irish instead of English

aleatorio

bb1234567 wrote: »

Dont get TOO stressed out about irish poetry. Its only worth 5% and youll probably get atleast 2.5% if you even know the main gist of the poem. But yes learn logainmneacha.

I have no notes on logainmneacha, what should I say for it?

bb1234567

cferry3 wrote: »

Like Dís for example, I'm learning the theme, emotions, man, woman, humour and relationship between them, do u think that's enough?

Definitely. Not much else you could study for it!

aleatorio wrote: »

I have no notes on logainmneacha, what should I say for it?

Well just off the top of my head, caiseal comes from the old irish word for castle. Talk about that and how the language changed. Emm Cluain meala, means Honey field. There was a field with honey flowers and thats how it got its name. Carrack -Siure means rock on the river Suir. Thats all i can think of i havnt gone over the notes yet!! Sory i probably wasnt much help:pac:

cferry3

Seriously struggling with 'An Triail' haven't a notion what to study!

bb1234567

cferry3 wrote: »

Seriously struggling with 'An Triail' haven't a notion what to study!

Did your teacher do extra poetry with you or just an triall?

cferry3

bb1234567 wrote: »

Did your teacher do extra poetry with you or just an triall?

Just 'An Triail'

FatRat

aleatorio wrote: »

I have no notes on logainmneacha, what should I say for it?

This will be like 6 marks so only a few sentences. Literally all you needs to say is that all the logainmneacha in the poem show how he was required to travel all over the country just to do work. Since there's loads of place names it shows how much travelling he did and shows how tough his work was.

aleatorio

FatRat wrote: »

This will be like 6 marks so only a few sentences. Literally all you needs to say is that all the logainmneacha in the poem show how he was required to travel all over the country just to do work. Since there's loads of place names it shows how much travelling he did and shows how tough his work was.

Ok that's grand I just couldn't think of a reason why they'd be significant :pac:
Thanks

RedSeven7

aleatorio wrote: »

I have no notes on logainmneacha, what should I say for it?

There's a paragraph on logainmneacha in Fiúntas:

Baintear úsáid as raidhse (abundance) logainmneacha san amhrán [sa dán], logainmneacha atá i dTiobraid Árann, i gCill Chainnigh agus i bPort Láirge. Tá sé soiléir gur thug na spailpíní a n-aghaidh ar na trí chontae seo mar go raibh fostaíocht le fáil iontu, go háirithe i nGleann Órga Thiobraid Árann.

Bhíodh na margaí híreála ar siúl go tráthrialta chomh maith i gCluain Meala agus i mbaile Thiobraid Árann.

"Ba mhinic mo thriall go Cluain gheal Meala
's as sin go Tiobraid Árann"

Dhéanadh an spailpín áirithe seo an-chuid oibre i gCarraig na Siúire, i gCallainn, i gCaiseal agus i nDurlas. Tugann na logainmneacha seo údaracht (authenticity) agus cúlra fírinneach stairiúil don amhrán.

It's nothing too brilliant really but at least the grammar is right :P

bb1234567

RedSeven7 wrote: »

There's a paragraph on logainmneacha in Fiúntas:



It's nothing too brilliant really but at least the grammar is right :P

Its worth 6 marks nothing spectacular needed

RedSeven7

bb1234567 wrote: »

Its worth 6 marks nothing spectacular needed

How do you know that, was there a sample question on logainmneacha?

cferry3

What was the 'An Triail' mock question on exam craft, we had the tecníocht drámata, wouldn't have had a clue how to answer that only for the teacher gave us a sample essay before the mock and told us it was coming up!

bb1234567

RedSeven7 wrote: »

How do you know that, was there a sample question on logainmneacha?

Because my teacher, clare greally in the insitiute said that it would never be worth more than 6 marks. Theres just not enough to write about for a 15 marker

JDOC1996

A thig ná tit orm guys?

JDOC1996

And the aiste? I've only properly learned technology, the Irish language and the recession/immigration.

PatrickP123

Does anyone have any good essays on cyber bullying for higher level Irish? Maybe even some notes or bullet points etc. Looking for a high-standard but any essay will be appreciated! Thanks!

SSMorg

JDOC1996 wrote: »

A thig ná tit orm guys?

I think it is the easiest, you just need a page & half, really just to say it was a dirbheathaisneis , just need to know first 8 chapter, his young life, just need to be able to write about his young life, fun they had, traditional life, humour in the book. Mention a few things that happened stories about "cat agus piscin" etc. Need to know he started school in 1947 & at 1958 he was fifteen & that was summer working, as some past questions ask what occurred in 1958 etc.

Catwoman101

Do Meain Cumarsaide and Daoine Oga. Don't waste your time with anything else!

swimmom

bb1234567 wrote: »

Its worth 6 marks nothing spectacular needed

What would be most likely as a 15 mark question in An Spailpin?

I obviously missed something but where was the humour in Dis?

Any point studying poetry and prose asked in last 2 years?

swimmom

Gafa anyone?

PatrickP123

Catwoman101 wrote: »

Do Meain Cumarsaide and Daoine Oga. Don't waste your time with anything else!

I'm doing them as well, it's just that cyber bullying was a huge topic back in November due to all of the suicides. Meain Cumarsaide and Daoine Oga both tie into cyber bullying but I want to have an in-depth one on cyber bullying just in case. Thanks for your advice, though

bb1234567

swimmom wrote: »

What would be most likely as a 15 mark question in An Spailpin?

I obviously missed something but where was the humour in Dis?

Any point studying poetry and prose asked in last 2 years?

Spailpin fanach question might be the meadaracht of the dan or general about the life of the farm labourer and dis lol umm I didnt see humour either but I guess its 'funny' how she told lies to the survey girl to get a rise out of her hub because he has no interest in her

cferry3

Catwoman101 wrote: »

Do Meain Cumarsaide and Daoine Oga. Don't waste your time with anything else!

How can you be so sure there coming up? Would love it if they do!

Mundy07

What's your opinion or have your teachers given an opinion on a student writing their Irish exams exclusively in pencil?
GRMA

Catwoman101

Yes add the death due to "Necknominations" etc... Am because I'm a repeat LC student and I have done my research :-) hoping to get an A this year.... Also what pros are you guys studying?

Catwoman101

JDOC1996 wrote: »

A thig ná tit orm guys?

Frith an ghrinn!

cferry3

Catwoman101 wrote: »

Yes add the death due to "Necknominations" etc... Am because I'm a repeat LC student and I have done my research :-) hoping to get an A this year.... Also what pros are you guys studying?

I'm a repeat too and looking for a B1/A2, the oral went really good so I'm optimistic! So just to clarify you are only studying Daoine Óga and Meain Cumarsaide for the Aiste?
I'm studying Dís and Cacá Milis for the Pros!