Way to go Sinn Fein

Barely There

dark crystal wrote: »

Aw, build a bridge and get over the bitterness. It's clearly eating you up inside.

Embrace the peace and let go of the anger. Honestly, you'll feel so much better for it.

Neither angry nor bitter - why should I be?

Feel great on the inside too.

Thanks for your concern though.

Banjo String

Barely There wrote: »

Things must have been so much simplier for SF/IRA when they could just bundle people into the boots of cars, bring them up the mountains and shoot them in the head.

What in under sweet fcuk has that got to do with anything I just posted

Take your time now.

Gazzmonkey

Banjo String wrote: »

With his (continued) posting style, he wont be around much longer. "It's a statistical certainty"

You smell a troll too?

Banjo String

Gazzmonkey wrote: »

You smell a troll too?

Trolls are easily spotted. I copped who I was dealing with almost immediately, and he knows it.

William F

bumper234 wrote: »

Gilmore to announce his resignation at 4 today?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0526/619609-reshuffle/

Gilmore was once in Official Sinn Fein or the Official IRA? I can't remember.

Bannasidhe

The Indo is singing from a radically different hymn sheet this week. I wonder why???

If the Government hopes to stem the Sinn Fein surge before the next general election it will have to do more than make snide jibes about Gerry Adams' alleged IRA membership in the Dail....

...And, while 34pc of voters think Adams should be replaced, even more think both Enda Kenny and Eamon Gilmore should go – so, really, they're in no position to judge.

Even the arrest of Adams for questioning in connection with the notorious Jean McConville murder a couple of weeks before the election didn't stem the tide of new support.

Just 23pc of voters said they were influenced by the arrest but, significantly, Sinn Fein supporters were most influenced, with 38pc of them saying that their anger at his treatment encouraged them to go out and vote.

So, the message is clear. Voters are well aware of Adams' background but they either don't care or don't see it as relevant in domestic politics. It's time that the rest of the political establishment accepted that.

While Kenny and his frontbench chums have been busy carping on about the IRA, high-profile members of Sinn Fein have spent their time much more effectively, eviscerating the Government at every opportunity.

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/stunned-coalition-gets-rude-awakening-on-risk-of-ignoring-threat-of-sinn-fein-30304423.html

bumper234

William F wrote: »

Gilmore was once in Official Sinn Fein or the Official IRA? I can't remember.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eamon_Gilmore

he joined the UCG Republican Club, which was affiliated to Official Sinn Féin, subsequently "Sinn Féin the Workers' Party" and later renamed the Workers' Party. In recent years he was accused of being evasive on the subject and trying to play down that he had joined the Official Republican Movement, stating that the party was in the process of becoming the Workers' Party at that time, I can't recall exactly the dates.[7] [8] Using both names, the Workers' Party's links with the proscribed paramilitary organisation the Official Irish Republican Army throughout the 1970s is well established.[9]

Bannasidhe

William F wrote: »

Gilmore was once in Official Sinn Fein or the Official IRA? I can't remember.

Sinn Fein - The Worker's Party aka 'The Stickies' who morphed into Democratic Left who merged with LP and effectively gained control of the party.

Lynch was also a member and I think Rabbitte and Howlin as well but open to correction on that.

Lot of internal conflict within the LP between the Stickies and old time Labour like Burton.

William F

bumper234 wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eamon_Gilmore

He was actually an IRA member?

Banjo String

Bannasidhe wrote: »

The Indo is singing from a radically different hymn sheet this week. I wonder why???

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/stunned-coalition-gets-rude-awakening-on-risk-of-ignoring-threat-of-sinn-fein-30304423.html

Jeez, absolutely shameless.

bumper234

William F wrote: »

He was actually an IRA member?

Is that what it says?

Bannasidhe

William F wrote: »

He was actually an IRA member?

Let's wait and see if the PNSI ask him to pop in for a chat as apparently that is the benchmark for determining membership.

William F

bumper234 wrote: »

Is that what it says?

You don't seem to distinguish between IRA or Sinn Fein

bumper234

William F wrote: »

You don't seem to distinguish between IRA or Sinn Fein

It doesn't bother me either way, Have never voted for the man or his party.

tayto lover

Barely There wrote: »

So was blowing up a couple of kids on a boat, or torturing and murdering a young mother.

I have to laugh at the Shinner supporters trying to portray themselves as the people who care so much about others.

This post is so stupid it gets a silly response :eek::eek:

stout_drinker

the only thing which can prevent a SF goverment now is if FF and FG merge to form a single party , thats not a slight against SF btw

Iwasfrozen

stout_drinker wrote: »

the only thing which can prevent a SF goverment now is if FF and FG merge to form a single party , thats not a slight against SF btw

What is that based on? SF didn't top the polls on Friday.

Santa Cruz

William F wrote: »

Gilmore was once in Official Sinn Fein or the Official IRA? I can't remember.

Why post that ****e when a simple google search would give you the facts?
Lay off the Dutch Gold if it's having that effect on your memory

Banjo String

Santa Cruz wrote: »

Why post that ****e when a simple google search would give you the facts?
Lay off the Dutch Gold if it's having that effect on your memory

In fairness a lot of posters here cannot distinguish the difference in Sinn Fein and the IRA.

(when it suits them)

humanji

Barely There will be barely here from now on. I'm sure there's a better joke to be made, but it's Monday and I don't have it in me.

Santa Cruz

Barely There wrote: »

Things must have been so much simplier for SF/IRA when they could just bundle people into the boots of cars, bring them up the mountains and shoot them in the head.

Keep living in the past. It's more comfortable there. SF are part of the political system now and will have to perform or else they will get the usual treatment from the electorate. They have the opportunity to show how things can be done different in local government and let people judge them on that.

tayto lover

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

This kind of scutter that the shinners are coming out reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9ALqhgVK9M

Fianna Fail won the election yesterday. When you take FF, and FG and assorted centre right independents seats from yesterday, its clear that the majority of the country are still centre-right. That is under the worst possible conditions. As conditions improve, the protest vote will move back to the traditional parties and SF can continue to shout on the sidelines with the other scruffy independents up the back.

Many voters who have given them the chance locally will be watching their performance and if they continue to progress you could see them get even more votes in a General Election. Never say never in politics or sport. It would be very foolish.

tayto lover

As I thought Gilmour is gone. He will shortly be followed by Rabbitte, Quin, Costello and a few more who put themselves before the party and its aims and objectives.
Good riddance.

Lastlight.

Santa Cruz wrote: »

Keep living in the past. It's more comfortable there. SF are part of the political system now and will have to perform or else they will get the usual treatment from the electorate. They have the opportunity to show how things can be done different in local government and let people judge them on that.

Sinn Fein have never proven they can be an effective government at all. They are in a mandatory coalition in Northern Ireland. They don't have to take all the responsibility when it comes to policies or political decisions.

If Sinn Fein got into power in the Irish Republic, give it 4-5 months and people will be absolutely hating it and in uproar about how incompetent they will be, especially when it comes to running the economy which leaves a lot to be desired.

Karl Stein

stout_drinker wrote: »

if FF and FG merge to form a single party

Everyone outside FF/FG should start speaking of them as the same party any time they are near a microphone or camera. Bring the FF/FG tag-team idea alive in the public consciousness especially with younger voters.

William F

Lastlight. wrote: »

If Sinn Fein got into power in the Irish Republic, give it 4-5 months and people will be absolutely hating it and in uproar about how incompetent they will be, especially when it comes to running the economy which leaves a lot to be desired.

Funny you say that. A lot of voters seem more interested giving FF a second throw of the dice rather than voting Sinn Fein.

It says a lot about the public's imagination.

Bannasidhe

tayto lover wrote: »

Many voters who have given them the chance locally will be watching their performance and if they continue to progress you could see them get even more votes in a General Election. Never say never in politics or sport. It would be very foolish.

Exactly.

The ball in in SF's court now.

Can they continue to expand and consolidate their grass roots base and be seen to be a viable alternative government?

If they can - and only time will tell - than I can see them seriously targeting the GE after the next one, which I think will be sooner than 1916 if the pull-out brigade win the current internal debate in the LP.

I hope that SF don't jump the gun and try and win the next GE in just for the symbolism of being in power in 1916.

Best result for SF in political terms - but absolute disaster for the country -would be an FF government - however it is possible that FG/FF will ally to form a government with SF in vocal opposition. Even that would be progress as it would signal the end of Civil War politics...just 92 years after the war itself ended (:rolleyes:)

Lastlight.

William F wrote: »

Funny you say that. A lot of voters seem more interested giving FF a second throw of the dice rather than voting Sinn Fein.

It says a lot about the public's imagination.

FF will rise again, no doubt about that. Can see them winning the next election.

uch

Lastlight. wrote: »

FF will rise again, no doubt about that. Can see them winning the next election.

Sadly

LordSutch

Banjo String wrote: »

Do you hold the royal family responsible for bloody Sunday?

No of course I dont, and why would I :rolleyes:
but I do hold the PIRA 100% responsible for Bloody Friday.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Friday_%281972%29