Way to go Sinn Fein

Aongus Von Bismarck

Busted Flat. wrote: »

The begrudger's will just have to take their beating and move on. Or else stay in the station and talk about the past. These elections have shown up one thing the electorate have stopped listening to bull$hit. SF are on the rise for years, only fools listen to black propaganda.

This kind of scutter that the shinners are coming out reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9ALqhgVK9M

Fianna Fail won the election yesterday. When you take FF, and FG and assorted centre right independents seats from yesterday, its clear that the majority of the country are still centre-right. That is under the worst possible conditions. As conditions improve, the protest vote will move back to the traditional parties and SF can continue to shout on the sidelines with the other scruffy independents up the back.

Dan_Solo

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

As conditions improve

Nice crystal ball. Did you buy it at the party office souvenir shop?

davycc

jank wrote: »

Well this overlooks the fact that we may not have had the war we did if it were not for Sinn Fein's murderous campaign. John Hume is the real hero of the north in my opinion.

What muderous campaign have Sinn Fein ever embarked upon ?
Id like some evidence to prove your bitter but clueless point too thanks:rolleyes:

Dan_Solo

Barely There wrote: »

It's why the Shinners got 10% of the first pref vote in the last GE, but only 8% of the seats - and it's not going to change in the future;)

How's the 23% holding up btw?:pac::pac:

Is that tea leaves or tarot cards you use to tell the future?
Best SF election results ever, by some margin. Run out of Kleenex yet?

Bannasidhe

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

This kind of scutter that the shinners are coming out reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9ALqhgVK9M

Fianna Fail won the election yesterday. When you take FF, and FG and assorted centre right independents seats from yesterday, its clear that the majority of the country are still centre-right. That is under the worst possible conditions. As conditions improve, the protest vote will move back to the traditional parties and SF can continue to shout on the sidelines with the other scruffy independents up the back.

Do you mean those 'scruffy' independents who exposed the dodgy doings in the AGS which the suited and booted government tried to hush up?

DubVelo

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Fianna Fail won the election yesterday. When you take FF, and FG and assorted centre right independents seats from yesterday, its clear that the majority of the country are still centre-right. That is under the worst possible conditions. As conditions improve, the protest vote will move back to the traditional parties and SF can continue to shout on the sidelines with the other scruffy independents up the back.

It'll take a pretty fair wind for conditions to improve. It certainly won't be as a result of policy.

timtime

great to see the only Irish party in the election.doin well, fair play SF

Jester252

Bannasidhe wrote: »

The important questions are:

How many councils now have an SF platform which can be built upon?

Depends if SF wants to get in bed with FF or FG even if they do in independents hold more power than SF.

Just some examples.

Carlow County Council

Government parties hold 8 seats, FF hold 5 seats and SF hold 3 seats. Even if FF and SF hop into bed together, it's the two independents seats that will sway the balance of power.

Cavan County Council

FG has 7, FF has 7, SF has 4. SF holds the balance of power, but there is a chance that FG and FF will join, smothering SF.

Even in LC with SF friendly parties such as the AAA and Workers party, the right still have more members.

How many councils have SF as the main opposition party?

Not going to be know until after the election but

2nd biggest party (number of seats)

FF in 3.333 local councils

FG in 7.666 local councils

Ind in 6.666 local councils

SF in 1.333 local councils

How many councils have other left wing councillors who may be able to make common cause with SF?

4 (6) The number in brackets include local councils where there is a SF friendly party but the combined numbers are just too low to make any difference.

Dan_Solo

Jester252 wrote: »

Depends if SF wants to get in bed with FF or FG even if they do in independents hold more power than SF.

Senseless. "Independents" aren't a party.

Jester252

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Senseless. "Independents" aren't a party.

True but the guy without a party holds more power in the future make up of local councils than the guy in SF.

Barely There

timtime wrote: »

great to see the only Irish party in the election.doin well, fair play SF

Nope.


Too easy.

Dan_Solo

Jester252 wrote: »

True but the guy without a party holds more power in the future make up of local councils than the guy in SF.

You are still pretending "independents" is a party who will always vote in unison.
By their definition (and yes, I know a few are really FF or FG in sheep's clothing) cannot be relied on to do so.

Busted Flat.

TheJournal.ie ‏@thejournal_ie 43s
BREAKING: Labour Party to release statement at 4pm at Iveagh House as speculation mounts that Eamon Gilmore will resign

Independent.ie ‏@Independent_ie 3m
Eamon Gilmore to resign at 4pm. More to follow. #Labour

Jester252

Dan_Solo wrote: »

You are still pretending "independents" is a party who will always vote in unison.
By their definition (and yes, I know a few are really FF or FG in sheep's clothing) cannot be relied on to do so.

How am I still pretending? When did I even pretend?

All you doing is point out why independents are more influence than SF regardless of numbers. They can sway, that is why the get a boost for political power.

Nothing is stopping the independent from joining together to have an independent majority, however unlikely.

Thus support my argument for SF being the 4th biggest political power in the country.

There is nothing more foolish than underestimating the power than an independent has.

davycc

I Heart Internet wrote: »

I'm glad they've managed to shake off that whole unseemly incident where their party leader was arrested for ordering the murder of a woman and the disappearance of her body.

I'm glad that's all been cleared up. That's it now. Plain sailing for Sinn Fein from here on in. No more akwardness about dead people.

They obviously have feck all evidence despite them claiming it was a real arrest with new evidence and not a politically motivated arrest.

You can bet you ass they would love to lock him up for a few years so why didnt they?;)

Because their "evidence" is all biased heresay and thankfully we dont have Bermingham-6 incarriages of justice happening anymore or internment:o

Barely There

Jester252 wrote: »

Depends if SF wants to get in bed with FF or FG even if they do in independents hold more power than SF.

Just some examples.

Carlow County Council

Government parties hold 8 seats, FF hold 5 seats and SF hold 3 seats. Even if FF and SF hop into bed together, it's the two independents seats that will sway the balance of power.

Cavan County Council

FG has 7, FF has 7, SF has 4. SF holds the balance of power, but there is a chance that FG and FF will join, smothering SF.

Even in LC with SF friendly parties such as the AAA and Workers party, the right still have more members.



Not going to be know until after the election but

2nd biggest party (number of seats)

FF in 3.333 local councils

FG in 7.666 local councils

Ind in 6.666 local councils

SF in 1.333 local councils



4 (6) The number in brackets include local councils where there is a SF friendly party but the combined numbers are just too low to make any difference.

Away with all your 'facts' and 'figures'.

You can use facts and figures to prove anything.

Don't you understand?
Sinn Fein have won a glorious victory and the last thing this thread needs is someone posting up the truth.

Gerry for Taoiseach!
Martin for President!
and Mary Lou to head up the Department of Bondholder-burning!

Forward comrades.
Forward to a brighter new dawn.

Nodin

Barely There wrote: »

Away with all (......)new dawn.

You seem to be getting a bit worked up there, oul flower.

Banjo String

Busted Flat. wrote: »

TheJournal.ie ‏@thejournal_ie 43s
BREAKING: Labour Party to release statement at 4pm at Iveagh House as speculation mounts that Eamon Gilmore will resign

Independent.ie ‏@Independent_ie 3m
Eamon Gilmore to resign at 4pm. More to follow. #Labour

Labour might very well walk away.

Wait and see......

timtime

Barely There wrote: »

Nope.


Too easy.

sorry i forgot, Eirigi too

Bannasidhe

Barely There wrote: »

Away with all your 'facts' and 'figures'.

You can use facts and figures to prove anything.

Don't you understand?
Sinn Fein have won a glorious victory and the last thing this thread needs is someone posting up the truth.

Gerry for Taoiseach!
Martin for President!
and Mary Lou to head up the Department of Bondholder-burning!

Forward comrades.
Forward to a brighter new dawn.

Do you actually have anything of worth to contribute beyond shouting 'Jean McConville' and playground type jeers?

I don't mind either way but if you haven't I'd like to know so I can skip over your posts.

Barely There

Banjo String wrote: »

Labour might very well walk away.

Wait and see......

They're itchin to go back to the polls I'd imagine:rolleyes:

Banjo String

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Do you actually have anything of worth to contribute beyond shouting 'Jean McConville' and playground type jeers?

I don't mind either way but if you haven't I'd like to know so I can skip over your posts.

With his (continued) posting style, he wont be around much longer. "It's a statistical certainty"

Bannasidhe

Busted Flat. wrote: »

TheJournal.ie ‏@thejournal_ie 43s
BREAKING: Labour Party to release statement at 4pm at Iveagh House as speculation mounts that Eamon Gilmore will resign

Independent.ie ‏@Independent_ie 3m
Eamon Gilmore to resign at 4pm. More to follow. #Labour

As a friend of mine just said 'Gilmore to fall on his sword after cutting Labour to ribbons with it.'

bumper234

Gilmore to announce his resignation at 4 today?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0526/619609-reshuffle/

RTÉ News understands leader of the Labour Party Eamon Gilmore is to resign from his position.

The Tánaiste is presently involved in discussions with his Cabinet colleagues and junior ministers but a statement confirming his resignation is expected at 4pm.

Jester252

bumper234 wrote: »

Gilmore to announce his resignation at 4 today?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0526/619609-reshuffle/

Gilmore is walking before two different votes of no confidence force him out. Hope Joan "The Moan" Burton doesn't take over.

Barely There

Banjo String wrote: »

With his (continued) posting style, he wont be around much longer.

Things must have been so much simplier for SF/IRA when they could just bundle people into the boots of cars, bring them up the mountains and shoot them in the head.

dark crystal

Barely There wrote: »

Things must have been so much simplier for SF/IRA when they could just bundle people into the boots of cars, bring them up the mountains and shoot them in the head.

Aw, build a bridge and get over the bitterness. It's clearly eating you up inside.

Embrace the peace and let go of the anger. Honestly, you'll feel so much better for it.

Bannasidhe

Barely There wrote: »

Things must have been so much simplier for SF/IRA when they could just bundle people into the boots of cars, bring them up the mountains and shoot them in the head.

Well, that answered my question.

You obviously are unable to engage in an adult discussion and playground jeers are the full extent of your debating abilities.

Bye Now.

Reformed Character

Barely There wrote: »

Things must have been so much simplier for SF/IRA when they could just bundle people into the boots of cars, bring them up the mountains and shoot them in the head.

Sweet Jesus , I am implacably opposed to SF , but even that one is beyond me.

bumper234

Barely There wrote: »

Things must have been so much simplier for SF/IRA when they could just bundle people into the boots of cars, bring them up the mountains and shoot them in the head.

I'm actually embarrassed for you