Way to go Sinn Fein

mickydoomsux

Reekwind wrote: »

1) You're bitter. Get over it.

"Bitter" about what exactly?

Am i "bitter" in the way that some other clown here earlier described me as "arrogant" because i won't join in on the uniformed wailing and gnashing of teeth about emigration?

goat2

downonthefarm wrote: »

Is Mary Lou married?

i dont think so,
but she is brilliant speaker, and would make a great leader,

Barely There

downonthefarm wrote: »

Is Mary Lou married?

Doubtful.

That face, that voice, those political views.

tomwaterford

Barely There wrote: »

Having Gerry Adams as leader.


He's great value for the rest of us in fairness.

yes...because he is such a spectacular failure and has presided over a collapse in there vote share:rolleyes::rolleyes:

if this is the only issue you have with there policies....how would you stand over any of the other shysters at the head of the other parties

FG-half them don't want Kenny
FF- martin....senior cabinet member for the economic ruin of Ireland
LP-Gilmore...well I doubt he'll be there at next election:pac:

downonthefarm

Barely There wrote: »

Doubtful.

That face, that voice, those political views.

I still would though

mickydoomsux

tomwaterford wrote: »

but to suggest as you have that no one is leaving due to no oppurtunities is wrong....ive a lot of family members and friends emigrated...some are gone for 4+ years at this stage
you are naïve in the extreme if you don't think it is happening...do you think people my age are suddently interested in travelling on a scale not seen before

HINT: there aren't any jobs for young people...who wants to sit around all day and do nothing...no one the only ones who are...are those who cant afford to emigrate....I know this as so many of my friends have sold cars everything to get money together for deposit on bedsits in London etc....the amount going over sleeping on couches/sleeping bags on floors till they get set up would surprise you

how do you not know this is happening??

I never denied it was happening. I said it was a tiny minority who are actually being forced abroad for work.

It's being blown out of all proportion and/or deliberately misinterpreted to give people something to whinge about and give the opposition another unquantifiable stick to beat the government with.

NipNip

Barely There wrote: »

Doubtful.

That face, that voice, those political views.

She has two daughters as far as I know.

tayto lover

mickydoomsux wrote: »

"Bitter" about what exactly?

Am i "bitter" in the way that some other clown here earlier described me as "arrogant" because i won't join in on the uniformed wailing and gnashing of teeth about emigration?

You also seem very angry about the elections.
Don't let things get you down. Nothing is worth that.

Smidge

Barely There wrote: »

Doubtful.

That face, that voice, those political views.

She has a spouse/husband.
Also, what's with the personal digs at the woman?

Barely There

tomwaterford wrote: »

yes...because he is such a spectacular failure and has presided over a collapse in there vote share:rolleyes::rolleyes:

c:

Gerry's great.

Really hope the Shinners keep him on as leader for years and years

mickydoomsux

tayto lover wrote: »

You also seem very angry about the elections.
Don't let things get you down. Nothing is worth that.

Do i?

Tell me how else i feel.

Inner City Hedgehog

Barely There wrote: »

Having Gerry Adams as leader.


He's great value for the rest of us in fairness.

He's the most popular and respected leader of any political party on this island, and though the likes of you and the O'Reilly/O'Brien media may delude yourself into believing he's a liability, all evidence shows that he's a significant electoral asset to Sinn Fein.

Banjo String

Barely There wrote: »

Gerry's great.

Really hope the Shinners keep him on as leader for years and years

Well, they've more than doubled their support in less than 3 years since the last election.....


Me too.

tayto lover

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Do i?

Tell me how else i feel.

Sad and sorrowful now but things will get better.:)

Nodin

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Do i?

Tell me how else i feel.

Angry, by the looks of it. Definitely irritated.

tomwaterford

mickydoomsux wrote: »

I never denied it was happening. I said it was a tiny minority who are actually being forced abroad for work.

It's being blown out of all proportion and/or deliberately misinterpreted to give people something to whinge about and give the opposition another unquantifiable stick to beat the government with.

it is far from a tiny minority...literally 70%+ I went to school with are gone...most rest are either farmers or working in Dublin...after 5+ years of ruin....most who aren't gone cant afford to scrape enough for a deposit for bedsit in London...I know two lads headed over two weeks ago sleeping in sleeping bags on the floor of the cousins flat...till they get set up/get there cars sold here

there is nothing for people my age atal around here anyway

goat2

Smidge wrote: »

She has a spouse/husband.
Also, what's with the personal digs at the woman?

sorry about the misinformation,
she is my favourite person in politics, love her speaking, debating, very brilliant person, would make a great leader whether it be for a party or tiosach

DubVelo

tomwaterford wrote: »

these are the same policies that are costed by the dept of finance...(same as all other polititical budget proposals...but because there SF they must be economically illiterate:rolleyes::rolleyes:)
and also the not too unreasonable proposal that tds only get the avg industrial wage (this may indeed be why other tds go out of there way to critize SF)

Ah! TDs salaries, funny you should mention because from the SF website:

the capping of public sector salaries at €100,000, increases of 10% in both Capital Gains and Capital Acquisitions taxes, and a cut in the salaries of government Ministers, TD's and Senators.

Cutting TDs salaries to an average wage would win my vote but the website specifies a public sector cap (there'll be riots, lol) and a non-specific cap in government salaries. How much enthusiasm will there be for that once their bums are sitting in the Dail?

Smidge

goat2 wrote: »

sorry about the misinformation,
she is my favourite person in politics, love her speaking, debating, very brilliant person, would make a great leader whether it be for a party or tiosach

I had posted that for Barely There as he took a personal pop at her

tomwaterford

goat2 wrote: »

sorry about the misinformation,
she is my favourite person in politics, love her speaking, debating, very brilliant person, would make a great leader whether it be for a party or tiosach

I seen her give a speech at an easter commeration before...good speech...was surprised how short she is in real life....seems a genuine person in her beliefs:)

Barely There

goat2 wrote: »

sorry about the misinformation,
she is my favourite person in politics, love her speaking, debating, very brilliant person, would make a great leader whether it be for a party or tiosach

Funniest post ever.

goat2

tomwaterford wrote: »

it is far from a tiny minority...literally 70%+ I went to school with are gone...most rest are either farmers or working in Dublin...after 5+ years of ruin....most who aren't gone cant afford to scrape enough for a deposit for bedsit in London...I know two lads headed over two weeks ago sleeping in sleeping bags on the floor of the cousins flat...till they get set up/get there cars sold here

there is nothing for people my age atal around here anyway

you dont have to cross the channel to find people homeless, with rent prices gone through the roof in this country there are a lot of homeless people and all this happened in the past two yrs, what are the present government doing for them, not a thing, we sent funds abroad to help others, but the saying goes,
look after your own first, it is not happening.
also the banks are not lending, these same banks that we have shored up, one of my children was turned down for a mortgage, yet she has a full time job and was turned away,
she has had to ask family to help her put money together that she will pay back, at least for her there will not be interest on it, but for the ones who helped her, their nest egg is tied up for a while, so lets hope they dont have need for it for a fair while

Banjo String

Barely There wrote: »

Funniest post ever.

Eating chocolate cake for breakfast was a big hit in fairness. Ya mad thing.

tomwaterford

DubVelo wrote: »

Ah! TDs salaries, funny you should mention because from the SF website:



Cutting TDs salaries to an average wage would win my vote but the website specifies a public sector cap (there'll be riots, lol) and a non-specific cap in government salaries. How much enthusiasm will there be for that once their bums are sitting in the Dail?

you are aware they like just take home the AIW and the rest geos to the party...so in effect with the governments refusal to cut all tds wages to the AIW they are effectively funding SF...I wonder deos the irony get to Gilmore tonight:pac::pac:

Shady Tady

Sinn Fein have by and large failed to collect the large amounts of voters who have gone to independents on this occasion, many just couldn't bear to vote for Adams and his parties recent past, the mistake they made is keeping Adams, it's actually a real missed opportunity for Sinn Fein!

Reekwind

mickydoomsux wrote: »

"Bitter" about what exactly?

I can't say why exactly, I don't know you. But you do come across as exceptionally bitter. That's the only (semi-charitable) reason that I can think of for your wilful ignorance.

To deny that the annual emigration of Irish nationals has almost quadrupled between 2008 and 2013 (from 13k to 51k) is nothing short of either deliberate blindness or obtuse contrarianism. To deny that this increase is related to the economic crisis is just stupidity. To suggest that it's just "whinging" on the part of those forced abroad by lack of work is the height of bitterness.

Karl Stein

Barely There wrote: »

Doubtful.

That face, that voice, those political views.

If you were half the man she is you'd be twice the man you are.

goat2

Barely There wrote: »

Funniest post ever.

why

mickydoomsux

goat2 wrote: »

what are the present government doing for them, not a thing,

Ahem.

Barely There

goat2 wrote: »

why

You sound like a lovesick teenager.