Lamela - Our record signing

Hatch99

I think he deserves a thread all to himself seeing as he's the most expensive player our beloved club has ever bought.

What do you think so far? He must have talent somewhere in his locker, or does he
Baldini thinks he's the business.
Totti quoted as saying how good he felt he was.
Someone on here quoted Maradona as saying how good he felt he was.
Rated very highly in Argentina apparently.

But yet we haven't seen any of it. Let's be honest, if you were to rate him out of 10 since he signed, he'd be a 3 or 4. I'm not having a go at him, because he's young, hardly has a word of English and it's been a completely different culture that he's moved in to, but you'd have thought we'd have seen glimpses of 'magic' but we haven't. He's played plenty of Europa minutes and had chances in the league too, but I have seen very little to make me feel confident that he will explode and become a start like we all want.

What do you all think, a dud or a star in the making...

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

He looks like a very good player from what I've seen, certainly technically very good anyway. For some reason it just really hasn't happened for him so far, and I'd be surprised if he doesn't come good eventually. Would easily rather him to Townsend, Chadli or Sigurdsson on the wing.

Leinstersqspur

At 21 he's still very young and the premier league is very different to the Argentinian League and Serie A. Much more physical than he would be used to. At lot of young foreign players take a while to come to terms with (same could be said for Cristian Eriksen). Add to this the language barrier.

Look at Ronaldo, he had a half decent season at Sporting and United snapped him up for €15m, that was ten years ago and it took a few seasons before people realised how good he could be. Lamela scored 15 goals in Serie A last season, he obviously has bags of talent. Ardilles waxes lyrical about him too.

I'd have plenty of reason to believe that this young lad will be an outstanding player for us, just maybe not this season.

GT_TDI_150

Maradona, the man who claimed Jonas Guttierez was the first name on his argentina team sheets ... :rolleyes:

Hatch99

Leinstersqspur wrote: »

At 21 he's still very young and the premier league is very different to the Argentinian League and Serie A. Much more physical than he would be used to. At lot of young foreign players take a while to come to terms with (same could be said for Cristian Eriksen). Add to this the language barrier.

Look at Ronaldo, he had a half decent season at Sporting and United snapped him up for €15m, that was ten years ago and it took a few seasons before people realised how good he could be. Lamela scored 15 goals in Serie A last season, he obviously has bags of talent. Ardilles waxes lyrical about him too.

I'd have plenty of reason to believe that this young lad will be an outstanding player for us, just maybe not this season.

Spot on, hopefully I look back over this thread and say what was I ever worried about

White Heart Loon

He'll come good, a project for next year, give him time to settle. Reminds me a lot of the young CR when he first signed for Utd.

tippspur

Rumours of him going out on loan in January are not true thank God,I thought he looked really good when he came on the last day,I would like to see him get a good run in the team to get him settled in cos he has great potential.

Leinstersqspur

Picture of Lamela training alone on the WHL pitch after the WBA game. Hungry.

SuprSi

I'm waiting for him to click. There are signs that he could blossom, but so far not enough to warrant a £20m fee let alone £30m.

2nd Row Donkey

Has he played 2 consecutive games yet? Don't think he has. Needs a run of games before he can be properly judged but that could be preseason next summer before he gets that.

irishmover

He looked very good when he came on against Stoke.

Has had very little game time so far this season to really allow proper judgement. Very very disappointed with how his career at the club has started so far.

On the otherside out of all of our new signings the biggest let down for me has been Eriksen. He has been pretty woeful up until now with some minor glimpses of the player we seen trash Man United with Ajax. Don't know what's wrong with him....

Emoran

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

Has he played 2 consecutive games yet? Don't think he has. Needs a run of games before he can be properly judged but that could be preseason next summer before he gets that.

If you added up all the minutes he's played it'd work out at 3 and a half games. One full one against city which lets be honest was a write off for the whole starting 11 so basically he's had minutes here and there to prove his worth.

until he starts a full 5 games consecutively I won't be judging him!

Ormus

irishmover wrote: »

On the otherside out of all of our new signings the biggest let down for me has been Eriksen. He has been pretty woeful up until now with some minor glimpses of the player we seen trash Man United with Ajax. Don't know what's wrong with him....

He's starting to come good now I hope, excellent performance yesterday in a big game at Olt Trafford.

I agree he hasn't looked fit this season though, lacking stamina or something.

As for Lamela, he definitely has the talent and I love the thought of him training alone off his own bat. Just hope he has the patience and confidence to wait til he settles in England and that the club don't decide to cut their losses and ship him back to Italy at a reduced price.

GS11

Needs game time, doesn't have to start games but bring him on, he has loads of talent, he will be a footballing suoerstar, hopefully its for us.

Dublin Spur

Not very impressed so far, but he hasn't really been given a chance.

When he does play, I'd like to see him on the left, with Lennon on the right

It's his more natural side

2nd Row Donkey

.. I suppose the risk is that he might do very little over the next 12 months due to lack of playing time/injuries etc and before you know it we end up with a very very expense Dos Santos on our hands.

Hopefully we can sit tight and give him the time he needs but DL isn't exactly know for that so we might end up shipping him off for 10-15M after the world cup.

hugo29

give the lad a chance, 21 years of age, learning the language, new league, new team, he will come good

Devo from Dublin

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

.. I suppose the risk is that he might do very little over the next 12 months due to lack of playing time/injuries etc and before you know it we end up with a very very expense Dos Santos on our hands.

Hopefully we can sit tight and give him the time he needs but DL isn't exactly know for that so we might end up shipping him off for 10-15M after the world cup.

Thats my line!!!;)

GS11

hugo29 wrote: »

give the lad a chance, 21 years of age, learning the language, new league, new team, he will come good

The only problem here is the guy isn't being given a chance to play, he's being no worse than Siggy, Chadli, Holtby, Eriksen, townsend when he's being on the pitch, when he has come on he has shown plenty of skill, yes, he may not be up to speed yet but he is a much better option than Chadli, Holtby or siggy. eriksen has stepped it up in the last few games and I've no doubt Eric would as well if he was given a run in the team.

He doesn't have to start but give him game time.

Leinstersqspur

Dos Santos was too concerned with partying than training. Lamela appears more focused, particularly as he was pictured training alone on the WHL pitch after the West Brom game.

I'd also guess it's harder to get capped for the Argentinian side than the Mexican.

PS. GDS is having a good season (only 24yrs old still)..

everdead.ie

Hope Lamela starts this weekend he's shown himself to be very good at linking up with other players but obviously still adjusting to the move look how long it took Sandro to break into the team and I thought he was very good apart from one slip up in a game against Bolton.

DubPerryman

I'd really like to see Lamela behind Soldado if Adebayor is out. Lamela's long-term future for us is through the middle.

Eriksen has looked effective coming in from the left. It could really gel.

GS11

DubPerryman wrote: »

I'd really like to see Lamela behind Soldado if Adebayor is out. Lamela's long-term future for us is through the middle.

Eriksen has looked effective coming in from the left. It could really gel.

I agree, or next best option on the right, he's not a classic winger.

everdead.ie

Lamela is out injured for the FA cup game with a thigh injury.

SuprSi

We have some injury list at the moment, top of the table on Physioroom;

Siggy
Holtby
Ade
Paulinho
Defoe
Townsend
Sandro
Kaboul
Verts

Add a couple of defenders and a keeper and that's a bloody good team! Apparently Ade, Holtby and Siggy are up for late fitness tests.

everdead.ie

SuprSi wrote: »

We have some injury list at the moment, top of the table on Physioroom;

Siggy
Holtby
Ade
Paulinho
Defoe
Townsend
Sandro
Kaboul
Verts

Add a couple of defenders and a keeper and that's a bloody good team! Apparently Ade, Holtby and Siggy are up for late fitness tests.

Ade supposedly just cramped up really badly and it's gone down now, I'm really not surprised not playing competitively and then playing 4 times in 11 days would be rough for anyone.

SuprSi

I'm not starting a match thread as we never win when I do...

Tim on team news: "Jermain, Lewis and Andros are all back in training, which is good news. I spoke to Ade after United and he said he cramped up in all areas, but thankfully it has settled down and he's ready to perform. Sandro and Younes will hopefully be back in training next week."

Erik (thigh), Kyle Naughton (ankle, hamstring), Paulinho (ankle), Gylfi (calf) and Jan (ankle) are all out.

DubPerryman

SuprSi wrote: »

We have some injury list at the moment, top of the table on Physioroom;

Siggy
Holtby
Ade
Paulinho
Defoe
Townsend
Sandro
Kaboul
Verts

The shocking thing is we're top of the list and all the players who are out are relative first teamers.

Some of the other teams' lists have a few barely squad players.

DubPerryman

SuprSi wrote: »

I'm not starting a match thread as we never win when I do...

Haha. I decided to not start the match thread anymore after we lost a couple early in the season.

Who started the Howard Webb match thread..... Sorry... the United match thread?

Devo from Dublin

DubPerryman wrote: »

Haha. I decided to not start the match thread anymore after we lost a couple early in the season.

Who started the Howard Webb match thread..... Sorry... the United match thread?

Me!;)

SuprSi

Devo from Dublin wrote: »

Me!;)

I think you've nominated yourself as the designated match thread starter in that case!

jobeenfitz

SuprSi wrote: »

I think you've nominated yourself as the designated match thread starter in that case!

Until things go horribly wrong then we can all blame Devo. DL is safe we have a new scapegoat.

SuprSi

This doesn't sound good...

No Stomach for the fight:

"Erik Lamela’s Tottenham career looks all but over after his father revealed the player is desperate to quit White Hart Lane.

Lamela only joined Spurs in the summer as part of a club record £30million deal, but he has struggled to adapt to life in England.

And despite Tim Sherwood previously shrugging off speculation that the 21-year-old could leave on-loan this month, Jose Lamela says his son is desperate to leave.

‘Erik is not happy and wants to go back to Italy,’ he told the Italian media.

‘He has been linked with Lazio, but I don’t know anything about this. Could he re-join Roma? I don’t know.

‘Tottenham does not want him to leave in January.’

Lamela has made just nine Premier League appearances this term – and was previously linked with a transfer to Inter Milan."

http://metro.co.uk/2014/01/07/erik-l...mela-4253483/?

SuprSi

That link doesn't work;

http://metro.co.uk/2014/01/07/erik-lamela-wants-to-quit-tottenham-in-january-reveals-father-jose-lamela-4253483/

hugo29

Metro, anti spurs rag mag

Leinstersqspur

Played in an organised friendly today v Charlton. So did Holtby.
Spurs won 10-6, both Lamela and Holtby scored. Obika scored six.

Devo from Dublin

I think we should keep him but do with him what we have done with other youngsters, ie Walker,Caulker,Rose, Livermore..send them out with gaurantteed Prem Football every week. Holtby to for that matter.
Let them come back in the summer with the Prem experience ready to rock.
I was listening to The Spurs Show podcast this morning, and one of the guests was saying that , he was in Argentina 3 years ago watching River Plate and this young lad was running rings round everyone, and the locals and natives were saying he's their new Maradonna, this lad then went to Roma!!!!:eek:
We CANT sell him or loan him out of the EPL!!!!

Glebee

Devo from Dublin wrote: »

I think we should keep him but do with him what we have done with other youngsters, ie Walker,Caulker,Rose, Livermore..send them out with gaurantteed Prem Football every week. Holtby to for that matter.
Let them come back in the summer with the Prem experience ready to rock.
I was listening to The Spurs Show podcast this morning, and one of the guests was saying that , he was in Argentina 3 years ago watching River Plate and this young lad was running rings round everyone, and the locals and natives were saying he's their new Maradonna, this lad then went to Roma!!!!:eek:
We CANT sell him or loan him out of the EPL!!!!

Heard the podcast alright this morning. Surely putting Lamela out on loan is a complete disaster. If he is put out on loan who ever approved the purchase should be ****ed straight out the door after him.

SuprSi

Glebee wrote: »

Heard the podcast alright this morning. Surely putting Lamela out on loan is a complete disaster. If he is put out on loan who ever approved the purchase should be ****ed straight out the door after him.

Fully agree. You don't spend that kind of money on a player and then send him out on loan (unless you're Chelsea).

jobeenfitz

SuprSi wrote: »

Fully agree. You don't spend that kind of money on a player and then send him out on loan (unless you're Chelsea).

We already paid the 30m but that should not stop us doing what is firstly, best for the club and also what is good for the player. If loaning him out is the right thing to do then do it. It didn't work out yet, sometimes these things are instant success other times not so. I don't think someone should automatically be sacked if he is loaned out.

Personally I would not loan him out til he has got the chance to play a half dozen full and consecutive games for us.

Leinstersqspur

He needs a few games, loaning him out is not necessary. He is a class above Walker, Caulker, Rose et al. He played a full season for Roma last season in Serie A and banged in 15 goals. He needs a run of games, he should be started at home to Palace, away to Swansea and if he shows form in those two at home to City.

nbar12

if he's going to be loaned out it should be to another premier league club who are maybe battling relegation

Sugarlumps

Loaning out a 30 million player is farcical. Just play him, even for 20 minute bursts coming on as sub until his confidence grows. It's the only way he's going to progress in this league.

davycc

if he is fit id start him for the next 5 games in a row and he will be absolutely flying by then im sure...needs actual real game time to grow..10mins here and there isnt worth a fook to him overall...only way he will show his true abilites will be by like this imo

everdead.ie

Both his father and brother have both said he's not going anywhere in January so he's here for a bit longer anyway hopefully he gets some more game time.

DubPerryman

everdead.ie wrote: »

Both his father and brother have both said he's not going anywhere in January so he's here for a bit longer anyway hopefully he gets some more game time.

He'll have to put the work in and fight for his place if he's to make the World Cup.

Hopefully we see the best of him, I think he could be great for us!

everdead.ie

OK so Lamela doubtful according to Michael Bridge in twitter.

Devo from Dublin

FFS..getting really p1ssed off with this Lamela saga..

From now on, he's known to me as................Pamela!

Sugarlumps

In fairness were decimated with injuries, to me there seems to be more injuries than ever, and that goes for all clubs. And considering you can barely make a tackle these days, what with all the latest technology to enhance recovery it's worse than ever.

Sugarlumps

http://www.london24.com/sport/tottenham/spurs_boss_considers_change_of_style_to_incorporate_chadli_and_lamela_1_3199838

Change of system to incorporate Lamela & Chadli.

leonards

It's all gone very quiet on this thread! What the plan do you think? I'm hoping he plages in EL...