Are there jobs out there.

Caonima

Websites like Recruitireland, monster, and jobs.ie seem to have stuff going

runawaybishop

IT has plenty of jobs, we struggle to fill positions.

There do seem to be a lot of employers out there taking the piss looking for a lot of experience for poor wages.

dodderangler

Not only lads that were in construction but other trades aswell. Like myself I couldn't get any job to finish my last year as a mechanic but now a days money is more important and I had to get an ordinary job based on commission of door t door sales.
Not the job I had in mind but need the money. Have bills and rent to pay so any job is a job and some people aren't willing to do anything other than their trade but that's their loss on money.

gs39t

NiallSparky wrote: »

Plenty of IT companies throwing money around searching for skilled workers.

Entry level IT jobs now seem to require a degree, 5+ years experience and three programming languages.

There is a big requirement for highly skilled IT people, if you look at any of the job sites. These are roles requiring a very specialised skillset that not a lot of people have.

The Backwards Man

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

It depends on the work and where it is. I'm not changing career from admin to turf digging for anyone.

And therein lies the problem. People have a predefined, rigid and inflexible notion of what their occupation is, when and where they can work, and what their terms and conditions of employment should be.

Then they have a right old moan when they can't find work.

Christ the Redeemer

runawaybishop wrote: »

IT has plenty of jobs, we struggle to fill positions.

There do seem to be a lot of employers out there taking the piss looking for a lot of experience for poor wages.

That's to scare away chancers.

JonSnuuu

I started a new job back in April, a few of the lads that started with me ended up leaving because "they were better off on the dole".

I personally think the dole should be reduced to a point where people are never better of on it than in work. It just defeats the purpose I think. Who's going to go out and look for work if they can lounge around all day and get more money for it than they would from actually working?

SCOOP 64

Caonima wrote: »

Websites like Recruitireland, monster, and jobs.ie seem to have stuff going

yes, not that many for unskilled, only management positions , IT etc......

shruikan2553

I see plenty of jobs available in shops around galway. Great if you have several years experience, or if youre like me and dont have years of experience they have no interest in you. Its only thanks to jobs in college that I got any work

Pingi

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

There arent a lot of people who would prefer that, especially if its a full time 39 hour week. 39 x 8.65 is €337 before tax, thats a bit better than the €188 for being on the dole.

Sure if you are

Motivated to get up and go to work for the extra €150ish a week
Have no or little travel and or childcare costs
Don't have a lot of experience with previously high paying jobs
or savings to get by on while you wait for something better.
and are not a recent graduate waiting on a grad job

I'm not saying it's right, I had 8 years of being paid <€10 an hour and learned a lot but there are people plenty of people who'd turn there nose up at lower paid jobs - Examples here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=85327146

NTMK

gs39t wrote: »

Entry level IT jobs now seem to require a degree, 5+ years experience and three programming languages.

Its the same in a lot of engineering and science too. I spent 9 months on the dole after graduating before i managed to get a job in the uk. I had a total of 2 interviews for Irish jobs which were solely got on the fact that there is limited number of people in my field in Ireland and they couldnt find someone with 5+ years exp. to work for 20K:rolleyes:

SCOOP 64

I can see pepole living in Dublin , Cork, not seeing the problem as much as some one livlng in waterford ,wexford etc.(nor would they be ale to afford to move there).

Sir Humphrey Appleby

Caonima wrote: »

Websites like Recruitireland, monster, and jobs.ie seem to have stuff going

Yea for chuggers and commission only door knocking salespeople!

Caonima

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

yes, not that many for unskilled ,management positions , IT etc......

http://www.jobs.ie/

Front page says different. IT 297, Management 220, various unskilled rack up a few hundred. Granted, compared to the 'boom times' (spit) it's tiny, but there are still opportunities there. It is hard, though, and as one of the previous posters mentioned, some unscrupulous employers are using it as an opportunity to lower wages and create further educational deflation.

Shenshen

gs39t wrote: »

Entry level IT jobs now seem to require a degree, 5+ years experience and three programming languages.

There is a big requirement for highly skilled IT people, if you look at any of the job sites. These are roles requiring a very specialised skillset that not a lot of people have.

That's something we noticed quite a lot - companies are looking for people who are absolute experts with the particular sets of software used in the company, and with their very own tailored configurations.
Essentially, if you haven't worked for the same company for the last 5 years already, you haven't a chance in Hades.

Vinz Mesrine

Mr.S wrote: »

Retail jobs are there, the amount of people I know who have gotten jobs recently is crazy. (Dublin)

Retail jobs will always come up at this time of the year in preparation for christmas.

runawaybishop

Christ the Redeemer wrote: »

That's to scare away chancers.

Yes, most likely. I guess also you advertise on the lower end, rather than negotiate down from high up.

runawaybishop

Shenshen wrote: »

That's something we noticed quite a lot - companies are looking for people who are absolute experts with the particular sets of software used in the company, and with their very own tailored configurations.
Essentially, if you haven't worked for the same company for the last 5 years already, you haven't a chance in Hades.

That's a wishlist, not what they expect to get. A decently laid out CV and a modicrum of relevant experience should get you in the door.

1ZRed

Where I am there are SFA jobs going, and what's there is gone in a second because they get swarmed by hundreds of applicants. It's very difficult for someone like me who is young and has far less experience to get one of these jobs. They want you to be so experienced but how am I supposed to build it if you won't employ me and I can't work it up?

I keep myself going and I work on sites laying blocks, I only got ahead there because of a favour and I had to prove my worth and work to keep my job, which I did thankfully. It's nothing fancy but I'm grateful I have that much, even though that work is so inconsistent with big enough gaps in between jobs sometimes. All the while I put in on countless jobs, and out of over 50 or so attempts in the last 18 months, I've gotten one interview which led no where.

People say there are jobs there if you look, but really sometimes there just isn't depending on your circumstances and location, no matter how hard you try.

Vinz Mesrine

Pingi wrote: »

Sure if you are

Motivated to get up and go to work for the extra €150ish a week
Have no or little travel and or childcare costs
Don't have a lot of experience with previously high paying jobs
or savings to get by on while you wait for something better.
and are not a recent graduate waiting on a grad job

I'm not saying it's right, I had 8 years of being paid <€10 an hour and learned a lot but there are people plenty of people who'd turn there nose up at lower paid jobs - Examples here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=85327146

I would gladly get up out of bed for an extra €150 a week, the job i got recently will probably cost me €50 in petrol weekly. Its a retail job but pays more than minimum wage. Ive been on the dole too long now, it grates at your soul and i couldn't do it anymore. It gets me up out of the house, it keeps my mind active and i will be looking towards a management position either in this company or in another in a short period of time.

I have previous supervisory and managerial experience in retail and customer service roles but because i have been out of work so long, i wasnt even being considered for positions. I have now got his position, it gets me off the dole and back in the work force which shows future potential employers im not a dosser happy to sit back and sponge off the government and tax payers.

zl1whqvjs75cdy

I'd agree that there are ridiculous requirements from companies. For example a job I was looking at required a PhD and three years relevant industry experience. Salary was 24k. After 11 years of training (4 undergrad 4 post grad and 3 industry) I would want a hell of a lot more than 24k. Its ridiculous.

Shenshen

runawaybishop wrote: »

That's a wishlist, not what they expect to get. A decently laid out CV and a modicrum of relevant experience should get you in the door.

Well, my husband has had some 5 interviews so far, so the door isn't the problem. Getting the job is, though. He's been told he's either "too qualified" or in most cases "not experienced enough with our own systems".

One company came back saying they might hire him next month (on a 4 months contract), but they're currently trying to find someone who has worked with their own, tailor-made software for at least 3 years or so.

I'm still positive he's going to find something eventually, but I hadn't really expected it to be this hard or take this long.

pauliebdub

The Backwards Man wrote: »

And therein lies the problem. People have a predefined, rigid and inflexible notion of what their occupation is, when and where they can work, and what their terms and conditions of employment should be.

Then they have a right old moan when they can't find work.

But few people really want to take a step backwards in their careers.

Vinz Mesrine

JonSnuuu wrote: »

I started a new job back in April, a few of the lads that started with me ended up leaving because "they were better off on the dole".

I personally think the dole should be reduced to a point where people are never better of on it than in work. It just defeats the purpose I think. Who's going to go out and look for work if they can lounge around all day and get more money for it than they would from actually working?

And how does that apply to genuine people like myself where €188 just isnt enough to survive on?

gs39t

runawaybishop wrote: »

That's a wishlist, not what they expect to get. A decently laid out CV and a modicrum of relevant experience should get you in the door.

I recently got a 'shove off' from a recruitment agency about a job I applied for - and met all the criteria and then some - because I hadnt used the particular database that their client uses. I had used everything BUT, and had several years experience in the same job in two different companies.

The end client might realise the reality of the situation but as many roles are through recruiters, some treat it as a box-ticking exercise. Not tick all boxes = not passed along.

Pingi

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

I would gladly get up out of bed for an extra €150 a week, the job i got recently will probably cost me €50 in petrol weekly. Its a retail job but pays more than minimum wage. Ive been on the dole too long now, it grates at your soul and i couldn't do it anymore. It gets me up out of the house, it keeps my mind active and i will be looking towards a management position either in this company or in another in a short period of time.

I have previous supervisory and managerial experience in retail and customer service roles but because i have been out of work so long, i wasnt even being considered for positions. I have now got his position, it gets me off the dole and back in the work force which shows future potential employers im not a dosser happy to sit back and sponge off the government and tax payers.

Good for you, all i'm saying is there are lots of people who wouldn't work jobs <€10ph and I believe I am right

I didn't mean you personally or everybody on the dole re-read my OP

Vinz Mesrine

Eve Defeated Vaporizer wrote: »

I'd agree that there are ridiculous requirements from companies. For example a job I was looking at required a PhD and three years relevant industry experience. Salary was 24k. After 11 years of training (4 undergrad 4 post grad and 3 industry) I would want a hell of a lot more than 24k. Its ridiculous.

So youd rather sit at home on the dole than go out and earn 24k a year?

Vinz Mesrine

Pingi wrote: »

Good for you, all i'm saying is there are lots of people who wouldn't work jobs <€10ph and I believe I am right

I didn't mean you personally or everybody on the dole re-read my OP

I didnt mean to disagree with you, i was just giving my own situation as an example. Of course there are people who wouldnt work for less than €10 p/h, i cannot fathom someone thinking like that.

The way i see it is very simple, instead of sitting at home on the dole, go and take any job you can even if it is minimum wage and while you are doing that job, continue to apply for "better" jobs on a higher wage.

People refusing to work for anything under €10 p/h are just as bad as the dossers who have no interest in ever working again.

kirving

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

So youd rather sit at home on the dole than go out and earn 24k a year?

It completely depends on the sector which the job is in. No point in compounding the problem of employers being mean by actually working for a low salary if you're worth more. What happens if people in a particular sector work for nothing, is that the entire sector is devalued, hurting yourself big time in the long run.

Caonima

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

People refusing to work for anything under €10 p/h are just as bad as the dossers who have no interest in ever working again.

So I suppose beggars can be choosers

People turning their noses up at e10 is nonsensical... why turn your nose up at A JOB when so many people don't have one or are losing their's each day...