Are there jobs out there.

Elbaston

Pretty straight forward, are a good number of people just using the excuse that 'theres no work out there' to justify remaining on the welfare.

what percentage would you think?

The Backwards Man

Elbaston wrote: »

Pretty straight forward, are a good number of people just using the excuse that 'theres no work out there' to justify remaining on the welfare.

what percentage would you think?

Plenty of work out there. I know a couple of fellas really struggling to find workers. People say they want jobs, but people willing to work is a different thing entirely it seems.

princess-lala

If you want a job you'll find one!

Eight Ball

In certain sectors yes but overall things are as bad as ever. A lot of the jobs are very low pay and jobslave schemes not worth the bother.

cantdecide

There are a lot of short term, part time and minimum wage jobs out there.

bbam

I live in the north-east in a rural community. There is no work in the area at all. Long commutes to min wage jobs in larger urban areas is one option, but it's hard to make it add up.

I know one chap who is doing it, €0.50 above minimum wage, 45 mile round trip. He's 20-30 better off than if he was on the social.

There is some work, but outside the major urban centres there is nearly none.

kennryyr

There are a lot of jobs out there, if you're in anyway NOT a retard you will get one.

Eight Ball

FG/Labour just want the jobless figures down and if that means pushing people into 20 hours a week work for 8.65 an hour or a jobslave scam job they will do it. Anything to get the numbers down. They are only interested in the next election.

Eight Ball

kennryyr wrote: »

There are a lot of jobs out there, if you're in anyway NOT a retard you will get one.

Absolute and utter BS.

pauliebdub

It might be difficult to find work if you have very few or no skills and qualifications, or a crappy degree.

Lots of employers are looking for experienced and qualified staff and its sometimes hard to find

It also depends on where you live, it's easier in large urban areas than in rural Ireland.

Plug

I was half thinking of coming home from Oz but maybe not. Maybe Norway for mechanics so!

Vinz Mesrine

Ive been out of work for over a year until very recently, i managed to get myself a job.

I was applying for EVERY SINGLE JOB that i was suited for,some weeks i was applying for 10+ jobs. There are jobs out there but the problem is there are also hundreds of people applying for those jobs. I wanted to be working, i hated sitting at home all day looking at the same 4 walls. I would estimate i applied for over 100 jobs and managed to get 3 interviews, that is the stark reality of the situation in this country.

Obviously there are people taking the piss out of the system but there are a lot more genuine people like myself using it aswell. Nobody in this country wants to live on €188 a week, its just not feasible with the price of rent, petrol and other necessities. There were some weeks where after bills i was left with €10/€20 a week to get food for the week. The people who are happy on the dole have plenty of side scams ensuring they receive a lot of money from other methods.

Sleepy

There some employment out there but not nearly enough to take everyone off the live register. Most of what's available is either unsuitable for the skill-sets (or lack thereof) of many on the live register and a lot of what's available simply can't compete with our high welfare rates.

Sir Humphrey Appleby

princess-lala wrote: »

If you want a job you'll find one!

Sure, In Canada or Australia.
Not too many jobs going in Ireland however.

king size mars bar

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Plenty of work out there. I know a couple of fellas really struggling to find workers. People say they want jobs, but people willing to work is a different thing entirely it seems.

what sector are these fellas looking for workers in?

Jester252

Jobs are out there. Employer just whats people with experience and 3 level degree for an entry level job. Most minimum wage job is now part of the Job Bridge. That just requires you to be on the dole for 3 months and work for €50 a week. Other jobs require to know someone in the company.

questionmark?

Ya there is plenty of jobs out there, if out there means the UK, Oz, Korea, Germany etc... There is Feck all well paid jobs in Ireland at the moment especially outside of Dublin.

bbam

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

Ive been out of work for over a year until very recently, i managed to get myself a job.

I was applying for EVERY SINGLE JOB that i was suited for,some weeks i was applying for 10+ jobs. There are jobs out there but the problem is there are also hundreds of people applying for those jobs. I wanted to be working, i hated sitting at home all day looking at the same 4 walls. I would estimate i applied for over 100 jobs and managed to get 3 interviews, that is the stark reality of the situation in this country.

Obviously there are people taking the piss out of the system but there are a lot more genuine people like myself using it aswell. Nobody in this country wants to live on €188 a week, its just not feasible with the price of rent, petrol and other necessities. There were some weeks where after bills i was left with €10/€20 a week to get food for the week. The people who are happy on the dole have plenty of side scams ensuring they receive a lot of money from other methods.

Well done you... I hope it goes well..

Also many, many of the "jobs" advertised are made up by recruitment agencies to troll for CV's.. I read an article last year that estimated it tobe as high as 60%, can't find link now though

Pingi

There are not a lot of jobs and a lot of competition for the ones available. The staff turnover in most places has been reduced dramatically.

There are also a lot of people who would rather be on the dole than work jobs that pay less than €10PH.

It's a venn diagram

dodderangler

questionmark? wrote: »

Ya there is plenty of jobs out there, if out there means the UK, Oz, Korea, Germany etc... There is Feck all well paid jobs in Ireland at the moment especially outside of Dublin.

Well paid?
A job is a job isn't it and better than being a sponge off our country and being out in same category as them junkies outside the dole every day pissing about drinking and moaning about everyone else

Amirani

Plenty of IT companies throwing money around searching for skilled workers.

Vinz Mesrine

Pingi wrote: »

There are also a lot of people who would rather be on the dole than work jobs that pay less than €10PH.

There arent a lot of people who would prefer that, especially if its a full time 39 hour week. 39 x 8.65 is €337 before tax, thats a bit better than the €188 for being on the dole.

The Backwards Man

king size mars bar wrote: »

what sector are these fellas looking for workers in?

Range of sectors, construction, engineering, transport, services. Once people have to work past 5 in the evening, on a Sunday or away from home for a night, the desire for 'work' decreases dramatically.

Talib Fiasco

I'm a Primary Teaching student, everyone knows that situation but I'm optimistic. A friend of mine went straight to Dubai for a year and was teaching there and then only a few weeks after she came home she was offered to sub for maternity leave and has since been given a permanent post in the same school...she was incredibly lucky but fortune favours the brave and all that. The fact she was a girl as well, I'm a lad so that's another plus with regards to getting a job in teaching.

As has been mentioned already, if you really want it and really go for it, you will get eventually...that's with regards to a job, but is applicable to other areas I'm sure :pac:

downwesht

My boss put add in local press for fish filleter/fish shop assistant.Good job,good terms and pay.Got NO replies! I know at least 3 on the dole that the job would suit.......they are too busy.........SIGNING ON!:mad:

Shenshen

I suspect it's very much sector-dependent.

My OH has been out of work for about 4 months now and is finding it very difficult to find something. He's not being considered for entry-level positions due to his age and experience, and the higher-level positions are few and far between at the moment.

syklops

NiallSparky wrote: »

Plenty of IT companies throwing money around searching for skilled workers.

I get an email or phone call from a recruiter every other day. There are jobs out there.

The problem in Ireland is people about 5-10 years ago left IT degrees to earn 20 euros an hour stacking bricks. If they'd stayed in college they'd have 5+ years experience in IT now, and they'd have a job or they at least would be employable.

SCOOP 64

downwesht wrote: »

My boss put add in local press for fish filleter/fish shop assistant.Good job,good terms and pay.Got NO replies! I know at least 3 on the dole that the job would suit.......they are too busy.........SIGNING ON!:mad:

is the job still going?

zl1whqvjs75cdy

WAs having a think about this the other day. Are a lot of people on the live register still construction workers? Things are never going back to how they were so a large amount of construction workers will unfortunately not find work here again, but maybe they are hanging on in the hope that something will come up.

long range shooter

Plug wrote: »

I was half thinking of coming home from Oz but maybe not. Maybe Norway for mechanics so!

Plenty of work in Norway:D

Mr Benevolent

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Plenty of work out there. I know a couple of fellas really struggling to find workers. People say they want jobs, but people willing to work is a different thing entirely it seems.

It depends on the work and where it is. I'm not changing career from admin to turf digging for anyone.

Caonima

Websites like Recruitireland, monster, and jobs.ie seem to have stuff going

runawaybishop

IT has plenty of jobs, we struggle to fill positions.

There do seem to be a lot of employers out there taking the piss looking for a lot of experience for poor wages.

dodderangler

Not only lads that were in construction but other trades aswell. Like myself I couldn't get any job to finish my last year as a mechanic but now a days money is more important and I had to get an ordinary job based on commission of door t door sales.
Not the job I had in mind but need the money. Have bills and rent to pay so any job is a job and some people aren't willing to do anything other than their trade but that's their loss on money.

gs39t

NiallSparky wrote: »

Plenty of IT companies throwing money around searching for skilled workers.

Entry level IT jobs now seem to require a degree, 5+ years experience and three programming languages.

There is a big requirement for highly skilled IT people, if you look at any of the job sites. These are roles requiring a very specialised skillset that not a lot of people have.

The Backwards Man

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

It depends on the work and where it is. I'm not changing career from admin to turf digging for anyone.

And therein lies the problem. People have a predefined, rigid and inflexible notion of what their occupation is, when and where they can work, and what their terms and conditions of employment should be.

Then they have a right old moan when they can't find work.

Christ the Redeemer

runawaybishop wrote: »

IT has plenty of jobs, we struggle to fill positions.

There do seem to be a lot of employers out there taking the piss looking for a lot of experience for poor wages.

That's to scare away chancers.

JonSnuuu

I started a new job back in April, a few of the lads that started with me ended up leaving because "they were better off on the dole".

I personally think the dole should be reduced to a point where people are never better of on it than in work. It just defeats the purpose I think. Who's going to go out and look for work if they can lounge around all day and get more money for it than they would from actually working?

SCOOP 64

Caonima wrote: »

Websites like Recruitireland, monster, and jobs.ie seem to have stuff going

yes, not that many for unskilled, only management positions , IT etc......

shruikan2553

I see plenty of jobs available in shops around galway. Great if you have several years experience, or if youre like me and dont have years of experience they have no interest in you. Its only thanks to jobs in college that I got any work

Pingi

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

There arent a lot of people who would prefer that, especially if its a full time 39 hour week. 39 x 8.65 is €337 before tax, thats a bit better than the €188 for being on the dole.

Sure if you are

Motivated to get up and go to work for the extra €150ish a week
Have no or little travel and or childcare costs
Don't have a lot of experience with previously high paying jobs
or savings to get by on while you wait for something better.
and are not a recent graduate waiting on a grad job

I'm not saying it's right, I had 8 years of being paid <€10 an hour and learned a lot but there are people plenty of people who'd turn there nose up at lower paid jobs - Examples here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=85327146

NTMK

gs39t wrote: »

Entry level IT jobs now seem to require a degree, 5+ years experience and three programming languages.

Its the same in a lot of engineering and science too. I spent 9 months on the dole after graduating before i managed to get a job in the uk. I had a total of 2 interviews for Irish jobs which were solely got on the fact that there is limited number of people in my field in Ireland and they couldnt find someone with 5+ years exp. to work for 20K:rolleyes:

SCOOP 64

I can see pepole living in Dublin , Cork, not seeing the problem as much as some one livlng in waterford ,wexford etc.(nor would they be ale to afford to move there).

Sir Humphrey Appleby

Caonima wrote: »

Websites like Recruitireland, monster, and jobs.ie seem to have stuff going

Yea for chuggers and commission only door knocking salespeople!

Caonima

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

yes, not that many for unskilled ,management positions , IT etc......

http://www.jobs.ie/

Front page says different. IT 297, Management 220, various unskilled rack up a few hundred. Granted, compared to the 'boom times' (spit) it's tiny, but there are still opportunities there. It is hard, though, and as one of the previous posters mentioned, some unscrupulous employers are using it as an opportunity to lower wages and create further educational deflation.

Shenshen

gs39t wrote: »

Entry level IT jobs now seem to require a degree, 5+ years experience and three programming languages.

There is a big requirement for highly skilled IT people, if you look at any of the job sites. These are roles requiring a very specialised skillset that not a lot of people have.

That's something we noticed quite a lot - companies are looking for people who are absolute experts with the particular sets of software used in the company, and with their very own tailored configurations.
Essentially, if you haven't worked for the same company for the last 5 years already, you haven't a chance in Hades.

Vinz Mesrine

Mr.S wrote: »

Retail jobs are there, the amount of people I know who have gotten jobs recently is crazy. (Dublin)

Retail jobs will always come up at this time of the year in preparation for christmas.

runawaybishop

Christ the Redeemer wrote: »

That's to scare away chancers.

Yes, most likely. I guess also you advertise on the lower end, rather than negotiate down from high up.

runawaybishop

Shenshen wrote: »

That's something we noticed quite a lot - companies are looking for people who are absolute experts with the particular sets of software used in the company, and with their very own tailored configurations.
Essentially, if you haven't worked for the same company for the last 5 years already, you haven't a chance in Hades.

That's a wishlist, not what they expect to get. A decently laid out CV and a modicrum of relevant experience should get you in the door.

1ZRed

Where I am there are SFA jobs going, and what's there is gone in a second because they get swarmed by hundreds of applicants. It's very difficult for someone like me who is young and has far less experience to get one of these jobs. They want you to be so experienced but how am I supposed to build it if you won't employ me and I can't work it up?

I keep myself going and I work on sites laying blocks, I only got ahead there because of a favour and I had to prove my worth and work to keep my job, which I did thankfully. It's nothing fancy but I'm grateful I have that much, even though that work is so inconsistent with big enough gaps in between jobs sometimes. All the while I put in on countless jobs, and out of over 50 or so attempts in the last 18 months, I've gotten one interview which led no where.

People say there are jobs there if you look, but really sometimes there just isn't depending on your circumstances and location, no matter how hard you try.

Vinz Mesrine

Pingi wrote: »

Sure if you are

Motivated to get up and go to work for the extra €150ish a week
Have no or little travel and or childcare costs
Don't have a lot of experience with previously high paying jobs
or savings to get by on while you wait for something better.
and are not a recent graduate waiting on a grad job

I'm not saying it's right, I had 8 years of being paid <€10 an hour and learned a lot but there are people plenty of people who'd turn there nose up at lower paid jobs - Examples here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=85327146

I would gladly get up out of bed for an extra €150 a week, the job i got recently will probably cost me €50 in petrol weekly. Its a retail job but pays more than minimum wage. Ive been on the dole too long now, it grates at your soul and i couldn't do it anymore. It gets me up out of the house, it keeps my mind active and i will be looking towards a management position either in this company or in another in a short period of time.

I have previous supervisory and managerial experience in retail and customer service roles but because i have been out of work so long, i wasnt even being considered for positions. I have now got his position, it gets me off the dole and back in the work force which shows future potential employers im not a dosser happy to sit back and sponge off the government and tax payers.