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Alf Veedersane

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

My flipboard app is set up to collate a load of different health and fitness articles and pieces and I came across a doozy this morning.

It was a mens health article proclaiming the "ten food tricks you dont know" or some other such summarised misunderstanding of science bull**** they spout.

Anyway!

One of the points was about "Scared Vegetables".

The logic was that tearing and ripping your veg before you eat it makes the "still alive" vegetable release more antioxidants as "it thinks it is being attacked and releases these to fight off predators".

Despite all the glaring suspicions Id have with such a snippet, the main thing I gleaned from this article was that obviously Mens Health has never heard of teeth.

I just had a great idea for the next Predator movie.

RidleyRider

I just had a thought there while doing a few abs & core bits this morning. I know it's standard to breath out on exertion but I tried doing the opposite i.e breathing in on exertion. Could all be in my head but things like ab wheel roll outs and hanging leg raises felt more difficult/beneficial.

Any thoughts?

the drifter

RidleyRider wrote: »

I just had a thought there while doing a few abs & core bits this morning. I know it's standard to breath out on exertion but I tried doing the opposite i.e breathing in on exertion. Could all be in my head but things like ab wheel roll outs and hanging leg raises felt more difficult/beneficial.

Any thoughts?

go home Ridley...your drunk...

jugger0

5/3/1... whats the verdict?

runawaybishop

RidleyRider wrote: »

I just had a thought there while doing a few abs & core bits this morning. I know it's standard to breath out on exertion but I tried doing the opposite i.e breathing in on exertion. Could all be in my head but things like ab wheel roll outs and hanging leg raises felt more difficult/beneficial.

Any thoughts?

Sounds like a variation of the valsava manoeuvre. It stabilises your core by exerting internal pressure via a blocked airway. Its like when you hold your nose and breath out though it popping your ears except imagine its in your core and your throat is the pressure value.

LuckyLloyd

jugger0 wrote: »

5/3/1... whats the verdict?

The 1rm calculations based on rep totals at a given weight are bollocks, but you will get stronger and make progress over the long haul.

RidleyRider

runawaybishop wrote: »

Sounds like a variation of the valsava manoeuvre. It stabilises your core by exerting internal pressure via a blocked airway. Its like when you hold your nose and breath out though it popping your ears except imagine its in your core and your throat is the pressure value.

Yeah I knew that...:pac:

Does it have any positive effect?

runawaybishop

RidleyRider wrote: »

Yeah I knew that...:pac:

Does it have any positive effect?

Pressure in the thoracic cavity helps tighten your abdominal muscles and stabilise your spine. It provides a balance to the pressure that is exerted on the outside of your spine. It is similar to the benefits of wearing a belt.

RidleyRider

runawaybishop wrote: »

Pressure in the thoracic cavity helps tighten your abdominal muscles and stabilise your spine. It provides a balance to the pressure that is exerted on the outside of your spine. It is similar to the benefits of wearing a belt.

I was thinking it would be much the same as using a belt with intra ab pressure but then that makes me think that it's a bad idea because I'm not looking for an aid when doing them?

runawaybishop

RidleyRider wrote: »

I was thinking it would be much the same as using a belt with intra ab pressure but then that makes me think that it's a bad idea because I'm not looking for an aid when doing them?

I wouldn't think like that myself, its more technique than aid. Its not like its a piece of equipment you might forget to bring with you and therefore not count in the real world.

RidleyRider

runawaybishop wrote: »

I wouldn't think like that myself, its more technique than aid. Its not like its a piece of equipment you might forget to bring with you and therefore not count in the real world.

True, thanks for that!

jugger0

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The 1rm calculations based on rep totals at a given weight are bollocks, but you will get stronger and make progress over the long haul.

Too light or heavy? Might give it a whirl

runawaybishop

jugger0 wrote: »

Too light or heavy? Might give it a whirl

Its more because lifting X*5 is not the same as lifting Y*1, the way the program is set up you do a heavy single every 4 weeks which personally i think is grand. The program is set up for slow and steady progress.

LuckyLloyd

jugger0 wrote: »

Too light or heavy? Might give it a whirl

My understanding is that there is little point taking it on unless you're in it for the long haul. Download the 531 spreadsheet from AllThingsGym and plug in the numbers and take a look sure. It's a way of getting somewhere a year down the line. If you pick things up and throw them down regularly it may not suit.

runawaybishop

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

My understanding is that there is little point taking it on unless you're in it for the long haul. Download the 531 spreadsheet from AllThingsGym and plug in the numbers and take a look sure. It's a way of getting somewhere a year down the line. If you pick things up and throw them down regularly it may not suit.

On the final sets you can do more than the 5/3/1 and it'll rework your maxes for the next months sessions. I agree that the progress is slower, but thats because it really is more aimed at people that aren't making gains every session any more.

Alf Veedersane

Interesting. Trying to look at a program for the new year and considering all options. I still consider myself as a beginner...I think this forum puts it into perspective, which I like. Not sure if SS or SL are suited. But the 'program' a mate showed me pairing muscle groups interests me. Have had a run at a few sessions on it and still feeling out what weights I should work at to get 3-4 sets at 8/10/15 reps but it's keeping me interested at least

runawaybishop

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Interesting. Trying to look at a program for the new year and considering all options. I still consider myself as a beginner...I think this forum puts it into perspective, which I like. Not sure if SS or SL are suited. But the 'program' a mate showed me pairing muscle groups interests me. Have had a run at a few sessions on it and still feeling out what weights I should work at to get 3-4 sets at 8/10/15 reps but it's keeping me interested at least

ss/sl > madcow > 5/3/1 in terms of gain progression. Of course, that doesn't mean you cant pop onto smolov or GVT etc, they just seem to flow nicely.

edit: i went back to madcow myself after a while on 5/3/1 for a change.

Alf Veedersane

I did consider madcow. I'm not sure how much gym time I'll have after christmas but i'll definitely consider it. I took a bit of time off recently and realised how much I enjoy being in the gym! So that'll complicate things...

jugger0

runawaybishop wrote: »

ss/sl > madcow > 5/3/1 in terms of gain progression. Of course, that doesn't mean you cant pop onto smolov or GVT etc, they just seem to flow nicely.

edit: i went back to madcow myself after a while on 5/3/1 for a change.

Yes. Have you done it yourself? gains?

runawaybishop

jugger0 wrote: »

Yes. Have you done it yourself? gains?

Smolov? Nope - just 5x5:madcow/:5/3/1. I have to cut down my days spent lifting soon due to personal commitments.

Alf Veedersane

Smolov Junior gets gains so I can only imagine the full whack would get you gains. Hanley would appear to be the only one here that's gone through the full Smolov programme, if you want to check out his log.

conzy

725g of meat today :pac:



grow!

Blacktie.

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Interesting. Trying to look at a program for the new year and considering all options. I still consider myself as a beginner...I think this forum puts it into perspective, which I like. Not sure if SS or SL are suited. But the 'program' a mate showed me pairing muscle groups interests me. Have had a run at a few sessions on it and still feeling out what weights I should work at to get 3-4 sets at 8/10/15 reps but it's keeping me interested at least

Yeah I'm the same and my numbers are actually pretty decent. At the intermediate stage but always feeling like I should get stronger before hitting programs like GVT. I'm not even sure why it's like I have to have a 5 plate deadlift before working on size.

Hanley

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Smolov Junior gets gains so I can only imagine the full whack would get you gains. Hanley would appear to be the only one here that's gone through the full Smolov programme, if you want to check out his log.

Kev has too. What's the question?

amazingemmet

YFW this dog is more jacked then 99% of members here, screw that 100%

Zombienosh

Dogs on celltech

Can't stop rolling my ankle playing football.

Squatting Heavy & DLing without any discomfort, but kick a ball with the outside of my boot and ankle goes, spring too hard turning and ankle goes, heck, make a tackle and ankle goes.

Have done rest and recoup every time, but it's inevitable that it happens every single time.

Ideas? How to prevent? How to treat it better than RICE? How to activate ankle before playing etc?

Cheers

Theresalwaysone

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Can't stop rolling my ankle playing football.

Squatting Heavy & DLing without any discomfort, but kick a ball with the outside of my boot and ankle goes, spring too hard turning and ankle goes, heck, make a tackle and ankle goes.

Have done rest and recoup every time, but it's inevitable that it happens every single time.

Ideas? How to prevent? How to treat it better than RICE? How to activate ankle before playing etc?

Cheers

It definitely doesnt help that you are utterly **** at football. :-)

Its an ankle mobility issue for sure. Work on that and it should stop happening. Ankle, Calf and Hammer drills.

I used to have the same problems but some drills for mobility seems to have sorted it.

Thats my 2c.

jugger0

Hanley wrote: »

Kev has too. What's the question?

Ive only done the mesocycle, starting the intense phase for the first time soon... what should i expect? it cant be tougher than the mesocycle surely..

Alf Veedersane

Deleted User wrote: »

Can't stop rolling my ankle playing football.

Squatting Heavy & DLing without any discomfort, but kick a ball with the outside of my boot and ankle goes, spring too hard turning and ankle goes, heck, make a tackle and ankle goes.

Have done rest and recoup every time, but it's inevitable that it happens every single time.

Ideas? How to prevent? How to treat it better than RICE? How to activate ankle before playing etc?

Cheers

Have you done any work on strengthening the ligaments at the ankle, especially on the lateral side? They're probably weak if you keep rolling it.