HEAR Scheme

darryl2010

does anyone know how many points hear scheme will take off for me? my course i applied for are 380,355 and 340 thanks

Bears and Vodka

It all depends on the amount of people going for your courses via the scheme etc.
Look at this thread from last year. Someone was bumped off 25 points, another guy was forgiven whole 70 points.


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056359541

darryl2010

thanks il check that out

biohaiid

I think I heard somehwere the max. is 70, but ya never know.
I hope I get it, it'd be such a stress reliever!:L
But although I live in a disadvantaged area I'm that few metres closer to what I wouldn't even call a town so I mighten't get it. My brother didn't for that reason.

darryl2010

hopefully ye do im in a disadvantged area aswell,so sometimes its actually a good thing hahah

Scarlett Scout

When do we find out if we get HEAR?

Whatsernamex33

You find out in late June/early July (:
Didn't get it last year, so here's to hoping I get it this year (:

Nitsuj

What exactly defines a disadvantaged area?

Whatsernamex33

Nitsuj wrote: »

What exactly defines a disadvantaged area?

'You must live in an area in which there is concentrated disadvantage – in other words, an area where, for example, there is high unemployment and poverty and very few facilities for the community.'

I got that off the website.. Basically that

darryl2010

i should be grand so haha

Nitsuj

Whatsernamex33 wrote: »

'You must live in an area in which there is concentrated disadvantage – in other words, an area where, for example, there is high unemployment and poverty and very few facilities for the community.'

I got that off the website.. Basically that

No clue if I'll get it. I live in a small town/village with a primary school, few shops and pubs...

Whatsernamex33

Is it in Dublin? I've a fair idea which places are classed as disadvantaged in Dublin.. I know when I applied last year, the place where I'm living wasn't classed at disadvantaged (:

Princessxx

Its usually between 10-15% of your points up to 50 points

says if you got 350 and you get 10% of that you have 385 points to play with its usually up to a maximum of 50 points extra though

darryl2010

so if my course wa 355 id get in with 305?

Princessxx

darryl2010 wrote: »

so if my course wa 355 id get in with 305?

amm going by weather you get 10% or 15% you could also certain colleges wont accept you under hear scheme so have to see about your college

darryl2010

yeah the colleges i applied for all take students applying through hear

BurntToaster

How do you know if you've qualified for the Hear Scheme or not? Do you get informed or do they just put you in the separate entry route?

Thanks for the help in advance

Sunny!!

http://www.accesscollege.ie/hear/apply.php

should know by late june:)

Whatsernamex33

They send you out a letter, either it was late June/early July, can't remember. :L

But it basically says if you're eligible or not for it and if you're not, it says where you didn't meet the indicators and what to do if you wish to have the Hear peoples recheck it again. xD

Didn't get it last year, so I've no idea what it says if you're receiving it. :L

Lynchy747

The way it works is 5% of all course places are reserved for HEAR applicants. The CAO will take the person with the highest points of people on HEAR and bump them up to the points required, and so on until HEAR applicants fill the HEAR places.

You are not automatically entitled to a points reduction and therefore you should have tried to get as many points as possible. If HEAR was your main entry route to a course and you're expecting a points reduction of 100 points, for example. You will need to be in the first 5 percent of HEAR applicants who didn't make the cut.

JustLen

Just to let people know that have applied, rang the CAO today and was told letters were posted yesterday evening informing applicants if they have been successful.

So has anybody recieved theirs yet? Anybody waiting on a letter, very anxious myself to be honest...

JustLen

Rang the CAO today and was told letters were posted yesterday evening, thank God I cant wait to find out.

Anyone get theirs yet?

Whatsernamex33

I'd say it'd be tomorrow when everyone gets their letters tbh.
I'm just assuming they'll be here before the CAO closes.

leaveiton

Just a quick question - if you do meet the entry requirements and are on the HEAR scheme, does that mean that you just go in the "normal" application route, and the HEAR places are reserved for those that did not get the points needed?

Whatsernamex33

leaveiton wrote: »

Just a quick question - if you do meet the entry requirements and are on the HEAR scheme, does that mean that you just go in the "normal" application route, and the HEAR places are reserved for those that did not get the points needed?

You could go on either tbh.

Just say you got more than enough for your first choice, then the HEAR points wouldn't be added and you'd be on the normal application route.
But say in another scenario, you could be 10 points off of your first choice or whatever, then the HEAR added points will more than likely be added here and you'd be on the HEAR reserved places thing...


Sorry if it doesn't really make sense.

leaveiton

Whatsernamex33 wrote: »

You could go on either tbh.

Just say you got more than enough for your first choice, then the HEAR points wouldn't be added and you'd be on the normal application route.
But say in another scenario, you could be 10 points off of your first choice or whatever, then the HEAR added points will more than likely be added here and you'd be on the HEAR reserved places thing...


Sorry if it doesn't really make sense.

Yep that makes perfect sense, thanks! I was just wondering about what would happen if you got more than enough points for the course.

JustLen

Whatsernamex33 wrote: »

I'd say it'd be tomorrow when everyone gets their letters tbh.
I'm just assuming they'll be here before the CAO closes.

Well if they were posted yesterday they will most certainly be here by friday. Was just wondering if anyone here had recieved theirs as the woman on the phone said some people have.

What colleges/courses are people hoping to get through the scheme may I ask?:)

certifiedcrepe

I applied for DARE. Not eligible for HEAR. Extremely nervous waiting for the letter. Have anticipated this day since I sent off all my forms last December! Hoping to get into Midwifery in UL. Although I feel like all my exams went really well (much much better than I ever could have thought they would), if I do not get DARE I feel like there will be more pressure on me even though the exams will be done. I will have a lot less hope of going to college. I'm getting so wound up over this, I'm not even sure if I'll sleep tonight. My "significant ongoing illness" as Access call it has impacted so much on my education that I feel it would be really unfair if I don't get DARE and I will spend the rest of summer in a cave. A tad over dramatic maybe, haha, but I just really really want this.

Whatsernamex33

I've said this before, but I doubt I'll get HEAR.. Didn't get it last year, although alot has changed tbh from the past year, so maybe...

And if I magically ;P this year am eligible, my first course doesn't accept HEAR applicants.. So basically just fully need my points from the results. ;P
Second one, journalism.. A few HEAR points would be nice, but then again I'm doubting I'll get it. :L


Did anyone here apply for the DIT access scheme? Same thing as HEAR, reduced points etc., but only for DIT courses. Haven't heard anything yet.

certifiedcrepe

Whatsernamex33 wrote: »

I've said this before, but I doubt I'll get HEAR.. Didn't get it last year, although alot has changed tbh from the past year, so maybe...

And if I magically ;P this year am eligible, my first course doesn't accept HEAR applicants.. So basically just fully need my points from the results. ;P
Second one, journalism.. A few HEAR points would be nice, but then again I'm doubting I'll get it. :L


Did anyone here apply for the DIT access scheme? Same thing as HEAR, reduced points etc., but only for DIT courses. Haven't heard anything yet.

If it is anything like Mary I's access schemes, you won't actually find out until August when college places are being offered!

Avox

Whatsernamex33 wrote: »

You could go on either tbh.

Just say you got more than enough for your first choice, then the HEAR points wouldn't be added and you'd be on the normal application route.
But say in another scenario, you could be 10 points off of your first choice or whatever, then the HEAR added points will more than likely be added here and you'd be on the HEAR reserved places thing...


Sorry if it doesn't really make sense.

Sorry but that's not true. If you get the points for the course, and you've been accepted by HEAR, you've gotten one of the HEAR places. In high demand courses, most of the HEAR places can go to people who already have the points and no-one can get a reduction.

HEAR isn't just about the points reductions, it's about the financial and educational assistance that's provided to you.

Whatsernamex33

Oh right, that's very true...

I had a friend who was eligible for HEAR, but got into their course using their points they got themselves, they never mentioned any of the other benefits of HEAR they got along with it..
Never thought of the financial side of things.

Sorry

leaveiton

Avox wrote: »

Sorry but that's not true. If you get the points for the course, and you've been accepted by HEAR, you've gotten one of the HEAR places. In high demand courses, most of the HEAR places can go to people who already have the points and no-one can get a reduction.

HEAR isn't just about the points reductions, it's about the financial and educational assistance that's provided to you.

Thanks for clearing that up That's what I was wondering about, if I'd go through the HEAR route regardless. I know this isn't the point but I'd almost feel guilty if I got the points anyway and "took away" a place from someone that could have gotten a reduction. I know that's not what it's about, but still :P I agree with you though, too many people seem to focus on the points reductions and almost forget about the extra assistance - which really should be the main focus in my opinion.

Lynchy747

I didn't get a letter this morning anyway just another statement of application

Anyone get their HEAR letter?

Whatsernamex33

Nope same didn't get one, just a statement of application too..:/

Talib Fiasco

Didn't get any letter at all saw a letter directed to me and I was like grand job...opened it, it was the age card form. Still though happy I can get that sorted out now.
^Here does that mean ye didn't get it?

Lynchy747

TheComeUp wrote: »

Didn't get any letter at all saw a letter directed to me and I was like grand job...opened it, it was the age card form. Still though happy I can get that sorted out now.
^Here does that mean ye didn't get it?

Nope you will get a letter saying if you got it or not

Lynchy747

Actually annoying having to wait the weekend now like

Talib Fiasco

^Thanks for clearing that up! Yeah thats a balls. I know it's not gonna make a difference to me about what courses I'm gonna change before sunday but still woulda been nice to know.

JustLen

Nope, no letter its madness that they don't let people know before the CAO deadline. The most annoying part is that I was told on the phone it would definitely be here, bad form

JustLen

Lads if you ring the CAO and give them your CAO number they can tell you oover the phone.

Didn't get it myself best of luck to eveyrone else!

leaveiton

Oh I'm tempted but I think I'll wait to get the letter. I like to have concrete evidence, whether I got it or not. I know that if I rang I'd probably be doubting myself afterwards thinking "Did they say that I got it or not?" :P

Whatsernamex33

Must be getting alot of calls or something, I can't get through.. xD

Talib Fiasco

Na f*ck that I'm not ringing. I'll only get too emotional for some unknown reason. And if I don't get it I'll end up going ape sh*t with the call person. I'm not too bothered as I mentioned above but cheers for telling us that. I might get the balls to do it l8r on now that I think of it :L

JustLen

Haha everyone was dying to find out and now they can they wont!
nervey stuff alright but atleast now I know so I can put it behind me, would of been worse living in hope for the weekend just to be dissapointed monday.
Best of luck anyway to all

Whatsernamex33

Gave my CAO number and everything, and then my credit ran out.. And I never found out, it's just not on. :L

Haha think I'll just leave it now. :L

Talib Fiasco

^Thats very true indeed...yeah I think I might ring. But after the comfort of a fry up and Home + Away :P Sorry that you didn't get it though Era you probably won't need it for the pts anyway but the financial help would be of use to every student, no matter what situation they have like. Did they give you a reason why you didn't get it??

Whatsernamex33

Anyone else call up? Did you's get it? ;P

Going to ring up in the afternoon. :L

certifiedcrepe

About to ring! If any of you saw my post from last night you know how anxious I am about this so I can't wait the weekend.

Talib Fiasco

^All the best. Well I've got food and Home + Away into me but I remembered I must cut a hedge by our house...oh what a shame. I was really looking fwd to ringing...not. F*ck it Hamlet still exists. 'Procrastination is like masturbation, you're f*cking yourself'

certifiedcrepe

They won't answer