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woodoo

Eva Some Sheepskin wrote: »

At least most of you here don't have to live alongside these scurry rats.

you wouldn't believe the half of it tbh.

One of them asked to be arrested because he didn't want to be seen as a rat. In the eyes of normal society he already is worse than a rat.

This case really bothered me. I used to start work in a factory back in the 90's at 4am. I remember it being really miserable having to get up that early to go and do a days work. I can't imagine how awful getting attacked like that sober and on your way to work in winter would be. Those guys should get 40 years.

wes

mickydoomsux wrote: »

I guarantee you these these misunderstood young men were on a raft of benefits.

The vast, vast majority of people on benefits are not criminals, just people down on there luck. Its certainly not a nice place to be.

Also, why blame the welfare state? When its clear that these lads would probably have acted the same way regardless of whether they were employed or not. They killed the guy for the "buzz" ffs. The only people at fault are these scum bags, not the welfare state, not a bad upbringing (lots of people with a bad upbringing who have never committed a crime), or whatever your pet issue is.

woodoo

mickydoomsux wrote: »

These guys and their ilk are just literal human garbage.

An utter waste of time and resources. If they dropped dead this instant it would only have a positive effect on the world.

This is what you get from running an overly generous welfare state.

We need big prisons like this for certain people in Ireland. Just lock them away and basically forget about all rehabilitation. Just let them live out their days behind bars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbfjuYtkJRE

Go to 4:10 for ideas on cells for the scum.

We are far too damn considerate of these scumbags future welbeing.

saa

mickydoomsux wrote: »

I guarantee you these these misunderstood young men were on a raft of benefits.

People their age who are actually doing something productive with their lives aren't out drinking in an industrial estate with their 15 year old girlfriends at three in the morning looking to assault someone.

There is nothing wrong with taking benefits its for those who need it and the issue of benefits is a little off topic but its true justice and social protection is not fair here, the sad fact is they didn't just choose not to do anything with their lives and got benefits (probably) but they took someone elses life and that will result in much more money being spent on them through legal fees and sentences, part of me really feels like if you kill someone here even stab someone for the laugh you kind of get away with it, you can screw up the whole country and definitely walk away from that but if you commit a minor offence you're probably going to pay for that most certainly. If you try and do the right thing then there is not as much support out there for you, you stay away from illegal substance but become an alcoholic there is feck all support but if you become addicted to an illegal substance you can get a programmed funded and benefits from the HSE supports. I know this case has made me angry and maybe wishing for a society where everyone at least tries to do the right thing for themselves and others is a Utopian desire, I know the more extreme cases need more resources than the average joe soap but the level of tolerance to violent crimes we have here unsettles me./

Rant over, :P from a person from a bad home who does the right thing every day because it would be too easy to give up.

prinz

saa wrote: »

There is nothing wrong with taking benefits its for those who need it and the issue of benefits is a little off topic....

It's not off topic in so far as the two up for manslaughter will be back on the streets in the not so distant future and who do you think is going to pay their way in life? The same hardworking law abiding men and women, just like their murder victim. I have no problem with people on welfare support who need it and appreciate it. I have major problems with our state subsidising murderers and scumbags on the tab of the people the state should be protecting.

mickydoomsux

wes wrote: »

The vast, vast majority of people on benefits are not criminals, just people down on there luck. Its certainly not a nice place to be.

Also, why blame the welfare state? When its clear that these lads would probably have acted the same way regardless of whether they were employed or not. They killed the guy for the "buzz" ffs. The only people at fault are these scum bags, not the welfare state, not a bad upbringing (lots of people with a bad upbringing who have never committed a crime), or whatever your pet issue is.

I'm blaming an overly generous welfare state that pays a certain section of the population a living wage just to be a scumbag.

I accept that the vast majority of people on benefits are perfectly law abiding citizens who are just going through a rough patch or are between jobs but there is also a large number of "lifestyle" benefit receivers.

These individuals made up part the 100k or so people we had on unemployment constantly during the boom. To them, the state is there to pay for their accommodation, give them a free travel pass, throw a few pound at them every week and allow them to commit petty crimes with little or no consequence. You see these types up in the courts constantly but it usually isn't until they kill someone that you hear about their 30+ priors in the newspaper.

People like this are just worthless human beings and make a very compelling case for stiffer sentences and possibly some kind of three strikes rule.

Socialist_Pig

mickydoomsux wrote: »

This is what you get from running an overly generous welfare state.

dont be fukking stupid

washman3

If there ever was a case for a referendum to reintroduce the death penalty,this is it. time for those in power to make the rights of ordinary decent people a priority. And time for the general do-gooders and civil liberties "spokespeople" to take a backseat.
That little peroxide,welfare drawing ****wit sickened my stomach this evening. Should have been immediately arrested for attempting to pervert the course of justice.

Acacia

I thought I was immune to shocking stories of murder and general scumbaggery but when I heard about this, it stuck with me for days. I just feel so bad for the victim and his family. What's worse is I can't think of any reason or motivation for these d1cks to take an innocent man's life. It wasn't a botched robbery or an act of revenge. Just savagery. The mind boggles.

lividduck

mickydoomsux wrote: »

I'm blaming an overly generous welfare state that pays a certain section of the population a living wage just to be a scumbag.

I accept that the vast majority of people on benefits are perfectly law abiding citizens who are just going through a rough patch or are between jobs but there is also a large number of "lifestyle" benefit receivers.

These individuals made up part the 100k or so people we had on unemployment constantly during the boom. To them, the state is there to pay for their accommodation, give them a free travel pass, throw a few pound at them every week and allow them to commit petty crimes with little or no consequence. You see these types up in the courts constantly but it usually isn't until they kill someone that you hear about their 30+ priors in the newspaper.

People like this are just worthless human beings and make a very compelling case for stiffer sentences and possibly some kind of three strikes rule.

"These individuals made up part the 100k or so people we had on unemployment constantly during the boom." Can you give us a factual reference for this claim bearing in mind the youngest of these scumbags would have been 13 when the boom ended!
It is really sad to see the horrific murder of this poor man being hijacked by those who want to use it as a weapon to attack the welfare State, particularly when they have only assumptions and innuendo to back up their claims.

questionmark?

I'm actually f@"@"@?g raging :mad:

Dirty scum and how the fcuk isnt this been classed as murder. How can attacking somebody for no reason and kicking them in the head not be classedas murder.:mad:

When is justice in this side of the world going to stop listening to so called human rights groups and start giving real sentences to these vermin who make it their goal in life to take the basic human rights that are sought by the majority. i.e. the right to live in peace, the right not to have your stuff robbed and not to be attacked when going to work


A buzz a fckn buzz grrrr :mad: I'm having a beer

/end of rant

JonathanAnon

The RTE lads should have put down the mic and camera and kicked the fk out of him..

Nodin

mickydoomsux wrote: »

I'm blaming an overly generous welfare state that pays a certain section of the population a living wage just to be a scumbag.

...................

Fascinating. You might then explain why the period before the welfare state sees a higher crime rate, where such exists.

KKkitty

Inject the cnuts with full blown AIDS and throw them in solitary confinement never to be seen again.

Nodin

prinz wrote: »

It's not off topic in so far as the two up for manslaughter will be back on the streets in the not so distant future and who do you think is going to pay their way in life? The same hardworking law abiding men and women, just like their murder victim. I have no problem with people on welfare support who need it and appreciate it. I have major problems with our state subsidising murderers and scumbags on the tab of the people the state should be protecting.

And what do you think many of those people who've done such things and subsequently been locked up for a few decades will do, with no access to welfare or aid from the state....? Become chartered accountants? Or maybe something in the arts....

DailyBlaa

This is why we need a death penalty. Why should the state pay millions to keep these behind bars for the rest of theirs lives. No rehabilitation is worth the effort for this scum. If we did we would have the usual BS rolled out that the state failed them by not giving them the education they needed or more wasnt done to help young kids grow up to be good citizens etc. They killed a man for the 'buzz' plain and simple. It is time for this soft justice system in Ireland to end.

lividduck

Funny how the Welfare State wasn't mentioned when the nice lads from the private school visciously kicked a lad to death outside annabelles nightclub a few years ago!

Den_M

If Judge Barry White saved your life or got you back with your ex-wife...

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If Judge Barry White saved your case or got you back with your headcase...

BackScrub

I remember the flak Eamon Dunphy took a few weeks ago for calling Ireland a dump.

I for one, find it very difficult to disagree with him.

Is there an actual number for the number of scumbags like this walking the streets with dozens if not hundreds of convictions?

I don't know about calls for the death penalty but surely a '3 strikes and you're out' law could apply in these cases. On the other hand, it makes my blood rot to waste perfectly good money keeping these mongs alive in prison.

When you look at what our politicians and councillors have been found up to this week, then little wonder people would call this place a dump.

Meanwhile, Alan Shatter is on the same news bulletin stating how terrible it is that the Collins family have to leave the country for their own protection.

YOU'RE THE MINISTER FOR JUSTICE, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT YOU GRADE A TOOL!!!!!!!!!

Meanwhile, my deepest sympathies to the family of Lukasz Rzeszutko. No doubt he was a better man than his murderers. Yes, murderers your honour.

prinz

Nodin wrote: »

And what do you think many of those people who've done such things and subsequently been locked up for a few decades will do, with no access to welfare or aid from the state....? Become chartered accountants? Or maybe something in the arts....

Why not? Or are you saying dependin on welfare is all they've got?

Turpentine

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

Shockng, and that's just up the road from where I'm from. The Tonlegee road isn't a bad part of Dublin ffs.
The same thing happened to an uncle of mine in '98, killers gave the fingers to the camera etc during the trial. Equally as disgusting as these louts. "Our" murderers got away with it on a technicality, at least this family has some sort of retribution for them. As others have said, I too am usually a liberal person but I think these people are animals and should be put down like a dog would be if they commited such behaviour. If we don't want to lower ourselves to the death penalty, they should at least be chemically castrated or they'll just produce more scum.

Chemically? No.

Rusty shears with no anesthetic? Yes.

MrJoeSoap

The law as it is protects nobody but scum like this.

*You kill a Garda in a car after a 30km chase at ridiculous speeds whilst drunk and disqualified (and show no remorse)... you get 7 years and put in an open prison on the border.

*You "dance" on an innocent human beings head for a "buzz", and you are let walk unaccompanied from the court, before being given a token manslaughter sentence.

*You dare to stand up to the people who murdered your son, and you're forced to leave the country to stay alive.

Nothing in this country pisses me off more than these out and out scumbags, career criminals who milk the state of welfare and cost us a fortune in prison costs. I'm all for human rights but if you cause deliberate harm to another human being which then causes that person to die, you're a murderer and the minimum sentence you should get is a mandatory life sentence.

RIP Lukasz Rzeszutko, Pawel Kalite, Marius Szwajkos, Roy Collins, Garda Gary McLoughlin and everyone else who has been killed in this country "for a buzz". Hopefully your deaths weren't in vain.

M cebee

DailyBlaa wrote: »

This is why we need a death penalty. Why should the state pay millions to keep these behind bars for the rest of theirs lives. No rehabilitation is worth the effort for this scum. If we did we would have the usual BS rolled out that the state failed them by not giving them the education they needed or more wasnt done to help young kids grow up to be good citizens etc. They killed a man for the 'buzz' plain and simple. It is time for this soft justice system in Ireland to end.

yes we might save money
in the us death costs more than life without parole
either way they should be off streets permanently

DailyBlaa

M cebee wrote: »

yes we might save money
in the us death costs more than life without parole
either way they should be off streets permanently

It costs money because of the legal issues which hold up cases years as evidence in many cases doesn't make it 100% clear. However in this case there is no disagreement over the facts of the crime. We know for certain they committed the crime so no appeals can ever be forthcoming as to their level of guilt.

red sean

I'd give them a "buzz" in the electric chair!

CaSCaDe711

Death to all Scummers, clean up the gene pool, those who remain deserve to remain. Goodnight

as125634do

sory i believe the lad in the two polish murders was stitched and fed aload of lies

Nodin

prinz wrote: »

Why not?

Well theres zero rehab in the prison system as is, and these are clearly not functioning in the "normal" range of bahviours.

So, again, tell me, what exactly do you think will happen if they're denied any form of benefit when they get out?

prinz

Nodin wrote: »

So, again, tell me, what exactly do you think will happen if they're denied any form of benefit when they get out?

Well Mammy looks like she's still willing to take care of them. After that they can end up face down in a ditch somewhere. Worrying about what will become of them really isn't hight up on my list of priorities. They should never again get outside a prison to begin with.. but no doubt you'll be up to hold their hands and worry about their rights and entitlements.

caitmb

What I cant understand is the judge adjourning sentencing?? Why? Just get it done and stop dragging it out for the victims family... They'll never get long enough in this country but get it over with. (unless they are importing chinese garlic that is....)