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    #32
    FouxDaFaFa
    Registered Users Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    I've been fuming since seeing this on the news. I just can't comprehend their defence. The three of you went out planning to rob someone and then "danced on his head" for "the buzz". Are you fcuking kidding?!

    Absolute scum. I hope they're all found guilty of murder.


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    #33
    1huge1
    Registered Users Posts: 6,171 ✭✭✭1huge1


    Nodin wrote: »
    The clip is here, btw.
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0326/rzeszutkol.html
    I feel sick watching that. May he RIP


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    #34
    AboutTwoFiddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭AboutTwoFiddy


    Castrated and locked up for good.


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    #35
    Rented Mule
    Registered Users Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Why is he allowed to walk out of a courtroom ?


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    #36
    kincsem
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭kincsem


    Perfect place for them.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inishark


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    #37
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,212 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Sorry, did that say they're being convicted of manslaughter? How is it not murder?

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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    #38
    Haelium
    Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭Haelium


    The court also heard that Byrne asked gardaí to arrest him because he did not want to be seen as a "rat".

    Oh, so being a rat goes against his principles but killing a man for the fun of it is grand.

    I hope he gets gangraped in prison and hangs himself in his cell, but he'll probably make good friends and have a laugh in prison.


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    #39
    The_Thing
    Registered Users Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭The_Thing


    For starters they should not be allowed to cover their faces in an attempt to hide their identity.


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    #40
    Gunmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    Its at times like this I ask....why did we get rid of the stocks? Just build one off a Gardai station somewhere, lock em in for a few hours a day during their term in prison(can have a schedule up online) and charge for fruit to pelt them with. Also a Gardai or two to stand there and make sure nobody does anything for "retaliation".

    As for "Oh but it would degrade their self esteem, the poor darlings", might do them some good to see how little people think of them when they commit sh*t like this!


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    #41
    Duggys Housemate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    Rented Mule wrote: »
    Why is he allowed to walk out of a courtroom ?

    There isn't a country in the world where a convicted manslaughter, or murderer is not taken in a paddy wagon, handcuffed with the lights on. Even if then to be released on bail - a bail which not be given in this case - prior to an appeal. Its about showing justice being done.

    And are they appealing? Didn't two plead guilty? I don't get this.


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    #42
    howamidifferent
    Registered Users Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭howamidifferent


    Should be sent to Poland to serve the sentence....:mad:


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    #43
    Haelium
    Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭Haelium


    ScienceNerd wrote: »
    Sorry, did that say they're being convicted of manslaughter? How is it not murder?
    Because apparently thinking about it beforehand makes it worse. Never understood that myself. Surely somebody who thinks about it and makes the decision to kill somebody for a reason is less of a danger to society than people who kill some randomer for the fun of it.


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    #44
    The_Thing
    Registered Users Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭The_Thing


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ke1OImPRYI


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    #45
    Duggys Housemate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    Rented Mule wrote: »
    Why is he allowed to walk out of a courtroom ?
    Haelium wrote: »
    Because apparently thinking about it beforehand makes it worse. Never understood that myself. Surely somebody who thinks about it and makes the decision to kill somebody for a reason is less of a danger to society than people who kill some randomer for the fun of it.

    WEll there is a "red-blooded" excuse. Humans can go over the top in certain situations, I am talking in general here.

    However, most countries would count this as murder. If they planned to attack, they premeditated the attack. And the attack led to a death. It wasn't as if the attack happened after a row, it was previously planned. Pre-meditation can be instant, in fact.

    From here:



    First degree murder is the killing of another with premeditation. Premeditation is a fully formed, conscious purpose to kill. One common misconception is that premeditation requires a plot or plan to kill. People conjure images of the serial killer stalking his victim for weeks before he finally kills her. While that would clearly be premeditation, the scope is not nearly so narrow. Premeditation can be formed in an instant. All that is necessary is that the person knew what he was doing and knew that the result would likely be death to the other person. That disgruntled employee who 'snaps' and kills his co-worker is guilty of first degree murder.


    The US would have fried these muppets, or sent them to jail for their actual life. All of it.


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    #46
    CiaranTheGreat
    Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭CiaranTheGreat


    ScienceNerd wrote: »
    Sorry, did that say they're being convicted of manslaughter? How is it not murder?
    I could be wrong but to convict of murder it must be proven that you planned to kill them. I could be wrong tho


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    #47
    Duggys Housemate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    CiaranTheGreat wrote: »
    I could be wrong but to convict of murder it must be proven that you planned to kill them. I could be wrong tho

    Apparantly only one guy planned to murder, the others came along for the manslaughter.


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    #48
    ColeTrain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    didn't it say that one had 50+ previous convictions?

    He should spend the rest of his life behind bars. No excuses, it's that simple.


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    #49
    mike65
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    Cardinal Richelieu wrote: »
    Should really be put on birth control for life or have the snip enforced upon them otherwise the ship will have more rats than crew.

    There is a whole strata of society that should be chemically castrated.


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    #50
    kinetic
    Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭kinetic


    1 of them has something like 55 previous convictions. Something wrong with the system here.


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    #51
    Galwayguy35
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    Not much remorse shown by the guy in the video and i dont know what to say about the blonde one roaring at the camera. And any appeal will be footed by us, the taxpayers as they will all get free legal aid.


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    #52
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,212 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    There was an element of pre-meditation in it though, as in they had planned out the attack. They say they only wanted to give him a few slaps, but we're hardly taking them at their word.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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    #53
    Duggys Housemate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    ScienceNerd wrote: »
    There was an element of pre-meditation in it though, as in they had planned out the attack. They say they only wanted to give him a few slaps, but we're hardly taking them at their word.

    Of course it was premeditation, and it makes no sense to convict one guy of murder, and not the others.


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    #54
    LH Pathe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    You mean the 'Original Rude Boys' that featured at the break? Can't believe that shìts being plugged. bedsit rapper accompanying shades wearing 'cool' dood on acoustic guitar is an Irish phenomenon


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    #55
    kwalshe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 959 ✭✭✭kwalshe


    I'm sure their mothers are very proud of them , w*n*ers....


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    #56
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,212 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    I find the attitude presented by these people as both fascinating and terrifying. Animalistic is the only word that comes to mind.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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    #57
    Ronan|Raven
    Registered Users Posts: 8,141 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    Words fail me. :(


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    #58
    Snake Plisken
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    Seriously this scum and the scum that seem to be running Limerick should be shot or hung, we seem to be very soft on serious crime in this country!


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    #59
    Coriolanus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    It's this kind of thing that is pushing me towards the right. And I used to be such a liberal...

    Imo, any action that was non accidental, could reasonably be expected to cause harm and results in a death should attract no less than 15 years. Don't call it murder or manslaughter, those words are too misconstrued by the public to be of use.


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    #60
    LH Pathe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    Savage


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    #61
    lividduck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭lividduck


    Repulsive little B*&*ards!
    An absolute advertisment for the return of Capital Punishment.


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