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What would you do with Tim Tebow?

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    #152
    Stev_o
    Registered Users Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    He'll be starting after the second game. He suits that market as well as the team philosophy especially now with Sporano and the whole Wildcat. Though how the hell you content with someone like Holmes is another question.


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    #153
    Hazys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    MrDisgruntled wrote: »
    Of course im for real. Tebow is a fifth tier player at best and Lin could perhaps be a third tier player but both have been such good media stories that they have got much more exposure than their talent warrants.

    Yes there is a lot of hype with both of them but they are not useless as you say.

    Tebow is 1st tier QB but i'd rank him to be in the bottom 4 of the top 32 QBs...certainly not 5th tier!

    Lin is a 1st tier guard, in the top 20 in the NBA.

    I know hype makes out to be the greatest players in their respective sports but they are still good players.


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    #154
    Syferus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭Syferus


    Hazys wrote: »
    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post?id=11210



    Lol i forgot earlier today Antonio Cromartie basically told Tebow to F off on twitter lol lol lol

    Thought that was way too negative. It is hard to see what the Jets were thinking picking up Drew Stanton but this really sets the Jets up with alot of options out of the game and makes sure that Mark Sanchez has to either show he's a good QB or be turfed out very early in the season. Ryan could be very much dead in the water if this season spirals linto the abyss like the last so it makes sense he'd roll the dice on Tebow. With good QB play the Jets can still be a very serious threat in the Superbowl stakes so upping the stakes on that front is no wrong thing to do.


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    #155
    spiralism
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    Jets are a good fit imo and we got a decent, if unspectacular price. The coverage and story around it should be epic though, cant wait to see this.

    Best of luck Tim and thanks for the memories, wish you all the best over there, just don't be too good that it makes us look stupid!


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    #156
    Stev_o
    Registered Users Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    Syferus wrote: »
    Thought that was wat too negative. It is hard to see what the Jets were thinking picking up Drew Stanton but this really sets the Jets up with alot of options out of the game and makes sure that Mark Sanchez has to either show he's a good QB or be turfed out very early in the season. Ryan could be very much dead in the water if this season spirals linto the abyss like the last so it makes sense he'd roll the dice on Tebow. With good QB play the Jets can still be a very serious threat in the Superbowl stakes so upping the stakes on that front is no wrong thing to do.

    If anything it suits them as a team. Run the clock like crazy and let the defence do it's thing. They need that running game to go back to where it was. Thing is though is there locker room is a disgusting thing, they NEED to trade Holmes to somebody and get a specialist receiver or a good draft pick to fill the void.


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    #157
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,204 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    MrDisgruntled wrote: »
    Of course im for real. Tebow is a fifth tier player at best and Lin could perhaps be a third tier player but both have been such good media stories that they have got much more exposure than their talent warrants.

    Lin is a starting calibre point guard in the NBA, and easily one of the best scoring PGs around.

    Part of his story was that people got it wrong on him. It wasn't pure hype. It was "this guy is actually good!"


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    #158
    GoldFour4
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,969 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    Tebow is there to take some of the media pressure off sanchez, the pressure he'll be under will be huge though


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    #159
    MrDisgruntled
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭MrDisgruntled


    Eli Manning wrote: »
    Are you for real?
    Hazys wrote: »
    Yes there is a lot of hype with both of them but they are not useless as you say.

    Tebow is 1st tier QB but i'd rank him to be in the bottom 4 of the top 32 QBs...certainly not 5th tier!

    Lin is a 1st tier guard, in the top 20 in the NBA.

    I know hype makes out to be the greatest players in their respective sports but they are still good players.

    Hold up! I'm not saying they are useless players?? And im not saying hes a 5th tier QB im saying hes a 5th tier player. Tier one being the really elite players, the game changers, no matter what the position, Tier 2 being great players but slightly below so on and so forth.

    I think Tebow will struggle to hold down a starting job at QB in the nfl. Hes a great athlete no doubt but perhaps not with an apt skill set for an NFL QB.

    Lin is also a very good player but you really think that he is among the top 20 players in the NBA? I wouldnt rank him anywhere in the top 50


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    #160
    GoldFour4
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    Jets players apparently not happy. Antonio Cromartie just tweeted this.
    Y bring Tebow in when we need to bring in more Weapons for @Mark_Sanchez let's build the team around him. We already signed to 3 year ext.


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    #161
    Hazys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    MrDisgruntled wrote: »
    Hold up! I'm not saying they are useless players?? And im not saying hes a 5th tier QB im saying hes a 5th tier player. Tier one being the really elite players, the game changers, no matter what the position, Tier 2 being great players but slightly below so on and so forth.

    I think Tebow will struggle to hold down a starting job at QB in the nfl. Hes a great athlete no doubt but perhaps not with an apt skill set for an NFL QB.

    Lin is also a very good player but you really think that he is among the top 20 players in the NBA? I wouldnt rank him anywhere in the top 50

    Top 20 guard...anyway we are going off topic.


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    #162
    Dodge
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    malachyscott wrote: »
    Jets players apparently not happy. Antonio Cromartie just tweeted this.

    he tweeted that before the trade in fairness


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    #163
    JaMarcus Hustle
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    Dodge wrote: »
    he tweeted that before the trade in fairness

    Antonio Cromartie - bastion of intelligence and beacon of sensibility.


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    #164
    Syferus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭Syferus


    malachyscott wrote: »
    Jets players apparently not happy. Antonio Cromartie just tweeted this.

    Cromartie =/= Jets

    Cromartie, for lack for a less awesome word, is a complete looper.


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    #165
    Shane St.
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    Excuse my ignorance I'm very much a casual NFL fan. What is the hype and hysteria with this guy? Is he good?


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    #166
    Hazys
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    Shane St. wrote: »
    Excuse my ignorance I'm very much a casual NFL fan. What is the hype and hysteria with this guy? Is he good?

    He is the second coming of Jesus.


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    #167
    Shane St.
    Registered Users Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭Shane St.


    Hazys wrote: »
    He is the second coming of Jesus.

    LOL no seriously though there is so much hype around him. What is it all about?


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    #168
    eagle eye
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    Shane St. wrote: »
    LOL no seriously though there is so much hype around him. What is it all about?
    He is one of the greatest college footballers ever. He is a megastar in the USA. He doesn't have the skillset associated with being a QB in the NFL but he took over a team as starter on a team that was 1-4 last year and led them to the playoffs.

    He is the most talked about player in the NFL to date. He sold more jersies last season than all except Aaron Rodgers who led the Packers to the Superbowl in February that year.


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    #169
    LuckyLloyd
    Registered Users Posts: 36,219 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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    GET THE **** OFF MY TEAM

    **** YOU WOODY
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    AH!!!! :mad:


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    #170
    JaMarcus Hustle
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    God forbid Mark Sanchez should have some real competition and stop being coddled like a baby and wrapped in cotton wool for the remainder of his vastly expensive contract.


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    #171
    LuckyLloyd
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    JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »
    God forbid Mark Sanchez should have some real competition and stop being coddled like a baby and wrapped in cotton wool for the remainder of his vastly expensive contract.

    Tebow is rubbish. We had one QB that will need to be cut in two year's time. Now we have two! There is a half decent roster here, now we bring in a pointless circus.

    Tebow sucks, and any franchise trying to win has no business involving themselves with him.


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    #172
    Syferus
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    Lol.


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    #173
    McG
    Registered Users Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭McG


    Sanchez or Tebow.... I guess there's always somebody out there worse off than you... suddenly I don't feel so bad being a Colts fan.


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    #174
    Phoenix Park
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    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Tebow is rubbish. We had one QB that will need to be cut in two year's time. Now we have two! There is a half decent roster here, now we bring in a pointless circus.

    Tebow sucks, and any franchise trying to win has no business involving themselves with him.

    Thats harsh and to be honest you might be overestimating the Jets to suggest they deserve much better right now!. Tebow won't make a top quality QB but he can bring pressure to Sanchez which is needed. Sanchez has been wrapped in cotton wool as a poster above pointed out, i'm fascinated to see how long he lasts once the fans get on his back (a game? two games? five minutes??)

    Tebow comes accross as an absolute gent and he conducted himself with great dignity throughout the Manning affair. I wish him all the best in NY.


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    #175
    Chucky the tree
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    JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »
    God forbid Mark Sanchez should have some real competition and stop being coddled like a baby and wrapped in cotton wool for the remainder of his vastly expensive contract.


    Why give him a new contract then? The whole situation has been handled terribly by the Jets.


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    #176
    Danger_dave1
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    As a Tebow fan and a New York Jets fans. I have conflicted emotions. One thing's for sure Tebow will no doubt help an already conflicted dressing room. Things will at least be more interesting as a Jets fans.

    Long live Tebow!

    J-E-T-S Jets! Jets! Jets!


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    #177
    Danger_dave1
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    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    Why give him a new contract then? The whole situation has been handled terribly by the Jets.

    The contract extension was nothing more than a way to create more cap room. The deal give Sanchez an extra 2million and just restructures his contract to allow him to stay till 2013 and if we want to cut him at the start of 2013 it costs us nothing.


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    #178
    JaMarcus Hustle
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    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    Why give him a new contract then? The whole situation has been handled terribly by the Jets.

    To free up cap space. The terms of the new contract don't change anything re: getting rid of Sanchez if they need to.


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    #179
    themont85
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    Tebow deal could be off according to Schefter.

    Filed to ESPN (1): Denver and Jets have encountered hangup in language in Tim Tebow's contract that could nullify trade.


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    #180
    Jolly Red Giant
    Registered Users Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Jolly Red Giant


    themont85 wrote: »
    Tebow deal could be off according to Schefter.
    Never a dull moment with Tebow - clearly he wants to go to Florida - up to the Jags or Miami to pony up a 4th rounder +


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    #181
    FreeOSCAR
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    Let's hold the presses for the moment.
    Trade could be nullified. The Jets would owe Denver recapture money of around 5million. Might be unwilling to pay it.

    Same thing I said about Tebow last night. I'm happy for anybody to come in to breathe down Sanchez's neck.
    I don't see how there can be any real downside to the trade if it goes fully. We are getting him for a 4th rounder, his contract is cheapish and him along with Sanchez will make the Jets much harder to plan against than last year IMO. The only real haters are people who still call Mark the Sanchize and disgruntled AFC East fans who love Timmy.


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