What would you do with Tim Tebow?

Hazys

The fallout of the What would you do with Peyton Manning? thread...it could possibly be a bigger thread, not joking

What do you think the Broncos get for him? and where does he endup?

I'm thinking they're going to have to cut him, i dont see many teams wanting to trade for him even if they have a half stable QB position because of the sheer hysteria that follows him.

Even if the Jags trade for or sign him, it mean Glabbert will never get a chance and even if the does and plays well, the fans are going to scream for Tebow not matter what. Although the Jags new owner Khan did say he would have drafted him if he was the owner back then.

Stev_o

It'll end up the "Tebow Team Thread" just like last time :rolleyes:

Anyway my opinion is pretty is that he either starts or he's not worth the distraction that your going to get. Jags makes the most sense given the complete lack of talent they have across the board, an option offence would elevate their offence.

Syferus

Broncos will get something for him, he's a young, hugely popular, character guy with exceptional intangibles. Play him correctly and let him grow and you've got yourself the makings of a franchise QB. Someone's going to bite. Miami and the Jags are the obvious candidates, but who knows what Cleveland are thinking? McCoy and Tebow competing for the same job. College fan fiction come true.

Hazys

Stev_o wrote: »

It'll end up the "Tebow Team Thread" just like last time :rolleyes:

Anyway my opinion is pretty is that he either starts or he's not worth the distraction that your going to get. Jags makes the most sense given the complete lack of talent they have across the board, an option offence would elevate their offence.

Ya i dont mind where this thread ends up but i wanted to have a poll to see what people think theyll get for him.

What are the possible options? Jags? Dolphins? anybody else a legit possibility?

Dolphins possibly as they have nobody in the QB position now and the owner Ross is probably panicking that he has to sign somebody after the way the offseason is gone.

spiralism

Dolphins probably, they're in a bad way at QB and it would get most of the state of Florida behind him. Maybe Cleveland to galvanise the fanbase but i hope for Tebow's sake he doesn't go there, it's where careers go to die.

Watch Jeff Ireland blow this up on Miami by insulting Tebow's faith in a conversation or something now.

DDC1990

Option offence with MJD be fairly impressive. Could get the Jags an extra win or 2.

Miami most likely candidate however. Having Seemingly lost out on Flynn, Manning and as a result Smith :P

Benimar

spiralism wrote: »

Dolphins probably, they're in a bad way at QB and it would get most of the state of Florida behind him. Maybe Cleveland to galvanise the fanbase but i hope for Tebow's sake he doesn't go there, it's where careers go to die.

Watch Jeff Ireland blow this up on Miami by insulting Tebow's faith in a conversation or something now.

Most Dolphin fans don't want him, so Ireland will probably screw this up by actually getting him to sign :rolleyes:

spiralism

Benimar wrote: »

Most Dolphin fans don't want him, so Ireland will probably screw this up by actually getting him to sign :rolleyes:

In that case i'm looking forward to seeing your first round pick for Tebow then

Benimar

spiralism wrote: »

In that case i'm looking forward to seeing your first round pick for Tebow then

I would laugh but with Ross and Ireland you just never know.

titan18

Can't see it being the Browns with Holmgren there, and Dolphins and Jags is possible only if their owners overrule the coaches. He'll get traded but not sure if he's starting somewhere

HigginsJ

Hard to see any team trading too much for him. They might get a 3rd round pick for him. I think when the initial hype dies down he will stay with the Broncos. They will give him maybe 5 play a game. It will help protect/prolong Mannings time there and keep Tebow happy. They already have the option playbook for him so why throw it all away.

There still has to be question mark over Manning and they'll need a plan B just in case he gets injured.

Syferus

The Broncos ARE actively trading him. And he's going to be starting come week one.

Anyone who thinks different is letting their personal opinions of Tebow cloud their judgement.

Paully D

Jaguars for a 2nd round pick, IMO.

mikemac1

He cost a second, third and fourth when McDaniels did the deal with the Ravens

Trade to the Jags but they'd be doing well to get a third

Hazys

His value depends on demand.

If only one team wants him he'll just get cut as the Broncos dont want to drag it out.

If two teams want him, which I'm skeptical off, their could be a bidding war but i dont see the 'war' going higher than a 3rd.

Justin10

The market for Tebow is tiny.

Any team interested just need to sit back and let the Broncos make a mistake.

He could be easily be got for a 4-5th round pick.

Danger_dave1

Hazys wrote: »

His value depends on demand.

If only one team wants him he'll just get cut as the Broncos dont want to drag it out.

If two teams want him, which I'm skeptical off, their could be a bidding war but i dont see the 'war' going higher than a 3rd.

+1 Can't see anything but a 3 round pick. What team will give more? Will the dolphins see Tebow as a massive upgrade on Matt Moore?

The Jaguars are different, gabbert seems timid in the pocket, but are they ready to give up on him? Will the owner push a tebow deal. If so the broncos will be lucky to get a second rounder for him.

Is there any other team remotely interested in Tebow to come into there team? The browns? Again what would they be willing to give up?

Syferus

The Dolphins need something to energise their base and distract from their utter failures over the past year. They need to believe in Tebow as a player, though, or it'd be pointless. There's plenty of people out there that see a spark in Tebow.

UCD AFC

If they can get a 4th or under round pick, trade. Otherwise keep him for some special package/ trick plays

eagle eye

I think Belichick might want him. We have a lot of things that make it realistic that they will go after him. Belichick likes good character guys and Tebow is that, Belichick likes players with good leadership qualities and Tebow certainly has that, Belichick likes players that work hard on their game and again Tebow is that.

Then you go Josh McDaniels who drafted Tebow in the first round and I'm sure he'd love to have him in New Engalnd. McDaniels works very well with QBs. Look at what he did with Matt Cassel and then with Kyle Orton.

We already know that Belichick likes Tebow and had a visit with him and a private workout before the draft. Personally I'd love to see him with the Patriots even if its only for deep red zone plays. Last year when I seen Brady getting drilled by Ray Lewis on a QB dive where he scored I was so worried. As it turned out he was fine after it but having somebody to do that stuff instead of Brady would be great.

If Tebow is willing to switch position then I think there would be a lot of teams interested in him. I think he would make an awesome H-back/wildcat QB.

mikemac1

Have to trade away Hoyer first

Not sure what you'd get for him

He looked good against the Bucs in Wembley

Syferus

No chance of Tebow playing for a team trying to use him as anything but a real QB, he's certainly earned that respect this past year.

ReacherCreature

mikemac1 wrote: »

Have to trade away Hoyer first

Not sure what you'd get for him

He looked good against the Bucs in Wembley

Hoyer's on the trading block iirc. Looking at a 1st/2nd round pick.

eagle eye

ReacherCreature wrote: »

Hoyer's on the trading block iirc. Looking at a 1st/2nd round pick.

Hoyer hasn't been resigned yet. He is a RFA this year.

vetinari

I'd say he's either cut or he's kept. Broncos will probably want a 2nd round pick and everyone else is going to play the waiting game. If the Broncos don't want him, they'll have to cut him.

HigginsJ

eagle eye wrote: »

I think Belichick might want him. We have a lot of things that make it realistic that they will go after him. Belichick likes good character guys and Tebow is that, Belichick likes players with good leadership qualities and Tebow certainly has that, Belichick likes players that work hard on their game and again Tebow is that.

Then you go Josh McDaniels who drafted Tebow in the first round and I'm sure he'd love to have him in New Engalnd. McDaniels works very well with QBs. Look at what he did with Matt Cassel and then with Kyle Orton.

We already know that Belichick likes Tebow and had a visit with him and a private workout before the draft. Personally I'd love to see him with the Patriots even if its only for deep red zone plays. Last year when I seen Brady getting drilled by Ray Lewis on a QB dive where he scored I was so worried. As it turned out he was fine after it but having somebody to do that stuff instead of Brady would be great.

If Tebow is willing to switch position then I think there would be a lot of teams interested in him. I think he would make an awesome H-back/wildcat QB.

Thats all well and good and your not the 1st person to mention Pats trading for him but I am wondering if contract value could be a huge stumbling block if someone wants him to be something rather than a QB.

What are you going to be willing to pay a guy who will only be a special package/wild cat/trick play guy. He is going into year 3 of a 5 yr $33 million dollar contract. No-one is going to trade that for a guy who might be a running back but you'd have no idea if he could be or not.

As an outside shot how about the Eagles. Could make sense as they need viable back up to Vick who'll get to play at least 5 games next season going on Vicks injury record.

UnitedIrishman

I reckon the Jags make a move for him before the Broncos cut him. Shahid Khan was fairly sweet on an attempt to trade for him if he became available according to reports.

If he does get cut, there'll no doubt be a good few sides willing to give him a try and see if they can improve his skills.

eagle eye

HigginsJ wrote: »

Thats all well and good and your not the 1st person to mention Pats trading for him but I am wondering if contract value could be a huge stumbling block if someone wants him to be something rather than a QB.

What are you going to be willing to pay a guy who will only be a special package/wild cat/trick play guy. He is going into year 3 of a 5 yr $33 million dollar contract. No-one is going to trade that for a guy who might be a running back but you'd have no idea if he could be or not.

As an outside shot how about the Eagles. Could make sense as they need viable back up to Vick who'll get to play at least 5 games next season going on Vicks injury record.

His contract is not worth $33 million, that figure included targets that he was never going to achieve in Denver and a lot of them are Denver specific which don't go forward to another team.

As of now his contract for the next three years is this,

• 2012: $1.942.5 million (fully guaranteed)
• 2013: $2.266.75 million (fully guaranteed)
• 2014: $2.590.5 million ($567,500 guaranteed)

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

I think Belichick might want him. We have a lot of things that make it realistic that they will go after him. Belichick likes good character guys and Tebow is that, Belichick likes players with good leadership qualities and Tebow certainly has that, Belichick likes players that work hard on their game and again Tebow is that.

Then you go Josh McDaniels who drafted Tebow in the first round and I'm sure he'd love to have him in New Engalnd. McDaniels works very well with QBs. Look at what he did with Matt Cassel and then with Kyle Orton.

We already know that Belichick likes Tebow and had a visit with him and a private workout before the draft. Personally I'd love to see him with the Patriots even if its only for deep red zone plays. Last year when I seen Brady getting drilled by Ray Lewis on a QB dive where he scored I was so worried. As it turned out he was fine after it but having somebody to do that stuff instead of Brady would be great.

If Tebow is willing to switch position then I think there would be a lot of teams interested in him. I think he would make an awesome H-back/wildcat QB.

i dont think so i like mallet and i think the pats do as well no need for 3 starting qbs at a team

mikemac1

HigginsJ wrote: »

As an outside shot how about the Eagles. Could make sense as they need viable back up to Vick who'll get to play at least 5 games next season going on Vicks injury record.

That have Mike Kafka who looks a very good young QB

Ok they brought in Vince Young last season on a handsome contract but Kafka seems good enough to be the backup

mikemac1

mikemac1 wrote: »

That have Mike Kafka who looks a very good young QB

Ok they brought in Vince Young last season on a handsome contract but Kafka seems good enough to be the backup

i like kafka and i feel he should have been starting instead of young last year but if we can get tebow in for a year or 2 and see what andy ried can do with him i can see either him improving as a passer like vick did or at the very least see him over performing and making another team overpay for him ala aj feely and kevin kolb.
for me it all comes down to the price a 3rd rounder may be worth a shot anything above that forget it

Syferus

I would kinda love the poetic beauty of Tebow arriving in Jacksonville and ending Chad Henne's mighty reign at the Jaguars after all of seven days. Back before Tebow was drafted Henne, himself only having played a handful of games very, very averagely, was asked about Tebow and said "He's not an NFL quarterback. I'll leave it at that.".

It struck me as one of the most classless things I've ever seen in the league, a young QB throwing another QB under the bus a few weeks before his draft. He certainly wasn't someone who should have been throwing stones.

Maybe God works in mysterious ways. Ahem. Amen.

Chardee MacDennis

UCD AFC wrote: »

If they can get a 4th or under round pick, trade. Otherwise keep him for some special package/ trick plays

not sure he's worth the hassle and attention to be honest!

Johnny_Fontane

wouldnt that be interesting to see him go to the Pats? I for one, just want to see him play, anywhere.

He's pure box office.

helimachoptor

Where do you guys think he Tebow could realistically play and actually make an impact positionally I mean?

spiralism

Incarcerated Bob on Twitter saying that Jags owner Shahid Khan has told his front office to get Tebow in. Despite the fact that they weren't sold on Tebow and one of their linemen, Uche Nwaneri was very critical of Tebow prior to his drafting two years back, their hands may be tied on this.

IB is a reliable source, he had Manning to Broncos all week after the visit and broke the decision news a good 12 hours before it was reported. He's 11/12 this offseason on FA predictions.

Khan doing this makes sense, he wants to keep the team in Jville and make a few bob in the process naturally and the only way to do that is by getting Tebow in. I don't think he gives a flying **** how Tebow performs, this is business to him, he'd be looking at instant sellouts and media attention. I love the idea cause chances are we'd fleece them for Tebow if they wanted him enough. Watch this space...

Stev_o

spiralism wrote: »

Incarcerated Bob on Twitter saying that Jags owner Shahid Khan has told his front office to get Tebow in. Despite the fact that they weren't sold on Tebow and one of their linemen, Uche Nwaneri was very critical of Tebow prior to his drafting two years back, their hands may be tied on this.

IB is a reliable source, he had Manning to Broncos all week after the visit and broke the decision news a good 12 hours before it was reported. He's 11/12 this offseason on FA predictions.

Khan doing this makes sense, he wants to keep the team in Jville and make a few bob in the process naturally and the only way to do that is by getting Tebow in. I don't think he gives a flying **** how Tebow performs, this is business to him, he'd be looking at instant sellouts and media attention. I love the idea cause chances are we'd fleece them for Tebow if they wanted him enough. Watch this space...

Tbh they are the only team that fits Tebow anyway, a big O Line, a fantastic TE and one of the best RB's in the league. Problem is they don't have a defence that can last being on the field so long.

spiralism

Stev_o wrote: »

Tbh they are the only team that fits Tebow anyway, a big O Line, a fantastic TE and one of the best RB's in the league. Problem is they don't have a defence that can last being on the field so long.

I'd be happy with that, i'm up for him to do well as long as it doesnt come home to roost and it being his hometown team would be a nice touch. Good chance Khan overpays too and we get more pieces for Manning.

eagle eye

Stev_o wrote: »

Tbh they are the only team that fits Tebow anyway, a big O Line, a fantastic TE and one of the best RB's in the league. Problem is they don't have a defence that can last being on the field so long.

Last how long? Are you suggesting that with Tebow at QB that they are going to spend more time on the field because thats wrong. The Broncos were 23rd on time of possession in 2010 with Orton at QB. Through the first 5 games of 2011 with Orton as starter the Broncos were the second worst team in the NFL on time of possession having the ball for on average 26.43 minutes per game. Through the remaing 11 games the Broncos had the ball for 30.43 mins per game which would leave them 11th best in the NFL. This is clearly because of the gameplan adopted by the Broncos while having Tebow at QB. It clearly also helped the defense to perform at a higher level as they weren't on the field for as long.

In 2010 through the last 3 games with Tebow at QB, the Broncos jumped to 10th best.

HigginsJ

Axl Kind Rectangle wrote: »

i like kafka and i feel he should have been starting instead of young last year but if we can get tebow in for a year or 2 and see what andy ried can do with him i can see either him improving as a passer like vick did or at the very least see him over performing and making another team overpay for him ala aj feely and kevin kolb.
for me it all comes down to the price a 3rd rounder may be worth a shot anything above that forget it

Not having a go but when Kafta was on the field last season he was awful. Genuinely he is not a back up qb. 3rd stringer at best.

Syferus

Kafka was fine in what I saw of him last year, definitely no worse than Vince Young performed.

Stev_o

eagle eye wrote: »

Last how long? Are you suggesting that with Tebow at QB that they are going to spend more time on the field because thats wrong. The Broncos were 23rd on time of possession in 2010 with Orton at QB. Through the first 5 games of 2011 with Orton as starter the Broncos were the second worst team in the NFL on time of possession having the ball for on average 26.43 minutes per game. Through the remaing 11 games the Broncos had the ball for 30.43 mins per game which would leave them 11th best in the NFL. This is clearly because of the gameplan adopted by the Broncos while having Tebow at QB. It clearly also helped the defense to perform at a higher level as they weren't on the field for as long.

In 2010 through the last 3 games with Tebow at QB, the Broncos jumped to 10th best.

Your man love knows no bounds. Do you honestly think Tebow is going to record any of those stats with the Jags if we went there?

Get real.

HigginsJ

HigginsJ wrote: »

Not having a go but when Kafta was on the field last season he was awful. Genuinely he is not a back up qb. 3rd stringer at best.

i think its hard to say either way to be honest what little i saw impressed me obviously it didn't impress you i think its mostly guesswork with him until we see more

Syferus

With a WR the Jags would be an objectively better team than last year's Broncos, so yes, he's well within reason.

HigginsJ

Syferus wrote: »

Kafka was fine in what I saw of him last year, definitely no worse than Vince Young performed.

107 passing yards, 0 td's, 2 int's.

vince youngs play had to be seen to be believed i liked him at the titans but he was terrible worse that curtis painter

eagle eye

Stev_o wrote: »

Your man love knows no bounds. Do you honestly think Tebow is going to record any of those stats with the Jags if we went there?

Get real.

My oh my, can you not even work out why? Its because they run the ball a lot with Tebow, you know what difference that makes? The clock doesn't stop running when you stay inbouncs which happens way more often on running plays. Thats going to happen no matter where Tebow goes.

I can't believe you came out with a stupid comment like that.

Jolly Red Giant

spiralism wrote: »

Incarcerated Bob on Twitter

Incarcerated Bob is a spoofer - he tweets about stuff that is obvious and then claims he had a scoop.

Jolly Red Giant

Apparently five teams have already enquired about Tebow - so much for nobody being interested.

Rumoured teams - although its not rocket science to come up with these - New England, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Miami and Jacksonville - Buffalo also a possibility.

adrian522

Tebow ? Really? Hopefully Smith signs sooner rather than later..

Adam Schefter wrote:

Three teams to monitor as trade talks for Tim Tebow pick up: Jacksonville, Green Bay, San Francisco.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 20, 2012

Chucky the tree

Green bay must be looking to turn him into a tight end or use him in situation plays.