PRSI Refund

xii

Anybody have an idea how to calculate this?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0130/prsi.html

Tens of thousands of workers are due a refund for overpaying their PRSI.
The Department of Social Protection has confirmed that €10m has already been paid back to taxpayers, who have received an average refund of €400.
The overcharging is due to the way the health levy element of social insurance was applied in 2010.
Anyone earning less than €26,000 was not liable to pay the levy.
However, if a person earned more than €500 a week the levy was automatically deducted from their pay. This means that they are due money back.
The Department of Social Protection insisted this is not an error and it said the system was set up to deduct PRSI on a weekly basis and workers could later apply to get the money refunded.
However, the refund is not automatic and the Consumers' Association of Ireland is advising people to check their payslips and apply to the Department if they think they are due money back.
It is not yet known how many people may be entitled to claim, but 900,000 people earned below the €26,000 threshold in 2010.
The address for refunds is: Department of Social Protection, PRSI Refunds Section, Oisin House, Pearse Street, Dublin 2.

Tzardine

Bump. I am interested to find this out too

xii

TBH it was a poorly written article, it reads anyone earning over 500pw are due a refund.

From watching the report on the TV it's a bit clearer now, the only way you can get a refund is scenario like this

51 weeks @ 501
1 week @ 448
Yearly Total 25999

You would have paid the health levy for 51 weeks but because your annual salary was below 26000 this wil be refunded.

51 weeks @ 501
1 week @ 449
Yearly Total 26000

No refund

Tzardine

Thanks for that. That's a nice clear explanation but there is a problem with it ..........

No refund for me :-(

I thought it said if you earned more than 500 pw you would get a refund . Lol

xii wrote: »

TBH it was a poorly written article, it reads anyone earning over 500pw are due a refund.

From watching the report on the TV it's a bit clearer now, the only way you can get a refund is scenario like this

51 weeks @ 501
1 week @ 448
Yearly Total 25999

You would have paid the health levy for 51 weeks but because your annual salary was below 26000 this wil be refunded.

51 weeks @ 501
1 week @ 449
Yearly Total 26000

No refund

supernova84

Who should you contact for this? Local revenue office seems best bet, surely they can calculate if you're due a refund and I have all my payslips for 2010. Sending a letter to that pearse st address seems a bit pointless.

relax carry on

supernova84 wrote: »

Who should you contact for this? Local revenue office seems best bet, surely they can calculate if you're due a refund and I have all my payslips for 2010. Sending a letter to that pearse st address seems a bit pointless.

It's the DSP not Revenue who deal with this.

blue movie

I got my refund in the post today. I was a bit unsure about it at first and it was a nice surprise this morning when i opened the post. I applied in november and a few other people i know done the same. Seems to take around 3 months and not everyone i know was entitled to a refund but luckily i was. I sent a letter quoting my pps number and asking for a review of my prsi payments from 2007-2011.

PRSI Refunds Section,
Department of Social Protection,
Oisin House,
212-213 Pearse Street,
Dublin 2.

xii

wrote:

I thought it said if you earned more than 500 pw you would get a refund . Lol

It does, however it's untrue, Internship season at Donnybrook one hopes.

supernova84

http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Topics/PRSI/Pages/refundhealthlevy.aspx

bfocusd

I sent mine in around July, then got a letter end of august saying they had no prsi details for 3 of the years and in 2010 I know for sure I'm due a refund, that's the only year they have info for, but they say I'm not owed anything.

so I got a yearly breakdown of all earnings, tax and prsi deducted, sent it in start of Sept, from my calculations 3 out of 4 years I'm owed a refund, but I haven't heard a thing from them, I rang but they said I'm being calculated by staff and not by the online system, so they can't tell me true status

Does anyone know what or who I can contact to see what's happening

MB Lacey

blue movie wrote: »

I got my refund in the post today. I was a bit unsure about it at first and it was a nice surprise this morning when i opened the post. I applied in november and a few other people i know done the same. Seems to take around 3 months and not everyone i know was entitled to a refund but luckily i was. I sent a letter quoting my pps number and asking for a review of my prsi payments from 2007-2011.

Cool, that's exactly what I did - sent letter Nov 18th to same address as yourself, but I haven't heard anything yet.
When I saw the news today I rang the number for PRSI Refunds (Tel 01-6732586), I rang twice - no reply either time - but seeing your post maybe there'll be a letter from them in the post by the end of the week.

PEACEBROTHER

What details do you put on letter ?

Name ? Address ? D.O.B ? PPS number ?

bfocusd

PEACEBROTHER wrote: »

What details do you put on letter ?

Name ? Address ? D.O.B ? PPS number ?

Phone number too, that's it really

PEACEBROTHER

bfocusd wrote: »

Phone number too, that's it really

Sorry another question is it free post ?

glasses16

Hi XII. Does this mean I can apply for a refund even if my wages were below €500 per week, my earnings for the year were about €20,000 and can one apply for a refund for years previous to 2010. Thanks

19driver83

If your earnings were under 26K for any year between 2007 & 2010 fill in the attached!

If unsure, fill it in anyway...nothing to loose!

PEACEBROTHER

19driver83 wrote: »

If your earnings were under 26K for any year between 2007 & 2010 fill in the attached!

If unsure, fill it in anyway...nothing to loose!

Cheers ,
Is it free post ?

19driver83

PEACEBROTHER wrote: »

Cheers ,
Is it free post ?

No idea....I splashed out on the price of a stamp and gained €380 for year 2007 as I only worked half the year and my total earnings were under 26K.

PEACEBROTHER

19driver83 wrote: »

No idea....I splashed out on the price of a stamp and gained €380 for year 2007 as I only worked half the year and my total earnings were under 26K.

Cheers ,
I wasnt near a shop so just threw it in hoping it was freepost,
Ill just send another one tomorrow with stamp.
Any idea what happens with Post with no stamp ?

blingrhino

Does the Prsi refund situation include self employed people who earn over €500 ?

supernova84

19driver83 wrote: »

If your earnings were under 26K for any year between 2007 & 2010 fill in the attached!

If unsure, fill it in anyway...nothing to loose!

As we are now in 2012, you can't apply for a refund for 2007, only 2008-2010 as 2007 is now outside the 4 year time limit. Read attached.

http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Topics/PRSI/Pages/refundhealthlevy.aspx

An Ri rua

relax carry on wrote: »

It's the DSP not Revenue who deal with this.

DSP is the more straightforward route, yes, but you CAN also go through Revenue. See AAM for more. Can't find the link now? But BB said that contact through Revenu CAN initiate it.

An Ri rua

supernova84 wrote: »

As we are now in 2012, you can't apply for a refund for 2007, only 2008-2010 as 2007 is now outside the 4 year time limit. Read attached.

http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Topics/PRSI/Pages/refundhealthlevy.aspx

Its a pity that RTE and also the Consumer's Association of ireland didn't run with this story pre Christmas 2011. Now a lot of people are down their 2007 entitlement. I know its not their jobs, but seeing as these refund threads are circulating a while now (from 2009 on AAM) after I've researched a bit, it feels like the DSP were approached by a reporter and told to hold off on the story til the New year. After all, it says on the DSP website that this info is an update to info it had available on the website since Nov 2011. Why not sooner and also how visible was it? Was the button where it now prominently is??

Hmmm.

I'm now looking into my Income levy claims with Revenue. The snakes .... :-D

Goldstein

Apologies for the stupid question but can't find the answer anywhere. The figures they are quoting €500/pw, 26k/year etc. - are they talking about gross or net amounts?

19driver83

Goldstein wrote: »

Apologies for the stupid question but can't find the answer anywhere. The figures they are quoting €500/pw, 26k/year etc. - are they talking about gross or net amounts?

Gross

supernova84

There's also a site that specialise in tax refunds.

http://www.redoaktaxrefunds.ie/tax-refund-calculator-ireland

They would probably get your refund quicker but they look for a commission of 12 or 18% if due a refund so it's probably best just waiting for DSP.

An Ri rua

19driver83 wrote: »

Gross

@Goldstein It clearly says 'earned'. You earned the gross amount and then you pay your taxes and other deductions from what you've earned.

An Ri rua

It says on the Irish daily mail today that of 43,000 who have applied and been processed so far, 17,000 weren't owed a thing.

That's serious time-wasting by those f**kin ejits when others have a legitimate claim. How could 17,000 people be so stupid as to not understand the terms? I could understand 5 or 10%. But 17,000 ginits ??

An Ri rua

19driver83 wrote: »

If your earnings were under 26K for any year between 2007 & 2010 fill in the attached!

If unsure, fill it in anyway...nothing to loose!

That's serious bull****. Just check the basic facts, they're not hard to understand, and don't apply for things that you clearly don't have a claim on. That would be better advice to be giving out to fellow citizens. There are people who are due THEIR money back and could do without daft timewasting by other clueless citizens.

BohsCeltic

I rang them up and they are currently only processing applications that were received in October.
They might put your request in a priority file if your nice to them.

Geuze

Note that this refers to refunds of the Health Levy.

It only applies if you earned less than 26k gross pa, and if during some weeks you earned more than 500 pw.

The Health Levy was included with PRSI on payslips, not itemised separately.