PRSI Refund

xii

Anybody have an idea how to calculate this?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0130/prsi.html

Tens of thousands of workers are due a refund for overpaying their PRSI.
The Department of Social Protection has confirmed that €10m has already been paid back to taxpayers, who have received an average refund of €400.
The overcharging is due to the way the health levy element of social insurance was applied in 2010.
Anyone earning less than €26,000 was not liable to pay the levy.
However, if a person earned more than €500 a week the levy was automatically deducted from their pay. This means that they are due money back.
The Department of Social Protection insisted this is not an error and it said the system was set up to deduct PRSI on a weekly basis and workers could later apply to get the money refunded.
However, the refund is not automatic and the Consumers' Association of Ireland is advising people to check their payslips and apply to the Department if they think they are due money back.
It is not yet known how many people may be entitled to claim, but 900,000 people earned below the €26,000 threshold in 2010.
The address for refunds is: Department of Social Protection, PRSI Refunds Section, Oisin House, Pearse Street, Dublin 2.

Tzardine

Bump. I am interested to find this out too

xii

TBH it was a poorly written article, it reads anyone earning over 500pw are due a refund.

From watching the report on the TV it's a bit clearer now, the only way you can get a refund is scenario like this

51 weeks @ 501
1 week @ 448
Yearly Total 25999

You would have paid the health levy for 51 weeks but because your annual salary was below 26000 this wil be refunded.

51 weeks @ 501
1 week @ 449
Yearly Total 26000

No refund

Tzardine

Thanks for that. That's a nice clear explanation but there is a problem with it ..........

No refund for me :-(

I thought it said if you earned more than 500 pw you would get a refund . Lol

xii wrote: »

TBH it was a poorly written article, it reads anyone earning over 500pw are due a refund.

From watching the report on the TV it's a bit clearer now, the only way you can get a refund is scenario like this

51 weeks @ 501
1 week @ 448
Yearly Total 25999

You would have paid the health levy for 51 weeks but because your annual salary was below 26000 this wil be refunded.

51 weeks @ 501
1 week @ 449
Yearly Total 26000

No refund

supernova84

Who should you contact for this? Local revenue office seems best bet, surely they can calculate if you're due a refund and I have all my payslips for 2010. Sending a letter to that pearse st address seems a bit pointless.

relax carry on

supernova84 wrote: »

Who should you contact for this? Local revenue office seems best bet, surely they can calculate if you're due a refund and I have all my payslips for 2010. Sending a letter to that pearse st address seems a bit pointless.

It's the DSP not Revenue who deal with this.

blue movie

I got my refund in the post today. I was a bit unsure about it at first and it was a nice surprise this morning when i opened the post. I applied in november and a few other people i know done the same. Seems to take around 3 months and not everyone i know was entitled to a refund but luckily i was. I sent a letter quoting my pps number and asking for a review of my prsi payments from 2007-2011.

PRSI Refunds Section,
Department of Social Protection,
Oisin House,
212-213 Pearse Street,
Dublin 2.

xii

wrote:

I thought it said if you earned more than 500 pw you would get a refund . Lol

It does, however it's untrue, Internship season at Donnybrook one hopes.

supernova84

http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Topics/PRSI/Pages/refundhealthlevy.aspx

bfocusd

I sent mine in around July, then got a letter end of august saying they had no prsi details for 3 of the years and in 2010 I know for sure I'm due a refund, that's the only year they have info for, but they say I'm not owed anything.

so I got a yearly breakdown of all earnings, tax and prsi deducted, sent it in start of Sept, from my calculations 3 out of 4 years I'm owed a refund, but I haven't heard a thing from them, I rang but they said I'm being calculated by staff and not by the online system, so they can't tell me true status

Does anyone know what or who I can contact to see what's happening

MB Lacey

blue movie wrote: »

I got my refund in the post today. I was a bit unsure about it at first and it was a nice surprise this morning when i opened the post. I applied in november and a few other people i know done the same. Seems to take around 3 months and not everyone i know was entitled to a refund but luckily i was. I sent a letter quoting my pps number and asking for a review of my prsi payments from 2007-2011.

Cool, that's exactly what I did - sent letter Nov 18th to same address as yourself, but I haven't heard anything yet.
When I saw the news today I rang the number for PRSI Refunds (Tel 01-6732586), I rang twice - no reply either time - but seeing your post maybe there'll be a letter from them in the post by the end of the week.

PEACEBROTHER

What details do you put on letter ?

Name ? Address ? D.O.B ? PPS number ?

bfocusd

PEACEBROTHER wrote: »

What details do you put on letter ?

Name ? Address ? D.O.B ? PPS number ?

Phone number too, that's it really

PEACEBROTHER

bfocusd wrote: »

Phone number too, that's it really

Sorry another question is it free post ?

glasses16

Hi XII. Does this mean I can apply for a refund even if my wages were below €500 per week, my earnings for the year were about €20,000 and can one apply for a refund for years previous to 2010. Thanks

19driver83

If your earnings were under 26K for any year between 2007 & 2010 fill in the attached!

If unsure, fill it in anyway...nothing to loose!

PEACEBROTHER

19driver83 wrote: »

If your earnings were under 26K for any year between 2007 & 2010 fill in the attached!

If unsure, fill it in anyway...nothing to loose!

Cheers ,
Is it free post ?

19driver83

PEACEBROTHER wrote: »

Cheers ,
Is it free post ?

No idea....I splashed out on the price of a stamp and gained €380 for year 2007 as I only worked half the year and my total earnings were under 26K.

PEACEBROTHER

19driver83 wrote: »

No idea....I splashed out on the price of a stamp and gained €380 for year 2007 as I only worked half the year and my total earnings were under 26K.

Cheers ,
I wasnt near a shop so just threw it in hoping it was freepost,
Ill just send another one tomorrow with stamp.
Any idea what happens with Post with no stamp ?

blingrhino

Does the Prsi refund situation include self employed people who earn over €500 ?

supernova84

19driver83 wrote: »

If your earnings were under 26K for any year between 2007 & 2010 fill in the attached!

If unsure, fill it in anyway...nothing to loose!

As we are now in 2012, you can't apply for a refund for 2007, only 2008-2010 as 2007 is now outside the 4 year time limit. Read attached.

http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Topics/PRSI/Pages/refundhealthlevy.aspx

An Ri rua

relax carry on wrote: »

It's the DSP not Revenue who deal with this.

DSP is the more straightforward route, yes, but you CAN also go through Revenue. See AAM for more. Can't find the link now? But BB said that contact through Revenu CAN initiate it.

An Ri rua

supernova84 wrote: »

As we are now in 2012, you can't apply for a refund for 2007, only 2008-2010 as 2007 is now outside the 4 year time limit. Read attached.

http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Topics/PRSI/Pages/refundhealthlevy.aspx

Its a pity that RTE and also the Consumer's Association of ireland didn't run with this story pre Christmas 2011. Now a lot of people are down their 2007 entitlement. I know its not their jobs, but seeing as these refund threads are circulating a while now (from 2009 on AAM) after I've researched a bit, it feels like the DSP were approached by a reporter and told to hold off on the story til the New year. After all, it says on the DSP website that this info is an update to info it had available on the website since Nov 2011. Why not sooner and also how visible was it? Was the button where it now prominently is??

Hmmm.

I'm now looking into my Income levy claims with Revenue. The snakes .... :-D

Goldstein

Apologies for the stupid question but can't find the answer anywhere. The figures they are quoting €500/pw, 26k/year etc. - are they talking about gross or net amounts?

19driver83

Goldstein wrote: »

Apologies for the stupid question but can't find the answer anywhere. The figures they are quoting €500/pw, 26k/year etc. - are they talking about gross or net amounts?

Gross

supernova84

There's also a site that specialise in tax refunds.

http://www.redoaktaxrefunds.ie/tax-refund-calculator-ireland

They would probably get your refund quicker but they look for a commission of 12 or 18% if due a refund so it's probably best just waiting for DSP.

An Ri rua

19driver83 wrote: »

Gross

@Goldstein It clearly says 'earned'. You earned the gross amount and then you pay your taxes and other deductions from what you've earned.

An Ri rua

It says on the Irish daily mail today that of 43,000 who have applied and been processed so far, 17,000 weren't owed a thing.

That's serious time-wasting by those f**kin ejits when others have a legitimate claim. How could 17,000 people be so stupid as to not understand the terms? I could understand 5 or 10%. But 17,000 ginits ??

An Ri rua

19driver83 wrote: »

If your earnings were under 26K for any year between 2007 & 2010 fill in the attached!

If unsure, fill it in anyway...nothing to loose!

That's serious bull****. Just check the basic facts, they're not hard to understand, and don't apply for things that you clearly don't have a claim on. That would be better advice to be giving out to fellow citizens. There are people who are due THEIR money back and could do without daft timewasting by other clueless citizens.

BohsCeltic

I rang them up and they are currently only processing applications that were received in October.
They might put your request in a priority file if your nice to them.

Geuze

Note that this refers to refunds of the Health Levy.

It only applies if you earned less than 26k gross pa, and if during some weeks you earned more than 500 pw.

The Health Levy was included with PRSI on payslips, not itemised separately.

Evelynmc

If i want them to look at my contributions for the last 4 years do i just have to state my pps d.o.b and name n that, then say i would like you to review my contributions from 20XX-2011 ? Thats all i have to say? bit silly but i rang them before and this ignorant girl who answered said "Well ya have ta have a reason for wanting to claim it" lol... ugh hate those kinda ppl.. but seriously thats all i have to say and post it up to them?

Also I got payed monthly in one of my jobs, does that affect it?

valpuk

I was told about this by girls from soccer and also girls in work.
A few here in work got their refunds in Nov and they ranged from €150 - €1,000 but they sent theirs back in August maybe
I sent my end Oct / mid Nov and I have heard nothing yet but a girl that mailed it off 2 weeks before me got her refund week before Xmas so fingers crossed that they just took a break for Xmas/New Year and that mine is still there somewhere.
I phoned the line for PRSI Refund and its just an automated system saying they cannot take the call but if enquirying about the refund that it has to be made in writing.

glasses16

Following up the PRSI topic, I worked on a CE Scheme from 2007-2010, earned over €352 so paid PRSI every week, just wanted to know if I paid the Health Levy part of PRSI as I have a Medical Card. Just wondering would I be eligible for a refund, wishful thinking maybe!

An Ri rua

glasses16 wrote: »

Following up the PRSI topic, I worked on a CE Scheme from 2007-2010, earned over €352 so paid PRSI every week, just wanted to know if I paid the Health Levy part of PRSI as I have a Medical Card. Just wondering would I be eligible for a refund, wishful thinking maybe!

I don't think you earned enough to qualify for a refund, even though you have a medical card (as you need to have been earning over €500pw to be paying A1 ), but you should do a quick check using these calculators, then submit a form if it looks likely.
http://www.redoaktaxrefunds.ie/prsi-refund-calculator-ireland

take everything

Can anyone tell me if gross income (for the purpose of this health levy refund) is income before deductions for pension.
Or is it income as it appears on your P60 and P45.

Also, after retirement, is occupational pension counted as income.
I wouldn't have thought so as no PRSI comes off an occupational pension.

If anyone can answer this, i'd be very grateful.

Lush Puppy

Great advice here

So I filled out my MED 1 forms for years 2009 & 2010 about a month ago and yesterday I posted off my PRSI refund letter to the DSP. Today I received a sum of money into my bank account from The Collector General. I know its not the PRSI refund as I'd only posted that yesterday but I was wondering are MED1 refunds and PRSI refunds lumped together or is the payment I received today solely Health expenses? (I incurred an awful lot of health expense last 4 years)

Also! While I have ye
I was on a €24,000 salary for last 3 years so according to www.redoaktaxrefunds.ie I am due a PRSI refund of a minimum of €1000+ for 2010 alone, this seems a little sensationalist no?

I'm not very good with tax etc but my naive understanding is all these taxback.com's etc just seem to make you do all the collecting and correlating of info to then send it in under their supervision and consequently claim money off you as a service expense? Is it me or is that daft? You've already done the work so you may as well file it yourself no? I've claimed rent, med 1 and sent off for Prsi just by looking at what info they asked me to collect for them. Or am I being too broad?

Lastly! :P on www.redoaktaxrefunds.ie they have a prsi refund calculator and a tax refund calculator. Pardon my ignorance but whats the difference?

Many thanks!

relax carry on

Lush Puppy wrote: »

Great advice here

So I filled out my MED 1 forms for years 2009 & 2010 about a month ago and yesterday I posted off my PRSI refund letter to the DSP. Today I received a sum of money into my bank account from The Collector General. I know its not the PRSI refund as I'd only posted that yesterday but I was wondering are MED1 refunds and PRSI refunds lumped together or is the payment I received today solely Health expenses? (I incurred an awful lot of health expense last 4 years)

Also! While I have ye
I was on a €24,000 salary for last 3 years so according to www.redoaktaxrefunds.ie I am due a PRSI refund of a minimum of €1000+ for 2010 alone, this seems a little sensationalist no?

I'm not very good with tax etc but my naive understanding is all these taxback.com's etc just seem to make you do all the collecting and correlating of info to then send it in under their supervision and consequently claim money off you as a service expense? Is it me or is that daft? You've already done the work so you may as well file it yourself no? I've claimed rent, med 1 and sent off for Prsi just by looking at what info they asked me to collect for them. Or am I being too broad?

Lastly! :P on www.redoaktaxrefunds.ie they have a prsi refund calculator and a tax refund calculator. Pardon my ignorance but whats the difference?

Many thanks!

PRSI is not tax. It is dealt with by the DSP. The med 1 form you filled out was for tax relief on your health expenses from Revenue, a separate entity from the DSP. The refund paid to you by the CGs is in relation to your health expenses.

Regarding using an accountant or company like taxback or Redoak for basic PAYE tax issues, no one needs to pay for this. If you can post in an internet forum you can use Revenues free online service to manage your own PAYE claims or reviews. There are videos to show you what to do and everything is colour coded with help buttons in English.

The below links should assist you further.

http://www.revenue.ie/en/online/paye-anytime.html

http://www.revenue.ie/en/personal/faqs/how-do-i-work-out-my-tax.html

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/it/leaflets/it11.html

Can't help you with PRSI side of things unfortunately.

BohsCeltic

@Lush Puppy.
You may be due a USC refund if you earned under 26k. Your prsi refund will take at least 3 months. For the USC refund you need to ring or email your local tax office.
Have a look at this thread first though

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056530712

Lush Puppy

I'd no intention of using taxback sites, I was just inferring that they seemed to be a lazy cop out way of doing it when you can just do the research yourself and be proactive about it. Thankfully my "knowledge of posting in internet forums" has helped me do as such and claim back a substantial amount of money so far.

Thanks for the replies and links, very helpful!

relax carry on

Lush Puppy wrote: »

I'd no intention of using taxback sites, I was just inferring that they seemed to be a lazy cop out way of doing it when you can just do the research yourself and be proactive about it. Thankfully my "knowledge of posting in internet forums" has helped me do as such and claim back a substantial amount of money so far.

Thanks for the replies and links, very helpful!

Wish I could link that reply to the Revenue website. It would make life a lot easier if more people took that approach to their tax affairs.

assasins creed

so its taking them 3 months to process prsi refunds is that correct ?

bfocusd

assasins creed wrote: »

so its taking them 3 months to process prsi refunds is that correct ?

It can depend, mine was sent in about 7 months ago, they didn't have any details on me for the years I was due a refund, the years I knew I wasn't due anything they had details for.

I got all the details for each year and each company during the years, I got a letter this week to say im owed two cheques for several hundred.

Im a contractor so mine would be more work to balance compared to a person working in a single company.

Munsterlad2012

bfocusd wrote: »

assasins creed wrote: »

so its taking them 3 months to process prsi refunds is that correct ?

It can depend, mine was sent in about 7 months ago, they didn't have any details on me for the years I was due a refund, the years I knew I wasn't due anything they had details for.

I got all the details for each year and each company during the years, I got a letter this week to say im owed two cheques for several hundred.

Im a contractor so mine would be more work to balance compared to a person working in a single company.

Did anyone send in an application for refund on the 2nd week of November gone that has heard something back. I send in a letter on the 17th of November and now they will not answer their phones.

BohsCeltic

Munsterlad2012 wrote: »

Did anyone send in an application for refund on the 2nd week of November gone that has heard something back. I send in a letter on the 17th of November and now they will not answer their phones.

I sent mine around that time and have not heard nothing yet. Some friends sent it in around the same time too and they haven't heard back either.

Munsterlad2012

BohsCeltic wrote: »

Munsterlad2012 wrote: »

Did anyone send in an application for refund on the 2nd week of November gone that has heard something back. I send in a letter on the 17th of November and now they will not answer their phones.

I sent mine around that time and have not heard nothing yet. Some friends sent it in around the same time too and they haven't heard back either.

I rang them two weeks ago (when they were answering the phones) and they said they were on the first week of November applications. Surely they most be on the 2nd week.

Kamjana

I got a cheque for €780 this morning,and i sent off my letter at the end of October,so be ready to wait if you are entitled to anything.

faoile@n

Does anyone know how much was overpaid for each A1 week?

Was it €10/€20 etc?

booboo88

This is going to sound ridiculous, but I thought this only came out in january? And that it would take 3-4 weeks?

Kamjana

booboo88 wrote: »

This is going to sound ridiculous, but I thought this only came out in january? And that it would take 3-4 weeks?

It was only reported in the media in January,and its more like 3-4 months not weeks.

booboo88

Kamjana wrote: »

It was only reported in the media in January,and its more like 3-4 months not weeks.

Well feck em anyway
Im just wondering what on earth takes so long?