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Dare I mention Kirk's rise to Captain in the new film?
To expect people to watch a cadet become a Captain overnight is frankly a p1ss take.norrie rugger wrote: »Kirk was still crazy young, when he was given Enterprise in the real universe
Starfleets youngest. It's not his age though, it's how long it takes to progress through the ranks. Captain Picard, I still maintain, would not be still active by the time Ezri made Captain.
It's not believable, & thats what kills non-cannon for me. But I won't knock the book itself till I read it
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This is what kills non-cannon for me. There's no way on Earth Ezri Dax would make Captain in the time Picard is still active. She was a Junior Grade Lieutenant & had many years to go before being anywhere near command level, let alone Captain. That's if she'd make a Captain at all...she's not really command material & it seems she's just written into the book for the sake of any old character.
Also, the Borg don't exterminate, they assimilate. They'd never want to exterminate, because the only agenda they have is the acquisition of technology to enhance their race. To exterminate, would imply an emotive response.
I'll give the book a try for sure, but glaring things like that just put me off right away & I know this sounds arrogant, but when I read non-cannon I often say "That's not really great, it's like something I'd write!"
As Norrie says, and without saying anything further, there is a good reason why she progreses so rapidly. If you can forgive Mack's tendency to insert a few too many Star-Wars-eske aliens, I was very impressed at the care and dedication he layered throughout the book - some of the references could only come from someone who has spent a lot of time watching and reading about the shows - I remember thinking how all the books should be like this one. I also loved how they handled the implications for the federation following Endgame. In the ST universe, there is a before Destiny, and an after, it's that epic.Dare I mention Kirk's rise to Captain in the new film?
Yell at captain continuously about his dead mother while all the other bridge crew, officers & security just sit there; then you get his job if you make him angry. I'm picturing how this would go down if anyone tried to pull that crap with Picard.
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As Norrie says, and without saying anything further, there is a good reason why she progreses so rapidly. If you can forgive Mack's tendency to insert a few too many Star-Wars-eske aliens, I was very impressed at the care and dedication he layered throughout the book - some of the references could only come from someone who has spent a lot of time watching and reading about the shows - I remember thinking how all the books should be like this one. I also loved how they handled the implications for the federation following Endgame. In the ST universe, there is a before Destiny, and an after, it's that epic.
Ok ok you have me convinced. It better be good 'steiny! 0 -
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Cookie_Monster wrote: »Ah but they do. They only assimilate useful tech to add to their own. Otherwise they just ignore you until you become a threat and then wipe you out.
A fair point my good sir, but are the Federation any threat to the mighty Borg? Not even close
I suppose that's not factoring in the events of Endgame, but the Borg Queen assimilated future Janeway, & thus to me nullifying technical advantage they may have gained. I'm sure the knowledge had spread throughout the collective before the Queen died [again!].0 -
Ok ok you have me convinced. It better be good 'steiny!
I used to read the books years ago, then started again a few years back due to being starved of any new material. I reasoned that if Nemesis is canon then I'm more than happy to read and accept the better books as otherwise there is no continuation or future adventures for the characters, it just ends. Didn't like that thought much.
Destiny has its problems (I thought he'd gotten Picard wrong but there were other significant non-canon events between Nemesis and Destiny that were pertinent with him).Voyager is jammed in too for no reason but it's more of a cameo than anything so I was ok with it.but I thought they paled in comparison to its strengths. It certainly feels like it belongs on the big screen and definitely wouldn't be suited to being an actual apisode or arc. Taken in those terms it's hard to see another ST book doing a better job.0 -
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Watched 'Distant Voices' last night, a DS9 season 3 ep.
Always loved that episode for some reason, Bashir is attacked, & ends up inside his own mind trying to repair the damage. All the different facets of his mind are made up by the other cast, & the station itself is his general health...love weird episodes like that.0 -
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Really?? :eek::D
I shall never look at aul Len the same way again
Don't call me Len ya little prick
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/father-ted/video/series-3/episode-60 -
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I think Voyager is by far the superior of all the Star Trek series! TOS lets face it apart from its simplistic feel and over acting, was a bit dry and dull (well for an 80's baby ha) and TNG was good, but Jean Luc just wasn't trigger happy enough! DS9 ok I will admit I never really bought into it, but I promise I'll start watching from start to finish tonight... Voyager was sh1t hot! Ship looked fantastic, the Cpt C Janeway wasn't afraid to pull the trigger, the background story of being lost in space in the delta quadrant years from home was classic, and lets face it lads there was some thing about B'leanna Torres!!! Yes I know 7 was there but Torres was a Klingon (yes I know half human) that you would really cling on to!!! Or have I just past the weird mark?:D
Plus <year of hell> I think it was called (a 2 parter i think) what a great episode!!!!
Where to begin...would anyone else like to go first or shall I deal with this?
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