Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

sf1994

Gudstock wrote: »

I'm also thinking of this, Glacon looks good would be great to hear about calvings.
Blondes should cross well on well made limousins. I think in the past farmers have used light boned heavy muscle breeds on cows that were too plain to carry through the quality to the calf.
Seen the odd Blonde weanling going through Gortaclea. They tend to be well made and a good trade.
Be careful with the blues though.

I’ve a heifer lm2014 x BBQ/Friesen. Our bull is a limousine (kaprico eravelle x fieldson alfy) and he’s easy calving at 4.3% on cows. But i was thinking of using glacon because he’s only around 0.9% on cows and over 5% on heifers. But you say he wouldn’t be suitable for a blue cross?

Baalbec10

Gudstock wrote: »

I might add Stonelea inzagi to your list

I can answer inzagi, serious bull. Had three calves off him this year. No issues at calving, all lively and have grown really well since. First picture pedigree calf a day old, 2nd photo the same calf at 4 week. The grey bull calf is off a limxfr cow, and the last picture of the heifer is off a charlaois cow.

Gudstock

sf1994 wrote: »

I’ve a heifer lm2014 x BBQ/Friesen. Our bull is a limousine (kaprico eravelle x fieldson alfy) and he’s easy calving at 4.3% on cows. But i was thinking of using glacon because he’s only around 0.9% on cows and over 5% on heifers. But you say he wouldn’t be suitable for a blue cross?

Just have had some tough exps with some blue cross cows and heifers and the muscle clicking in the calf. Tend to be conservative now, maybe too conservative...

Baalbec10

sf1994 wrote: »

I’ve a heifer lm2014 x BBQ/Friesen. Our bull is a limousine (kaprico eravelle x fieldson alfy) and he’s easy calving at 4.3% on cows. But i was thinking of using glacon because he’s only around 0.9% on cows and over 5% on heifers. But you say he wouldn’t be suitable for a blue cross?

The problem isn't so much a blue on a blonde cow but a blonde on blue cow. The blue cow is going to have poor calving ability while blonde cows are very good calvers as a large frame.

Gudstock

Baalbec10 wrote: »

I can answer inzagi, serious bull. Had three calves off him this year. No issues at calving, all lively and have grown really well since. First picture pedigree calf a day old, 2nd photo the same calf at 4 week. The grey bull calf is off a limxfr cow, and the last picture of the heifer is off a charlaois cow.

Top calves there!
Have you any off of red cows? What colour would they bring?

sf1994

Baalbec10 wrote: »

The problem isn't so much a blue on a blonde cow but a blonde on blue cow. The blue cow is going to have poor calving ability while blonde cows are very good calvers as a large frame.

Thats the heifer im on about giving glacon to

Baalbec10

Gudstock wrote: »

Top calves there!
Have you any off of red cows? What colour would they bring?

Blondes are not a dominant colour carier, on any black cow guaranteed grey which is not what you want for a heifer . On any other cow the cow colour will dominate. Ex a blonde on a saler cow will be red but a lighter shade than the saler dark red

Baalbec10

sf1994 wrote: »

Thats the heifer im on about giving glacon to

Very risky with her shape, asking for trouble but you could get lucky. Depends if your around to watch her calving otherwise a less shapey breed saler or shorthorn might be better for the first and flake away after that. also will more than likely bring a grey calf.

charolais0153

sf1994 wrote: »

Thats the heifer im on about giving glacon to

Give her a limo

charolais0153

sf1994 wrote: »

I’ve a heifer lm2014 x BBQ/Friesen. Our bull is a limousine (kaprico eravelle x fieldson alfy) and he’s easy calving at 4.3% on cows. But i was thinking of using glacon because he’s only around 0.9% on cows and over 5% on heifers. But you say he wouldn’t be suitable for a blue cross?

She's only 25% blue, if she's square belt away, but if she's black, gonna get an bad colour

furandfeather

Thats a blonde of a simmental heifer, picture taken during the summer, she's growing on a sight since. She's calving down February at 26 months
Shes by silverwood mark

Gudstock

sf1994 wrote: »

Thats the heifer im on about giving glacon to

Super heifer, l'm conservative - i'd go saler first and go more terminal after that.
I see Jalex herd have sheds full of that type of heifer every year for sale incalf to lims (36 month old though i think).
Earlier this year i had a blue FTY heifer off my favourite cow a blue ADX cow by x Sim x EDJ(BB) x Sim calve down to Knell at 30months. When she was AI'd, tech said she was very tight, i disregarded it as she was tall, wide, strong not too much muscle and off a great breeding cow. Had a very tight pull with a small knell heifer calf. Culled her after calf sold.

Gudstock

furandfeather wrote: »

Thats a blonde of a simmental heifer, picture taken during the summer, she's growing on a sight since. She's calving down February at 26 months
Shes by silverwood mark

Great heifer. She would cross well with any BB/CH/LM bull for whichever weanling market is in vogue.

Niallers87

Has anyone here used Creggpark Marcus, just wondering how you found him and if ye have any calves on the ground from him?

patsy_mccabe

Niallers87 wrote: »

Has anyone here used Creggpark Marcus, just wondering how you found him and if ye have any calves on the ground from him?

There are only 5 calves on the ground yet, according to the Nov 2020 ICBF proofs.
If you click under 'Evaluation History' tab and scroll down, you'll see this.

https://webapp.icbf.com/v2/app/bull-search/view/1558950166

He has a nice pedigree.

tanko

Niallers87 wrote: »

Has anyone here used Creggpark Marcus, just wondering how you found him and if ye have any calves on the ground from him?

I haven't, he's a fine looking bull, i see PG are asking if there's any calves off him on their Facebook page today. Have you used him?
Have some cows in calf to Brooklands Marco here for the spring.

Niallers87

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

There are only 5 calves on the ground yet, according to the Nov 2020 ICBF proofs.
If you click under 'Evaluation History' tab and scroll down, you'll see this.

https://webapp.icbf.com/v2/app/bull-search/view/1558950166

He has a nice pedigree.

Thanks very much for that, i have some heifers at the moment and my AI technician recommended him, so i said i would give him a go, looks like a well bred bull

Niallers87

tanko wrote: »

I haven't, he's a fine looking bull, i see PG are asking if there's any calves off him on their Facebook page today. Have you used him?
Have some cows in calf to Brooklands Marco here for the spring.

Just on a couple of heifers, the AI technician i used recommended him, so just wanted to see if anyone had used him yet!!! The heifers are 24 months old so hopefully there will be no issues calving!!!

Homer jay

Hi, was looking up lm4745 (Ernevalley Madison) on icbf and looking at his linear type scores, he has only 6% for functionality within breed, what does that mean ? I see a good few bulls show a low score for functionality.

patsy_mccabe

Homer jay wrote: »

Hi, was looking up lm4745 (Ernevalley Madison) on icbf and looking at his linear type scores, he has only 6% for functionality within breed, what does that mean ? I see a good few bulls show a low score for functionality.

Functionality has to do with the feet and walking. I have a foreman cow here and she is not great on the back legs. Foreman is the sire of Madison.
A lot of the UK bulls seem to score low for functionality.

I emailed ICBF once about hiw it was calculated but they wouldn't tell me. They said to try and keep the feet scores in the middle, not too plus or not too minus. Locomotion should be as high as possible.
All the great bulls in AI over the years all had good functionality so it is important. Nothing worst than looking at poor legs on an animal. They won't last and tend to get lame.

dodo mommy

Has anyone any calves off brooklands marco lm5443 on the ground. I have a ped lm cow for ai in the morning and was thinking of using him?

tanko

There's only 16 calves recorded on ICBF off him yet, will have a few here in April hopefully. He should be a decent bull.

patsy_mccabe

dodo mommy wrote: »

Has anyone any calves off brooklands marco lm5443 on the ground. I have a ped lm cow for ai in the morning and was thinking of using him?

3 generations of milk and fertility in his breeding. Should breed good replacements.

rushvalley

dodo mommy wrote: »

Has anyone any calves off brooklands marco lm5443 on the ground. I have a ped lm cow for ai in the morning and was thinking of using him?

Have a QCD cow due to him in 3 weeks hoping for a heifer

Homer jay

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Functionality has to do with the feet and walking. I have a foreman cow here and she is not great on the back legs. Foreman is the sire of Madison.
A lot of the UK bulls seem to score low for functionality.

I emailed ICBF once about hiw it was calculated but they wouldn't tell me. They said to try and keep the feet scores in the middle, not too plus or not too minus. Locomotion should be as high as possible.
All the great bulls in AI over the years all had good functionality so it is important. Nothing worst than looking at poor legs on an animal. They won't last and tend to get lame.

Thanks for that info Patsy, as you say nothing worse than bad legs and cows with bad stance. 👍

DukeCaboom

Don't care what people think about these cattle been too well fed, muscley etc etc.
This is seriously well put together.
Its the Jalex catalogue for his incalf heifer sale, some amount of info, pictures & videos.

https://www.jalexlivestock.com/jalex-select-2nd-january

Anto_Meath

He must be doing something right as he is at it a few years now & never seems to have any issue selling them.

furandfeather

Some lineup of heifers. I love them blue/grey cows
In fairness there not too extreme, there isn't to many of them i wouldn't fancy calving

charolais0153

DukeCaboom wrote: »

Don't care what people think about these cattle been too well fed, muscley etc etc.
This is seriously well put together.
Its the Jalex catalogue for his incalf heifer sale, some amount of info, pictures & videos.

https://www.jalexlivestock.com/jalex-select-2nd-january

He has some spot, will be savage prices, serious animals

DukeCaboom

charolais0153 wrote: »

He has some spot, will be savage prices, serious animals

His snap chat is deadly. Gas seen where all the heifers were bred. Poor old Cork has no representative!!