Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

adne

I dont use Dovea but RYP looks like a good bull on paper. Has any one any experiences???

Min

adne wrote: »

I dont use Dovea but RYP looks like a good bull on paper. Has any one any experiences???

Yes, nice cattle, no complaints here, easy calving.

mossfort

adne wrote: »

I dont use Dovea but RYP looks like a good bull on paper. Has any one any experiences???

the bull is dead and straws cant be got any more .
he was a nice easy calving bull but bbq is a good alternative.

pakalasa

NCBC 2011 / 2012 Beef Catalogue now up on their site;

http://www.progressivegenetics.ie/testsite/beefdata/beeffeature.php


Munster AI also have a new site;
http://munsterai.ie/home.php

5live

pakalasa wrote: »

NCBC 2011 / 2012 Beef Catalogue now up on their site;

http://www.progressivegenetics.ie/testsite/beefdata/beeffeature.php


Munster AI also have a new site;
http://munsterai.ie/home.php

Thanks pakalasa. I just love farmer porn;)

Bodacious

Is it just me or is the munster Ai site still playing up, under construction etc ?!

pakalasa

5live wrote: »

Thanks pakalasa. I just love farmer porn;)

I have some collection myself. I have them going back years.

Bodacious - The Munster site is new. None of the links are working on it yet.

Bizzum

pakalasa wrote: »

I have some collection myself. I have them going back years.

Christ.......I had too until recently enough! About 20 years worth of them.

5live

Bizzum wrote: »

Christ.......I had too until recently enough! About 20 years worth of them.

Hidden under the mattress inside playboy so the mother wouldnt find them:D

Bizzum

5live wrote: »

Hidden under the mattress inside playboy so the mother wouldnt find them:D

Don't talk to me.
It was a slippery slope.........Those dairy catalogues, packed full of well turned out females with full udders:D.
Way too much for the young aspiring suckler farmer to deal with.........

tanko

Has anyone used the limousin bull HCA? Is he a good bull to use on heifers as a replacement for fl22?

Bizzum

tanko wrote: »

Has anyone used the limousin bull HCA? Is he a good bull to use on heifers as a replacement for fl22?

On paper, OZS looks a better bet.

BelgianBlue13

Any advice on progressive genetics bulls,i have some shapey cows but i want a show calf out of them ,so what bull does the job?

bogman_bass

what breed do you want? What breed are the cows? Are you DIY or use a technician?

BelgianBlue13

bogman_bass wrote: »

what breed do you want? What breed are the cows? Are you DIY or use a technician?

I would use,charolais,belgian blue,limousin and blonde.
My Cows are charolais.Their are plain ones and shapey ones.
Use a technician.

Bizzum

I suppose it's fair to say that a lot of show calves have BB in them.
So maybe chance a BB on some of your cows. OVO and BYU bred some great stock, but I'm not sure are they still available?
But I know someone on here will know;)

Pat the lad

has anyone used the bb bull imperial???

bogman_bass

Bizzum wrote: »

I suppose it's fair to say that a lot of show calves have BB in them.
So maybe chance a BB on some of your cows. OVO and BYU bred some great stock, but I'm not sure are they still available?
But I know someone on here will know;)

I dont think that guys around but heres my two cents......
A MVO won recently in carrigallon.
PXT is making very muscly KIB type calves
you wont get ovo or byu but if you are willing to buy staws in advance you'll get JOK or NOV.
Canadian club might get you a show calf or a very middling one. when they're good they're very good but very inconsistant.
BCZ I think will be the next OVO. Hes by empire out of a BYU cow
If you want to go the blond route then s1107 (ark diego) is probably the best bet.
If you fancy something different there is VUL in the parthenaise line and CBQ too. Saw some great pedigree calves by him.

In Limos by all acounts NHL is the business. FL25 will give you pure muscle as will Uskudar or rockstar

I havent taken ease of calving into account at all so be warned!

Chances are, your technician wont have them so make sure you order in time if you plan on using them

Bizzum

Pat the lad wrote: »

has anyone used the bb bull imperial???

Who is he with?

limo_100

dep is suppose to be leaving great calves behind from plain cows and cottage if you can get him great calves from plain cows. mogador is a class act. seen a serious mvo calf at at neighbours some muscle. rosemount cash suppose to be a great bull first calves were suppose class as were adx just my input

wexf0rd

Bizzum wrote: »

Who is he with?

He is with dovea. Seen some great calves. very stylish. Bad heads though.

Bizzum

wexf0rd wrote: »

He is with dovea. Seen some great calves. very stylish. Bad heads though.

Thanks. I see him there now. He aint cheap, how much is he per straw do you know?

wexf0rd

Bizzum wrote: »

Thanks. I see him there now. He aint cheap, how much is he per straw do you know?

25 i think. cantona is thrownin great calves aswell. He is cheap at the moment, 15 euro. He's an empire. He is one of the top selling bulls in belgium at the moment

Pat the lad

25 i think. cantona is thrownin great calves aswell. He is cheap at the moment, 15 euro. He's an empire. He is one of the top selling bulls in belgium at the moment[/Quote]


just see he is 35 yoyo's on icbf. I'll not pay that for him. would like to try him on a few mature cows.
probably go with stq ( hear good reports). like the look of cantons too

Bizzum

wexf0rd wrote: »

25 i think. cantona is thrownin great calves aswell. He is cheap at the moment, 15 euro. He's an empire. He is one of the top selling bulls in belgium at the moment

Suppose you'll be telling us he has a "Super first crop of calves" next:D

bogman_bass

limo_100 wrote: »

dep is suppose to be leaving great calves behind from plain cows and cottage if you can get him great calves from plain cows. mogador is a class act. seen a serious mvo calf at at neighbours some muscle. rosemount cash suppose to be a great bull first calves were suppose class as were adx just my input

DEP will give you size and heigth that blues normally lack. Cottage devon is hit and miss and to be honest I rather have my cows intact.
Mogador is a great old bull. Safe bet.
unless there was calves from natural service RWS calves shouldnt be on the ground yet.

limo_100

bogman_bass wrote: »

DEP will give you size and heigth that blues normally lack. Cottage devon is hit and miss and to be honest I rather have my cows intact.
Mogador is a great old bull. Safe bet.
unless there was calves from natural service RWS calves shouldnt be on the ground yet.

it said it in the journal one week that they were classy

bogman_bass

he must have bulled cows on the home farm then

limo_100

bogman_bass wrote: »

he must have bulled cows on the home farm then

it says it in the new book that they were good quality. anybody no which of the new charolis we should use lgl and the likes anyone av calves from them??

Pat the lad

have some calves after bb bull GAU this year, out of sim cows. very happywith them. came dark blue or black,but have excellant shape and showing good muscle and popped out themselves

1chippy

up to recently we have been using a stock bull (4 star limo).
We decided to ai any cows that come in heat early in the shed. Question is what EASY CALVING SIRES would you recommend to go on mainly a herd of limx sim cows most have reasonably good muscle. Prob go with dovea genetics they seem to have the best selection. Also does anyone have a number for their agent in northeeast region. Please remember its for the weanling trade.

bogman_bass

Pat mccullen is the guy you want. 0879062041
bzb is suposidly easy calving. new proof run in 2 weeks or so if you can wait till then to find out if his calving figures hold up

BaronVon

SFL, belgian blue bull is very easy calved. Speaking from experience as i have calved heifers off him with no trouble. He is available from BOVA AI.

1chippy

cheers for that. Out of curiousity has anyone used bbq and what sort of results.

Dhousehold

I have a big black (plain Limousin Cow - no muscle) in calf to DEP, will she calf of will it be a C-Section. I also have a small BB ex Fresian Cow in calf to IDB and a mussly black Limousin in calf to IDB. Will they calf or will it be a C-Section. I have a PB Charalois in calf to STQ and a BB ex Fresian in calf of GIGA. Cows are on a diet of hay for 6 weeks and Pre-Calving licks, due from now on. Any advice on using the above named bulls would be very helpfull.

limo_100

Dhousehold wrote: »

I have a big black (plain Limousin Cow - no muscle) in calf to DEP, will she calf of will it be a C-Section. I also have a small BB ex Fresian Cow in calf to IDB and a mussly black Limousin in calf to IDB. Will they calf or will it be a C-Section. I have a PB Charalois in calf to STQ and a BB ex Fresian in calf of GIGA. Cows are on a diet of hay for 6 weeks and Pre-Calving licks, due from now on. Any advice on using the above named bulls would be very helpfull.

i dont see why. we have a bluey black kind if a cow in calf to dep shes gona calf in the next day or two ill let you know how she goes. i used a few more dep calves as ai man said he brings great calves

Bizzum

Dhousehold wrote: »

I have a big black (plain Limousin Cow - no muscle) in calf to DEP, will she calf of will it be a C-Section. I also have a small BB ex Fresian Cow in calf to IDB and a mussly black Limousin in calf to IDB. Will they calf or will it be a C-Section. I have a PB Charalois in calf to STQ and a BB ex Fresian in calf of GIGA. Cows are on a diet of hay for 6 weeks and Pre-Calving licks, due from now on. Any advice on using the above named bulls would be very helpfull.

The only concern I would have is the BB crossed on the BBX. To my mind it's risky. Otherwise I wouldn't worry about the Lim or even the CH heifer.
Over the years I've seen cows that I'd be worried about just get on with it and calve. No point in worrying about it now!

leg wax

Dhousehold wrote: »

I have a big black (plain Limousin Cow - no muscle) in calf to DEP, will she calf of will it be a C-Section. I also have a small BB ex Fresian Cow in calf to IDB and a mussly black Limousin in calf to IDB. Will they calf or will it be a C-Section. I have a PB Charalois in calf to STQ and a BB ex Fresian in calf of GIGA. Cows are on a diet of hay for 6 weeks and Pre-Calving licks, due from now on. Any advice on using the above named bulls would be very helpfull.

you have no worry with any,the bbx fre in calf to giga is the one to watch as has been said already bbx bb can be trouble but giga is not doing the business and his straws are been given away now for 12 euro .i have 3 gigas only 1 anygood and he is not great.

Dhousehold

byu is the bull to produce show calfs. nothing beats a good ch in the show ring.I like the look of cottage devon and lgl

Dhousehold

i have bones slackening slightly in cows 2 weeks before their time,does this mean there carrying a big calf.

limo_100

Dhousehold wrote: »

i have bones going in cows 2 weeks before their time what does this mean?

explain i dont no wat you mean by that

limo_100

Dhousehold wrote: »

byu is the bull to produce show calfs. nothing beats a good ch in the show ring.I like the look of cottage devon and lgl

have some cottage calves there very good especially from plain cows. there great thick calves. have not used lgl yet but i intend to id say hes similar to kib

Dhousehold

I use byu and dep for show calves.I am going to use kce the blonde on a few cows this year.I had a extremely musculy calf off him last year.I am also going to use adx he has great bloodlines (vivaldixideal23).I heard his producing very stylish cattle.I am definetely going to use cottage devon lgl mdo and lanzac on a few mature cows.

limo_100

Dhousehold wrote: »

I use byu and dep for show calves.I am going to use kce the blonde on a few cows this year.I had a extremely musculy calf off him last year.I am also going to use adx he has great bloodlines (vivaldixideal23).I heard his producing very stylish cattle.I am definetely going to use cottage devon lgl mdo and lanzac on a few mature cows.

i have used all them charolais mdo is one of the best av used adx aswel but won't any calves from him till next spring. adx would be a good bull to use on blue cows

Dhousehold

what bulls do u use for springers

bogman_bass

limo_100 wrote: »

. have not used lgl yet but i intend to id say hes similar to kib

He aint

limo_100

bogman_bass wrote: »

He aint

and how do you no that

Bizzum

limo_100 wrote: »

and how do you no that

He has "Sources".............Simples:D

limo_100

Bizzum wrote: »

He has "Sources".............Simples:D

sure we could all say that;) but ncbc are not stupid either they bought him for a reason

Bizzum

limo_100 wrote: »

sure we could all say that

The important thing about the internet is knowing what and who to believe. Some things you can take with a grain of salt................It's the other golden nuggets ya need to look for.
So..........Know your "Sources":)

limo_100

Bizzum wrote: »

The important thing about the internet is knowing what and who to believe. Some things you can take with a grain of salt................It's the other golden nuggets ya need to look for.
So..........Know your "Sources":)

suppose its hard to to believe anyone anymore i mean just look at the goverment:D but i just looked up lgl on the icbf website and its says he has no calves on the ground yet so how could anyone no until there someting on the ground....
and also jus compared him to kib and the stats are very similar..