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Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

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    #3242
    adne
    Registered Users Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭adne


    Has anyone kept lzf heifers for cows. I am puzzled why he a 5 star maternal bull given he figures say he is poor for milk with ch


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    #3243
    High bike
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    adne wrote: »
    Has


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    #3244
    adne
    Registered Users Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭adne


    High bike wrote: »
    adne wrote: »
    Has

    ???


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    #3245
    High bike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭High bike


    adne wrote: »
    High bike wrote: »

    ???
    sorry misread ur post thought it was lzr sales bull u were talking about


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    #3246
    sonnybill
    Registered Users Posts: 960 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    Ch4252 caves land Levi? Anyone have calves out of him and what is the quality like?


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    #3247
    Baalbec10
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Baalbec10


    What ye reckon guys? Have been using predominantly saler and sim the last 3 years so will be all 5 star cows by next spring. Getting to use more terminal bulls for the spring and with finishing in mind have decided on heracles for my mature cows, Ivor for 1st and 2nd calvers, bivouac for my maternal cows, and a mix of Ivor and knottown roy for the heifers to balance out the beef traits. Any advice would be welcomed as the list will change a handful of times over the winter.


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    #3248
    Pidae.m
    Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    Baalbec10 wrote: »
    What ye reckon guys? Have been using predominantly saler and sim the last 3 years so will be all 5 star cows by next spring. Getting to use more terminal bulls for the spring and with finishing in mind have decided on heracles for my mature cows, Ivor for 1st and 2nd calvers, bivouac for my maternal cows, and a mix of Ivor and knottown roy for the heifers to balance out the beef traits. Any advice would be welcomed as the list will change a handful of times over the winter.

    What sims straws did u use the last few years. Bought a shot today dickens, haribo, sunnyboy and a few escalop.... But I might throw them in the bin incase I use them 15.5% cd


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    #3249
    High bike
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    Pidae.m wrote: »
    What sims straws did u use the last few years. Bought a shot today dickens, haribo, sunnyboy and a few escalop.... But I might throw them in the bin incase I use them 15.5% cd
    15% cd jaysus I hope ur good with a calving jack.Anyone any Goldie’s Jackpot calves yet 8.8 % cd?.


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    #3250
    Pidae.m
    Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    High bike wrote: »
    15% cd jaysus I hope ur good with a calving jack.Anyone any Goldie’s Jackpot calves yet 8.8 % cd?.

    I've a neighbour who is gifted!!


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    #3251
    High bike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭High bike


    Pidae.m wrote: »
    I've a neighbour who is gifted!!
    Fair play I’d be afraid to chance it anyway


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    #3252
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,739 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    At 15% calving difficulty, they should be giving out free rosary beads with the straws.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3253
    High bike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭High bike


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    At 15% calving difficulty, they should be giving out free rosary beads with the straws.
    did you try jackpot patsy or hear anything about his calves?


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    #3254
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,739 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    High bike wrote: »
    did you try jackpot patsy or hear anything about his calves?

    No, slow to go any higher than 7%, to be honest. I've asked the AI guy about jackpot. but he hadn't seen too many from him to give an opinion.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3255
    High bike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭High bike


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    No, slow to go any higher than 7%, to be honest. I've asked the AI guy about jackpot. but he hadn't seen too many from him to give an opinion.
    im tempted,he looks a proper bull with breeding and figures


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    #3256
    Pidae.m
    Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    At 15% calving difficulty, they should be giving out free rosary beads with the straws.

    Ah jaysus. Delboy is his brother and he is 10%


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    #3257
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,739 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    High bike wrote: »
    im tempted,he looks a proper bull with breeding and figures

    Ya, I've thought about it too. Foreman his sire. might be a safer bet, but €80 a straw plus ai visit on top of that.
    https://www.semenstore.ie/limousin/products/ampertaine-foreman.html

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3258
    Pidae.m
    Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    Pidae.m wrote: »
    Ah jaysus. Delboy is his brother and he is 10%

    While I have you patsy. Your preferred maternal lm bull for cows and your preferred lm bull for heifers?


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    #3259
    High bike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭High bike


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Ya, I've thought about it too. Foreman his sire. might be a safer bet, but €80 a straw plus ai visit on top of that.
    https://www.semenstore.ie/limousin/products/ampertaine-foreman.html
    pricey all right how much are the jackpot straws?


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    #3260
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,739 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    High bike wrote: »
    pricey all right how much are the jackpot straws?

    €55 plus ai cost.
    https://www.progressivegenetics.ie/Store/Detail/GOLDIES-JACKPOT

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3261
    High bike
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    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    €55 plus ai cost.
    https://www.progressivegenetics.ie/Store/Detail/GOLDIES-JACKPOT
    they could be got through Munster so if pg have em


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    #3262
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,739 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    High bike wrote: »
    they could be got through Munster so if pg have em

    Ya, foreman would be a safer bet till more is known about Goldies Jackpot, I'd say.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3263
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users Posts: 10,739 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Pidae.m wrote: »
    While I have you patsy. Your preferred maternal lm bull for cows and your preferred lm bull for heifers?

    Bavardage (AGB) seems a great bull for maternal, but he brings a lot of size and he aint cheap. ZAG or EBY seem to be good for heifers. I've used ZAG but not EBY. Saw some good EBY bulls though.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #3264
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,238 ✭✭✭tanko


    Pidae.m wrote: »
    What sims straws did u use the last few years. Bought a shot today dickens, haribo, sunnyboy and a few escalop.... But I might throw them in the bin incase I use them 15.5% cd

    How much were the Sunnyboy straws?


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    #3265
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,826 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Bavardage (AGB) seems a great bull for maternal, but he brings a lot of size and he aint cheap. ZAG or EBY seem to be good for heifers. I've used ZAG but not EBY. Saw some good EBY bulls though.

    Haven’t been impressed by ZAG but I really like EBY


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    #3266
    Pidae.m
    Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    tanko wrote: »
    How much were the Sunnyboy straws?

    20 notes each.
    I bought 20 straws for mostly 10euro so I said 5 more at 20 euro ain't going to break me, although I'll bin the 4 escalop straws ;)


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    #3267
    Pidae.m
    Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    squinn2912 wrote: »
    Haven’t been impressed by ZAG but I really like EBY

    I think someone back along here said lm2014 was a good a alternative to ZAG


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    #3268
    pure breed
    Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭pure breed


    Pidae.m wrote:
    I think someone back along here said lm2014 was a good a alternative to ZAG


    We've been using LM2117 Tomchoice Imperial last couple yrs on heifers and although his calving difficultly is high 8 or 9 % the heifers mostly CHX and LMX have no bother calving them and leave a nice Weanling either bull or heifer compared to the butty Zag. His a short gestation too.


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    #3269
    High bike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭High bike


    What age are the heifers calving at,30 Mrs?


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    #3270
    pure breed
    Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭pure breed


    High bike wrote:
    What age are the heifers calving at,30 Mrs?

    Calving approx 26 - 30 months about used on over last couple yrs


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    #3271
    adne
    Registered Users Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭adne


    Any recommendations lm or ch relatively easy calving for a lm muscly 2nd calver. Most lm bulls seem to be lacking in skeleton figures


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